Doc Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's about as funny of a conspiracy theory as Seth Rich being the one who gave Julian Assange the hacked emails! Mueller comments on that lie right in the report. Now who was spreading that lie on here? Hmmmmm..... Mueller's report actually directly contradicts many lies that have been spread by certain individuals on this board. LOL. Love it. Read the report! Not Russian generated propaganda! Read the Report! But not nearly as funny as the conspiracy theory that there was collusion with the Russian government. By the Trump campaign, that is. 1
Tiberius Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: But not nearly as funny as the conspiracy theory that there was collusion with the Russian government. By the Trump campaign, that is. But you do admit Russia helped Trump win, right? Rudy Giuliani says there's "nothing wrong" with taking info from Russia CBS News I mean they are admitting it Just now, Doc said: They did? How? I already told you, you just going to play dumb? Have you read the report? 1 minute ago, Doc said: They did? How? Hacking
row_33 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Doc said: But not nearly as funny as the conspiracy theory that there was collusion with the Russian government. By the Trump campaign, that is. what's America without politicians screaming the other side is a truckle for the big Russian threat? since 1917 and continuing to 2217 probables
row_33 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Nice try, though. did you expect anything else?
Doc Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: what's America without politicians screaming the other side is a truckle for the big Russian threat? since 1917 and continuing to 2217 probables Except in 2012. Just now, row_33 said: did you expect anything else? Nope. Just bored and like stringing him along.
Tiberius Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: The report said nothing of the sort. So you have not read it, ok And we shall see right here in this thread it said that and lots more! 1 minute ago, Doc said: Nope. Just bored and like stringing him along. Bored? You should read the report then! Don't be afraid of the truth
Doc Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: So you have not read it, ok And we shall see right here in this thread it said that and lots more! You may have read it, but you obviously didn't understand it. But I realize that that's the new lib talking point. 1
row_33 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 i read reports of this nature for good $$$, there's not a hope i care at all to bother reading one for free and as if these bozos could read it and grasp the nuances and reality of a report of this nature.//
Tiberius Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 59 minutes ago, Doc said: You may have read it, but you obviously didn't understand it. But I realize that that's the new lib talking point. How am I suppose to interpret that "Russia interfered in the 2016 election is a systematic and sweeping fashion" to help Trump? LOl, you are proving the old point that the truth has a liberal bias. Thanks! Take off the partisan blinders for once. Stop being a coward and start being a patriot! Don't you believe in the republican system of government?
Boatdrinks Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: They hacked the DNC's entire computer system. You do understand why people, organizations, etc. have passwords, right? Well, Russia gave Trump every last piece of information the Dems had and he used it. Information is one of the most important things we humans have. That's why we have pass words. Through Russian criminality Trump got Hillary's playbook, secrets, internal polling, strategies, etc. Heck, I bet you are angry Dems want to see Trump's taxes, right? Not many people are saying it yet, but this was a stolen election. And not just because of what I have posted today. Have you read the report? Haven’t yet read it. Read the varying “ interpretations” but that’s about it. Your terms , “ playbook, secrets, strategies..” are meaningless jargon. These two candidates could not have been more different from one another. You act as though winning an election is some deep mystery, shrouded in secrecy , to be won in a way that isn’t understood by the common man. Polling is widely available and what is the value of internal polling ? There is so much media coverage preceding an election that very little is truly “ unknown “. Isn’t an election won or lost on “ the issues” ? While I understand the need for passwords, are they the key to winning the Presidency. Personally, I don’t care about Trumps taxes and neither did many others. Many “ secrets” came out about the Donald, and he still won.
Doc Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: How am I suppose to interpret that "Russia interfered in the 2016 election is a systematic and sweeping fashion" to help Trump? LOl, you are proving the old point that the truth has a liberal bias. Thanks! Take off the partisan blinders for once. Stop being a coward and start being a patriot! Don't you believe in the republican system of government? How? By realizing “interfering” doesn’t mean they changed a single person’s vote. Hilly was just a bad candidate. Accept it and move on. Edited April 22, 2019 by Doc 1
Tiberius Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Haven’t yet read it. Read the varying “ interpretations” but that’s about it. Your terms , “ playbook, secrets, strategies..” are meaningless jargon. These two candidates could not have been more different from one another. You act as though winning an election is some deep mystery, shrouded in secrecy , to be won in a way that isn’t understood by the common man. Polling is widely available and what is the value of internal polling ? There is so much media coverage preceding an election that very little is truly “ unknown “. Isn’t an election won or lost on “ the issues” ? While I understand the need for passwords, are they the key to winning the Presidency. Personally, I don’t care about Trumps taxes and neither did many others. Many “ secrets” came out about the Donald, and he still won. You are just being willfully blind. You are being silly. Of course spying and weaponizing stolen information is important to an election campaign. You can't excuse Trumps secrets and then say privacy for a political campaign doesn't matter. Oh wait, you literally are saying that! Seriously! ---- House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) clobbers Trump: “The obstruction of justice in particular in this case is far worse than anything that Richard Nixon did. … I would say in every way this is more significant than Watergate. And the fact that a candidate for president and now president of the United States would not only not stand up and resist Russian interference in our election but would welcome it goes well beyond anything Nixon did.” Yup.
