Kemp Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: You are just another deranged leftie desiring to keep a false narrative alive for political reasons. Your "points" have been debunked here time and time again and you are boring. If you're bored by me you are free to ignore me. Yeah, I'm the sole person here who is politically motivated. 42 minutes ago, Koko78 said: So a platform that may or may not have been meaningfully changed may or may not have been changed at the behest of Trump people who may or may not have been involved? You can't read and process? George Stephanopoulos: "Then why did you soften the GOP platform on Ukraine?" Trump: "I wasn't involved in that. Honestly, I was not involved." Stephanopoulos: "Your people were." Trump: "Yeah. I was not involved in that. I'd like to -- I'd have to take a look at it. But I was not involved in that." Stephanopoulos: "Do you know what they did?" Trump: "They softened it, I heard, but I was not involved."
Koko78 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kemp said: Trump: "They softened it, I heard, but I was not involved." Reading comprehension, mother!@#$er, do you have it? Edit: As a side note: Quote While the original version of the Republican Party platform is not public and unavailable Quote So did Trump and his campaign influence the change? It’s hard to know for sure, and that’s why we’re avoiding putting this question on the Truth-O-Meter. English mother!@#$er, do you read it? Edited September 17, 2018 by Koko78
boyst Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Kemp said: Since none of us have seen Mueller's findings, on what do you base your opinion that none of it relates to Trump? When the investigation of Clinton took place and all of the original accusations turned out to be false and it morphed into a perjury case about sex, did you complain about it being unjust? When a prosecutor goes after one thing, it often leads to another thing. Now you're just being obtuse to be a !@#$. Don't waste anyone's time here, your mind is made up by partisan politics. Stop playing some holier than thou bull **** that you're waiting until the last drop of milk is out. You do intelligence a disservice if you're genuine in your thinking.
Tiberius Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 19 hours ago, DC Tom said: He wrote a book on them. !@#$ off, dipshit. If I ever need assistance from the likes of you, I'll go out and buy a monkey. It was just funny seeing you two clowns arguing. How come you don't point out the absurdity of DRs rguments like that?
Kemp Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 58 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Now you're just being obtuse to be a !@#$. Don't waste anyone's time here, your mind is made up by partisan politics. Stop playing some holier than thou bull **** that you're waiting until the last drop of milk is out. You do intelligence a disservice if you're genuine in your thinking. It must be tough to live in fear of what might come out in an investigation. You are bent out of shape because I said that it's impossible to know the findings of an investigation before they are revealed. Since you are so good at knowing things before they happen, and you think it's all a waste of time, you must feel nothing bad will come out. Yet, you're scared and upset. Why? Your screaming about partisan politics is ironic. Do you really not understand that everyone, including yourself, is partisan? 9 hours ago, Koko78 said: Reading comprehension, mother!@#$er, do you have it? Edit: As a side note: English mother!@#$er, do you read it? I quoted Trump. Is he wrong or lying? There are no other options. Talk about poor reading comprehension. It's easy to rattle those who fear what might be just around the bend.
boyst Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, Kemp said: It must be tough to live in fear of what might come out in an investigation. You are bent out of shape because I said that it's impossible to know the findings of an investigation before they are revealed. Since you are so good at knowing things before they happen, and you think it's all a waste of time, you must feel nothing bad will come out. Yet, you're scared and upset. Why? Your screaming about partisan politics is ironic. Do you really not understand that everyone, including yourself, is partisan? I quoted Trump. Is he wrong or lying? There are no other options. Talk about poor reading comprehension. It's easy to rattle those who fear what might be just around the bend. You're just pathetically annoying with no rational sense.
GG Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Kemp said: Others in this thread have advocated for shutting it down. Good to hear that you're keeping an open mind. I agree, as I have already stated, that there is no indictable proof against Trump in the public sphere. The MSM is definitely against Trump, but Trump is even worse to the MSM than they are to him. Advocating for trying to change laws that would make it easier to jail journalists is the opinion of a dictator/autocrat. When Gary Hart went after the press and dared them to go after him, it ruined his career. Here's one: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/aug/04/did-trump-campaign-soften-platform-language-benefi/ Note that in the above link, Trump states that the platform was changed. There are plenty of other links out there. Look them up, if you're really interested. If the truth is so plain that Politifact journalists uncovered potential Russian collusion on August 4th, 2016 what's been stonewalling the Muller's investigative team for over a year?
Kemp Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: You're just pathetically annoying with no rational sense. I said the Republicans changed their platform at the convention in regards to Ukraine. You and your supporters claim this is a lie. When asked about it, Trump said: "They softened it, I heard, but I was not involved." Was Trump in error or lying? Is there a third possibility? You can huff and puff all you want, but you seem unable to answer the question. 2 minutes ago, GG said: If the truth is so plain that Politifact journalists uncovered potential Russian collusion on August 4th, 2016 what's been stonewalling the Muller's investigative team for over a year? It's been stonewalled? It's still going on and people keep pleading guilty. We'll find out when it's over. If you're right, Mueller and the Dems will be devoured by the truth. If you're wrong, I have a feeling a lot of the folks on your side will not accept the results. 1
GG Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kemp said: It's been stonewalled? It's still going on and people keep pleading guilty. We'll find out when it's over. If you're right, Mueller and the Dems will be devoured by the truth. If you're wrong, I have a feeling a lot of the folks on your side will not accept the results. Stonewalled by whom? How many of the guilty pleas involve activity between August 2015 and November 2016 that is related to anything resembling collusion? Which side is mine, btw?
