Tiberius Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, Nanker said: That was the Campaign. Try again. What title did he have in the ADMINISTRATION? The campaign where there was Russian interference and evidence of a criminal conspiracy?
Warren Zevon Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: No. It was in context of a bet about whether or not his indictment counted against Trump, dumbass. We know from his indictment that he was ordered to have NO CONTACT with anyone on team Trump. Yet, he was a "cooperating witness" who was also more than likely wearing a wire. That's been a talking point of the left for months now, that GP is going to bring down Trump because he was wearing a wire... They leave out that he was ordered by the court not to have contact with Trump. Why? Because he's flipped - not on Trump or his team, but on someone else. Thus, his indictment - for the purposes of this bet - has nothing to do with Russian collusion or Trump in the way Tibs was trying to work it. You're TERRIBLE at this. Like I said 4 hours ago... He knows his theories are full of ****. There are more holes in them than swiss cheese. When you or anyone else addresses the holes, he only repeats his theories while changing the format to bold or capitalizing letters. The only excuse he has is if the book he claims to be writing is actually a psychological expose on the gullibility of right wing loons. NO CONTACT YOU'RE TERRIBLE WAHHHHH
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, garybusey said: Like I said 4 hours ago... NO CONTACT YOU'RE TERRIBLE WAHHHHH Are you a troll or just stupid? You'd have to be one of the two to blatantly disregard hard facts like that.
Deranged Rhino Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, garybusey said: Like I said 4 hours ago... Nah, see. I have the court filing which proves this to be true. Not a theory. I'd say you could read it for yourself but you've proven again and again you don't have the mental horsepower for anything more than monosyllabic words. https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/george-papadopoulos-charges-and-plea-deal/2253/ https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/08/secret-hearing-mueller-trump-probe-244653 Quote But the Chicago-based energy consultant was told to give up his passports (two of them) and to keep away from individuals and entities related to the charges against him. You're bad at this, Gary. Edited February 9, 2018 by Deranged Rhino added statement of offense
Tiberius Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Nah, see. I have the court filing which proves this to be true. Not a theory. I'd say you could read it for yourself but you've proven again and again you don't have the mental horsepower for anything more than monosyllabic words. https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/george-papadopoulos-charges-and-plea-deal/2253/ https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/08/secret-hearing-mueller-trump-probe-244653 You're bad at this, Gary. On page five of the indictment it says he is still cooperating with the government, and the efforts will continue until the government determines otherwise. So he was working for government 15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Nah, see. I have the court filing which proves this to be true. Not a theory. I'd say you could read it for yourself but you've proven again and again you don't have the mental horsepower for anything more than monosyllabic words. https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/george-papadopoulos-charges-and-plea-deal/2253/ https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/08/secret-hearing-mueller-trump-probe-244653 You're bad at this, Gary. From your politico article: Cramer said the arrest, the sealed hearing and the defendant's release the next day all suggest prosecutors didn't want the energy consultant's associates aware that he was in trouble with the feds and wanted to keep open the possibility of using him to try to extract damaging admissions from others. "That's pretty consistent with if you want to send him back in or use him," the ex-prosecutor said. "If you're picking someone up and want to send them back into their organization, if people know he's been arrested they're going to run away from this guy. ... It also shows you're serious. That's going to show this isn't a game."
Deranged Rhino Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: On page five of the indictment it says he is still cooperating with the government, and the efforts will continue until the government determines otherwise. So he was working for government Yes. As a cooperating witness. That, in addition to the fact he was scooped up and released without the press knowing, forms the basis for many in the MSM and on the left to presume that GP was sent back into the wild wearing a wire. You've argued as much yourself in the past. But, if you read the politico article about that secret court hearing, GP was ordered by the judge not to have any contact with anyone relating to the charges against him. The statement of offense makes clear those people are Trump, his transition team, and the White House. So... IF he was released into the wild with a wire to entrap someone, who was he going after if he wasn't allowed to go near anyone related to the charges against him? The only answer to that is someone UNRELATED to the charges against him. A guy like Pete Strzok perhaps. Or Glenn Simpson. Or someone else at Fusion GPS (where GP has connections). This is why thinking for yourself rather than blindly following the narratives being laid out by the MSM is key. We are in an information war. Nothing is as it seems, this is by design.