row_33 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Doc said: How? By realizing “interfering” doesn’t mean they changed a single person’s vote. Hilly was just a bad candidate. Accept it and move on. they lost and they won't change their diapers for the next 6 years they are swallowing poison in their resentment and hoping you die from it best comedy as we await another Curb season, maybe from their palliative beds
Tiberius Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 10 hours ago, Doc said: How? By realizing “interfering” doesn’t mean they changed a single person’s vote. Hilly was just a bad candidate. Accept it and move on. Hilly was a terrible candidate, but she was still illegally hacked and it took a foreign power to help Trump, perhaps, beat her. (We have not gotten to the hacked election systems yet) if if she was so bad Trump wouldn't have needed Russia's help to illegally steal all the Democrats secrets. You are turning a blind eye to a very evil act. 1
3rdnlng Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 https://www.worldtribune.com/greatest-hits-21-report-says-dnc-files-were-copied-not-hacked-5-days-before-murder-of-seth-rich/ Key findings in the report by the IT specialist known as The Forensicator: On 7/5/2016 at approximately 6:45 PM Eastern time, someone copied the data that eventually appears on the “NGP VAN” 7zip file (the subject of this analysis). This 7zip file was published by a persona named Guccifer 2, two months later on September 13, 2016. Due to the estimated speed of transfer (23 MB/s) calculated in this study, it is unlikely that this initial data transfer could have been done remotely over the Internet. The initial copying activity was likely done from a computer system that had direct access to the data. “Direct access” means that the individual who was collecting the data either had physical access to the computer where the data was stored, or the data was copied over a local high speed network (LAN). This initial copying activity was done on a system where Eastern Daylight Time (EDT) settings were in force. Most likely, the computer used to initially copy the data was located somewhere on the East Coast. The data was likely initially copied to a computer running Linux, because the file last modified times all reflect the apparent time of the copy and this is a characteristic of the Linux ‘cp’ command (using default options). A Linux OS may have been booted from a USB flash drive and the data may have been copied back to the same flash drive, which will likely have been formatted with the Linux (ext4) file system. Analysts believe the most important aspect in The Forensicator’s report is the “estimated speed of transfer (23 MB/s)” at which the documents were copied. Analysts say it’s “inconceivable” the DNC documents could have been copied at such speed from a remote location. Disobedient Media noted that “The Forensicator concluded that the chance that the files had been accessed and downloaded remotely over the Internet were too small to give this idea any serious consideration. He explained that the calculated transfer speeds for the initial copy were much faster than can be supported by an Internet connection. “This is extremely significant and completely discredits allegations of Russian hacking 1
RochesterRob Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Hilly was a terrible candidate, but she was still illegally hacked and it took a foreign power to help Trump, perhaps, beat her. (We have not gotten to the hacked election systems yet) if if she was so bad Trump wouldn't have needed Russia's help to illegally steal all the Democrats secrets. You are turning a blind eye to a very evil act. Hacked election systems? The Democrats do not want any light shined there.
Tiberius Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: https://www.worldtribune.com/greatest-hits-21-report-says-dnc-files-were-copied-not-hacked-5-days-before-murder-of-seth-rich/ Key findings in the report by the IT specialist known as The Forensicator: On 7/5/2016 at approximately 6:45 PM Eastern time, someone copied the data that eventually appears on the “NGP VAN” 7zip file (the subject of this analysis). This 7zip file was published by a persona named Guccifer 2, two months later on September 13, 2016. Due to the estimated speed of transfer (23 MB/s) calculated in this study, it is unlikely that this initial data transfer could have been done remotely over the Internet. The initial copying activity was likely done from a computer system that had direct access to the data. “Direct access” means that the individual who was collecting the data either had physical access to the computer where the data was stored, or the data was copied over a local high speed network (LAN). This initial copying activity was done on a system where Eastern Daylight Time (EDT) settings were in force. Most likely, the computer used to initially copy the data was located somewhere on the East Coast. The data was likely initially copied to a computer running Linux, because the file last modified times all reflect the apparent time of the copy and this is a characteristic of the Linux ‘cp’ command (using default options). A Linux OS may have been booted from a USB flash drive and the data may have been copied back to the same flash drive, which will likely have been formatted with the Linux (ext4) file system. Analysts believe the most important aspect in The Forensicator’s report is the “estimated speed of transfer (23 MB/s)” at which the documents were copied. Analysts say it’s “inconceivable” the DNC documents could have been copied at such speed from a remote location. Disobedient Media noted that “The Forensicator concluded that the chance that the files had been accessed and downloaded remotely over the Internet were too small to give this idea any serious consideration. He explained that the calculated transfer speeds for the initial copy were much faster than can be supported by an Internet connection. “This is extremely significant and completely discredits allegations of Russian hacking ? Ya, they just fell out of the sky, these documents did! Which crackerjack box did the Forensicator get his credentials out of? The Seth Rich conspiracy garbage lives on I see. Well, I guess we see Trump was lying about the report saying No Collusion, lol. Back to attack the report with loony garbage. https://www.denverpost.com/2019/04/21/rudy-giuliani-trump-camp-russia/ Quote WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani insisted Sunday there was “nothing wrong” with the president’s 2016 campaign taking information from the Russians, as House Democrats pledged stepped-up investigations into campaign misconduct and possible crimes of obstruction detailed in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report. Giuliani called the Trump campaign’s effort to get political help from representatives of the Russian government possibly ill-advised but not illegal. Nothing wrong?!?!?!?
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