Koko78 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Kemp said: I quoted Trump. Is he wrong or lying? There are no other options. Talk about poor reading comprehension. It's easy to rattle those who fear what might be just around the bend. Yeah, now address the rest of the article where they say it may or may not have happened, to the point they can't even score it. Is that really all you lefties have anymore? Lies and innuendo? To paraphrase B-Man: All the left has to do is be rational, and you just can't do it. 23 minutes ago, GG said: Which side is mine, btw? Considering that you haven't lost your mind and don't advocate for impeachment or resistance in at least every other post, you're clearly a Trumpster/deplorable/racist/misogynistic/Nazi.
Tiberius Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 Manafort was working with and for the Russians, no doubt about that. Trump tower meeting happened. Platform was changed Trump says he trusts Putin more than our security services \ Trump seriously wanted to bring Putin to the WH this month! Nothing to see here, nope, no siree
boyst Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 37 minutes ago, Kemp said: I said the Republicans changed their platform at the convention in regards to Ukraine. You and your supporters claim this is a lie. When asked about it, Trump said: "They softened it, I heard, but I was not involved." Was Trump in error or lying? Is there a third possibility? You can huff and puff all you want, but you seem unable to answer the question. It's been stonewalled? It's still going on and people keep pleading guilty. We'll find out when it's over. If you're right, Mueller and the Dems will be devoured by the truth. If you're wrong, I have a feeling a lot of the folks on your side will not accept the results. I said nothing baou5 the Ukraine, nothing about any of that. You don't get the right to ask me a question. You have no need nor Respect for trying to be some valorous self virtued douche. You've not made a point. Argued salient points, lies, and shaped the argument to reveal you're either the world's biggest fool of partisan ignorance destitute to ignore common sense, decency and the fibers of the government in our country, or you're just a troll.
Kemp Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 56 minutes ago, GG said: Stonewalled by whom? How many of the guilty pleas involve activity between August 2015 and November 2016 that is related to anything resembling collusion? Which side is mine, btw? I didn't bring up stonewalled, so I'm not sure what you mean. We don't know all the details of the guilty pleas, so there's no way to answer that, yet. The only one we know that fits that time frame for sure is Flynn. I assumed your side was the belief that the Mueller investigation should not be going on. Untrue? That's the position of some here who are upset with me. 43 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Yeah, now address the rest of the article where they say it may or may not have happened, to the point they can't even score it. Is that really all you lefties have anymore? Lies and innuendo? To paraphrase B-Man: All the left has to do is be rational, and you just can't do it. Considering that you haven't lost your mind and don't advocate for impeachment or resistance in at least every other post, you're clearly a Trumpster/deplorable/racist/misogynistic/Nazi. I will address anything you want after you answer if Trump was wrong or lying when he said the platform was changed.
3rdnlng Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kemp said: I didn't bring up stonewalled, so I'm not sure what you mean. We don't know all the details of the guilty pleas, so there's no way to answer that, yet. The only one we know that fits that time frame for sure is Flynn. I assumed your side was the belief that the Mueller investigation should not be going on. Untrue? That's the position of some here who are upset with me. I will address anything you want after you answer if Trump was wrong or lying when he said the platform was changed. Tell us, what did Flynn do before November of 2016 that he pled guilty to?
Kemp Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I said nothing baou5 the Ukraine, nothing about any of that. You don't get the right to ask me a question. You have no need nor Respect for trying to be some valorous self virtued douche. You've not made a point. Argued salient points, lies, and shaped the argument to reveal you're either the world's biggest fool of partisan ignorance destitute to ignore common sense, decency and the fibers of the government in our country, or you're just a troll. I don't have a right to ask you a question? You must be very important. Wouldn't it have been easier for you to just come out and say that you are unable to answer the question than write near undecipherable nonsense that somewhat resembles English?
Koko78 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Kemp said: I will address anything you want after you answer if Trump was wrong or lying when he said the platform was changed. No you won't.
Kemp Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Tell us, what did Flynn do before November of 2016 that he pled guilty to? It was December of 2016.http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/01/michael-flynn-charged-in-special-counsels-russia-investigation.html Again, we don't know what else will come out, yet. Why did Flynn lie to the FBI about Russian contacts? Would you plead guilty if you were innocent?. Of all the defendants, Flynn may turn out to be the weakest link. His ties to illegal activity involving Turkey is also a problem for him. Declaring innocence before the conclusion of an investigation makes no sense. In any case, let's see what comes out at the conclusion of the investigation.
boyst Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Kemp said: I don't have a right to ask you a question? You must be very important. Wouldn't it have been easier for you to just come out and say that you are unable to answer the question than write near undecipherable nonsense that somewhat resembles English? No. It's a lot easier to say I have not read any piece of writing you wrote since the initial post in entirety. Up until you said you asked me a question in the first sentence or two I never knew you did. Please, with all due respect and courtesy for everyone on this board: shut up.
Kemp Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Koko78 said: No you won't. 3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: No. It's a lot easier to say I have not read any piece of writing you wrote since the initial post in entirety. Up until you said you asked me a question in the first sentence or two I never knew you did. Please, with all due respect and courtesy for everyone on this board: shut up. One sometimes has no choice but to take the easy way out. See above.
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