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Let me ask again: was any "sacred institution" undermined other than Hillary Clinton?

 

The only thing that was undermined was the legitimacy of the incoming administration by the very people who are claiming the Russians interfered with our election process. The cognitive dissonance is reaching ludicrous levels.

 

The left want a war with Russia. Can't we just enjoy peace? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

That's the most bizarre turn over the past 18 months. The left - who spent 8 years railing against regime change wars in the desert - now are vociferously supporting hawks and regime change in not just Syria and the ME at large, but in Moscow itself. Further proving we now live in Bizarro world, the left is at the forefront of pushing McCarthyism back into politics.

 

Living in LA it's amazing to hear the same people who refused to stand and applaud Elia Kazan's Oscar because he "named names" are now leading the neo-McCarthyist movement claiming that everyone is a Putin stooge or apologist who dares say anything other than "Russia is evil". It's as if Hollywood has no sense of history... oh, wait. That's a redundant statement.

 

The left is now the party of war, the party of neo-McCarthyism, the party of totalitarianism and fascism... and they're proud of it because they just call it "resistance".

 

It's time for those on the left, and those on the right, to realize that partisan politics are theater. Designed to distract and divide. Designed to keep us fighting with one another rather than uniting as a people and taking back our republic from those who have systematically stolen it from us...

 

But that will never happen if both sides are unable to see the forest through the Russian trees.

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The only thing that was undermined was the legitimacy of the incoming administration by the very people who are claiming the Russians interfered with our election process. The cognitive dissonance is reaching ludicrous levels.

 

 

That's the most bizarre turn over the past 18 months. The left - who spent 8 years railing against regime change wars in the desert - now are vociferously supporting hawks and regime change in not just Syria and the ME at large, but in Moscow itself. Further proving we now live in Bizarro world, the left is at the forefront of pushing McCarthyism back into politics.

 

In the left's defense, they haven't had a coherent foreign policy since...Kennedy? Maybe LBJ?

 

In my lifetime, at least, it's always been like watching foreign policy generated by a pachinko machine. Four years from now, the Democrats will probably be calling for a "reset" of our Russia relations to something more cordial and less aggressive than Trump's militant anti-Russia policies.

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The election.

 

To elaborate, The U.S. Presidential election is emblematic of our "system" and this democracy... While not sacred in a religious sense, it stands alone as the gateway to the highest office in the land, and lynchpin of the three branches.

 

 

 

You need to understand that NONE of that is the same as a U.S. President (or presidential candidiate) teaming up with foreign actors in an attempt to undermine one of our most sacred institutions...

 

 

This was the statement, and it's NOT an accusation... I'm not saying they did it... What I am saying is....

 

 

 

If it's really no big deal, why not just come clean?

 

With everything.

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To elaborate, The U.S. Presidential election is emblematic of our "system" and this democracy... While not sacred in a religious sense, it stands alone as the gateway to the highest office in the land, and lynchpin of the three branches.

 

 

 

This was the statement, and it's NOT an accusation... I'm not saying they did it... What I am saying is....

 

 

 

With everything.

 

Why don't you elaborate on how it was undermined, which statement is the real crux of your idiocy.

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The election.

 

 

 

To elaborate, The U.S. Presidential election is emblematic of our "system" and this democracy... While not sacred in a religious sense, it stands alone as the gateway to the highest office in the land, and lynchpin of the three branches.

 

 

 

 

 

You need to understand that NONE of that is the same as a U.S. President (or presidential candidiate) teaming up with foreign actors in an attempt to undermine one of our most sacred institutions...

 

 

 

 

This was the statement, and it's NOT an accusation... I'm not saying they did it... What I am saying is....

 

 

 

 

 

If it's really no big deal, why not just come clean?

 

 

 

With everything.

 

Do you think this was the first time a country tried to meddle in our election? Or even the 15th?

