Tiberius Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, GG said: If that's your take-away from these discussions, then you're more stoned than we thought. Many people participating in these discussions think Trump is an idiot, but are appalled that laws were apparently broken to rig the election. There's far more EVIDENCE that people inside the government broke laws than anything that resembles collusion with the Russians. And you are claiming someone else is stoned???
3rdnlng Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Your wish to turn the conversation to when and where Russia became an enemy is immaterial to the conversation I am having. Maybe someone else wishes to follow your lead or perhaps you could just do some research on your own. Better yet, start a new thread where that is the question for discussion. In order to be able to join in the conversation you are having, what strain are you using?
DC Tom Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: And you are claiming someone else is stoned??? Wow. A third-person "I'm rubber, you're glue" retort. Great gatoring, gatorman!
row_33 Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Tibs and Bob, the brain of an egg-timer. typical....
Tiberius Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Wow. A third-person "I'm rubber, you're glue" retort. Great gatoring, gatorman! Wow, a nothing post from the board parasite. So basically all the right wingers are parroting the Fox news conspiracy that the government is out to get Trump and the Russia investigation is exactly what the biggest liar in politics calls it, a hoax. No wonder you guys MUST lie, insult and pettifog.
Bob in Mich Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, GG said: If that's your take-away from these discussions, then you're more stoned than we thought. Many people participating in these discussions think Trump is an idiot, but are appalled that laws were apparently broken to rig the election. There's far more EVIDENCE that people inside the government broke laws than anything that resembles collusion with the Russians. Why is it either a Trump-Russia investigation or a FISA warrant investigation? Investigate whatever deep state conspiracy that needs investigating. If there was wrongdoing, lock em up. Just stop with claiming that there is now no reason to continue investigating Trump's possible wrong doings.
GG Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Why is it either a Trump-Russia investigation or a FISA warrant investigation? Investigate whatever deep state conspiracy that needs investigating. If there was wrongdoing, lock em up. Just stop with claiming that there is now no reason to continue investigating Trump's possible wrong doings. Who here is saying that? The preponderance of the discussion focuses on the fact that despite over a year of Russia collusion hysteria, there hasn't been a shred of hard evidence presented or even hinted. Schiff's trolling by the Ukranian disk jockeys is a far greater transgression than anything that we've seen from the Trump camp. Mots of the complaints about Mueller's investigation is that he won't find anything about collusion, but will need to save face by finding dirt about something completely unrelated. Look up Scooter Libby & blue dress for past examples. 1
3rdnlng Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Why is it either a Trump-Russia investigation or a FISA warrant investigation? Investigate whatever deep state conspiracy that needs investigating. If there was wrongdoing, lock em up. Just stop with claiming that there is now no reason to continue investigating Trump's possible wrong doings. Who here is saying that? With what is known so far, if Mueller were to take this to a judge anything gleamed from the FISA warrant would be considered "fruit of the poisonous tree" and would be thrown out. It's getting time to either indict or close the investigation down. Either they have something or they don't.
DC Tom Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Who here is saying that? With what is known so far, if Mueller were to take this to a judge anything gleamed from the FISA warrant would be considered "fruit of the poisonous tree" and would be thrown out. It's getting time to either indict or close the investigation down. Either they have something or they don't. Depends on the judge, though. I mean, the FISA warrants got approved... 1
Tiberius Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Who here is saying that? With what is known so far, if Mueller were to take this to a judge anything gleamed from the FISA warrant would be considered "fruit of the poisonous tree" and would be thrown out. It's getting time to either indict or close the investigation down. Either they have something or they don't. Known from the partisan, cherry picked Nunes memo? Ya, ok!
3rdnlng Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: Depends on the judge, though. I mean, the FISA warrants got approved... Something tells me there might be a little more scrutiny this time.
Tiberius Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Depends on the judge, though. I mean, the FISA warrants got approved... Just now, 3rdnlng said: Hannity tells me there might be a little more scrutiny this time. Fixed that for you
Warren Zevon Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Who here is saying that? With what is known so far, if Mueller were to take this to a judge anything gleamed from the FISA warrant would be considered "fruit of the poisonous tree" and would be thrown out. It's getting time to either indict or close the investigation down. Either they have something or they don't. Both bolded things mean the investigation would end. You just literally said what you claimed you were not saying. 1
3rdnlng Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Known from the partisan, cherry picked Nunes memo? Ya, ok! Was the dossier used to get the warrant? Would they have gotten the warrant without it?
Bob in Mich Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Who here is saying that? With what is known so far, if Mueller were to take this to a judge anything gleamed from the FISA warrant would be considered "fruit of the poisonous tree" and would be thrown out. It's getting time to either indict or close the investigation down. Either they have something or they don't. For real? You are claiming no one wants to shut down the Trump investigation because of the FISA warrant claims and then do that very thing in the next sentence. Gowdy, who read the FISA warrant application, claims there would/should still be a Trump-Russia investigation in spite of the warrant problems. 1
Tiberius Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Was the dossier used to get the warrant? Would they have gotten the warrant without it? We do not know, it was a secret proceeding. Unless you are saying the judge was part of the Grand Clinton Cabal, I suppose he/she took everything into consideration
3rdnlng Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, garybusey said: Both bolded things mean the investigation would end. You just literally said what you claimed you were not saying. No you idiot, I'm saying that if they have something on him go and prosecute. If they don't have anything on him this needs to come to an end soon. The illegal FISA warrant is separate.
Warren Zevon Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: No you idiot, I'm saying that if they have something on him go and prosecute. If they don't have anything on him this needs to come to an end soon. The illegal FISA warrant is separate. What you are doing is talking in circles. A circle is a shape. It looks like this. Edited February 7, 2018 by garybusey 1
B-Man Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Hillary’s Attempt to Steele the Election by George Neumayr Original Article The media, in its frenzy to normalize left-wing political espionage, says simultaneously of the Nunes memo: there is nothing to see in it, but don’t look. The intensity of the media’s attacks on a Republican is always in proportion to the degree to which he is impeding one of its causes. The doggedness of Nunes — his refusal to let a politicized FBI and Justice Department stonewall his committee — has thrown considerable light on the real scandal of 2016: not that Trump colluded with the Russians to win but that the Obama administration colluded with Hillary to defeat him. .
row_33 Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 all activity by special services that is not performed to protect the US under extreme emergencies should be open and transparent to The People there is no national emergency to speak of since 9/11. open it up, what did The People pay for in the name of security violations?
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