outsidethebox Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 I love how these peabrain liberals are constantly on the attack. Keeps them from having to defend the illegal doings of the Clintons and Obama cartel. Brilliant strategy!!! 1
Warren Zevon Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Yes. As a cooperating witness. That, in addition to the fact he was scooped up and released without the press knowing, forms the basis for many in the MSM and on the left to presume that GP was sent back into the wild wearing a wire. You've argued as much yourself in the past. But, if you read the politico article about that secret court hearing, GP was ordered by the judge not to have any contact with anyone relating to the charges against him. The statement of offense makes clear those people are Trump, his transition team, and the White House. So... IF he was released into the wild with a wire to entrap someone, who was he going after if he wasn't allowed to go near anyone related to the charges against him? The only answer to that is someone UNRELATED to the charges against him. A guy like Pete Strzok perhaps. Or Glenn Simpson. Or someone else at Fusion GPS (where GP has connections). This is why thinking for yourself rather than blindly following the narratives being laid out by the MSM is key. We are in an information war. Nothing is as it seems, this is by design. George P: "Would it be possible to know what individuals and entities..." Judge (to Prosecutor): "You'll have to give him a list" The judges order can be adjusted by the prosecutor at any time. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, garybusey said: George P: "Would it be possible to know what individuals and entities..." Judge (to Prosecutor): "You'll have to give him a list" The judges order can be adjusted by the prosecutor at any time. Quote But the Chicago-based energy consultant was told to give up his passports (two of them) and to keep away from individuals and entities related to the charges against him. You're REALLY bad at this. Moving the goalposts does nothing to change what I laid out.
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 1 minute ago, KW95 said: Tighter and tighter! Source? Evidence?
Tiberius Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: On page five of the indictment it says he is still cooperating with the government, and the efforts will continue until the government determines otherwise. So he was working for government From your politico article: Cramer said the arrest, the sealed hearing and the defendant's release the next day all suggest prosecutors didn't want the energy consultant's associates aware that he was in trouble with the feds and wanted to keep open the possibility of using him to try to extract damaging admissions from others. "That's pretty consistent with if you want to send him back in or use him," the ex-prosecutor said. "If you're picking someone up and want to send them back into their organization, if people know he's been arrested they're going to run away from this guy. ... It also shows you're serious. That's going to show this isn't a game." This went below the fold, your own article 1
Wacka Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Tiberius said: The campaign where there was Russian interference and evidence of a criminal conspiracy? Who's on first?
Deranged Rhino Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/09/rachel-brand-no-3-official-at-doj-is-stepping-down.html 1
Albwan Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/09/us/politics/us-cyberweapons-russia-trump.html The truth is starting to get horrible. 1
Nanker Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 This is the kind of **** that spies do. People have no problem with suspending their disbelief when reading a spy novel or watching a show like House of Cards or a movie like The Unforgiven, or the Jason Bourne series, but are in denial that the things that entertain them in those vehicles are very possible in real life. Double crossings, murder, dirty cops, dirty politics and politicians, payoffs, subterfuge, blackmail and the like are highly entertaining “stories”. But it does happen in real life too folks. We’re witnessing it right now. 2
row_33 Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 There is no ideology driving Russia these days when it was clearly seeking worldwide domination in the Cold War the Dems were useless toward or supportive of the expansion
Deranged Rhino Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Nanker said: This is the kind of **** that spies do. People have no problem with suspending their disbelief when reading a spy novel or watching a show like House of Cards or a movie like The Unforgiven, or the Jason Bourne series, but are in denial that the things that entertain them in those vehicles are very possible in real life. Double crossings, murder, dirty cops, dirty politics and politicians, payoffs, subterfuge, blackmail and the like are highly entertaining “stories”. But it does happen in real life too folks. We’re witnessing it right now. Yup. In relation to the NYT story, worth watching this q&a again: I just love watching Roger's facial expressions as Comey lies. I mean testifies. Especially @ the 2:44 mark when Comey answers why Congress wasn't briefed until months later about Strzok opening an FBI investigation into Russian meddling. Roger's expression there says it all...
Bob in Mich Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 Here is the NYT author Matthew Rosenberg talking about his story. It does sound messy but he disagrees with Trump's interpretation of the story. (See at the 1:50 mark) https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/02/10/nyt-report-us-spies-paid-russian-matthew-rosenberg-sot-nr.cnn
DC Tom Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Here is the NYT author Matthew Rosenberg talking about his story. It does sound messy but he disagrees with Trump's interpretation of the story. (See at the 1:50 mark) https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/02/10/nyt-report-us-spies-paid-russian-matthew-rosenberg-sot-nr.cnn Why are you still here? I thought you took your 8-ball and went home yesterday. 1
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