 

 

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Do you think this was the first time a country tried to meddle in our election? Or even the 15th? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

No, but it's the first time I've ever heard of a U.S. presidential candidate publicly requesting that they do so...

 

 

 

Why don't you elaborate on how it was undermined, which statement is the real crux of your idiocy.

 

The crux of your idiocy Tom, is that you can't read basic F#*$ing English...

 

Again, Team Trump... Come clean with all the details... Stop saying you didn't meet with certain people when you DID, in fact, meet with those people. Tell the truth.... How hard is that?

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No, but it's the first time I've ever heard of a U.S. presidential candidate publicly requesting that they do so...

 

 

 

The crux of your idiocy Tom, is that you can't read basic F#*$ing English...

 

Again, Team Trump... Come clean with all the details... Stop saying you didn't meet with certain people when you DID, in fact, meet with those people. Tell the truth.... How hard is that?

 

You have yet to express anything in basic !@#$ing English. You made a simple statement - "a U.S. President (or presidential candidiate) teaming up with foreign actors in an attempt to undermine one of our most sacred institutions" - and have yet to explain what "sacred institution" you're talking about or how anyone "attempted" to "undermine" it.

 

I mean...I know you're not going to explain yourself, because you can't. You got caught up being a raving partisan lunatic, and now you're doubling down on your own stupidity and hypocrisy. It's just fun watching you twist in the wind.

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You mean the one where there wasn't a single vote changed by the Russian meddling? Where there was no "hacking"? The one where the DNC dirt which was released (which there is more evidence of it being leaked from an insider rather than hacked by an outsider) was all 100% accurate?

That's what you define as undermining?

If that's how you feel, how do you sleep knowing you live in a country that did far worse to friends and foes alike in hundreds of elections over the years? Or do you just ignore that contradiction because it doesn't matter what America does to others, only what others do to America?

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Well said and I concur 100%.

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You have yet to express anything in basic !@#$ing English. You made a simple statement - "a U.S. President (or presidential candidiate) teaming up with foreign actors in an attempt to undermine one of our most sacred institutions" - and have yet to explain what "sacred institution" you're talking about or how anyone "attempted" to "undermine" it.

 

I mean...I know you're not going to explain yourself, because you can't. You got caught up being a raving partisan lunatic, and now you're doubling down on your own stupidity and hypocrisy. It's just fun watching you twist in the wind.

 

1) That wasn't my statement.

 

2) Cutting and pasting is just one more thing you suck at.

 

3) There's nothing to explain, except why you can't demand honesty from the President of the United States...

 

4) Your posts are just proof that someone shook you REALLY hard as a baby. :lol: ...

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No, but it's the first time I've ever heard of a U.S. presidential candidate publicly requesting that they do so...

 

 

 

The crux of your idiocy Tom, is that you can't read basic F#*$ing English...

 

Again, Team Trump... Come clean with all the details... Stop saying you didn't meet with certain people when you DID, in fact, meet with those people. Tell the truth.... How hard is that?

This has been disputed and explained to you more than once. You are wrong and continue to spread this lie. What can people think other than that you are a partisan, disingenuous, lying prick?

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Again, Team Trump... Come clean with all the details... Stop saying you didn't meet with certain people when you DID, in fact, meet with those people. Tell the truth.... How hard is that?

 

If i'm understanding properly, a supporter of Hillary Clinton is asking a politician to tell the truth?

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The only thing that was undermined was the legitimacy of the incoming administration by the very people who are claiming the Russians interfered with our election process. The cognitive dissonance is reaching ludicrous levels.

 

Not 100% accurate.

 

What of Trump demanding to get his hands on Nov's Voter Registrations?

 

Why is it so important at this time? He won. Does it matter here and now? The administration has got 3 1/2 years to get a working plan in place to prevent future "voter fraud".

I'll try to not troll as long as I can have a rational discussion.

 

The blame game going on is ridiculous (on both sides)

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