Tiberius Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 no one defines hate, intolerance and ignorance better then the left The Democrats are one of the most diverse, open, inclusive and educated organizations in the country, if not the world. Trump's party, not so much
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) no one defines hate, intolerance and ignorance better then the left jesus now there is coffee all over my !@#$ing keyboard Edited July 13, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan
aristocrat Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Economy rolling along, isis getting pounded, but this Russia thing keeps hanging on. We hate good times Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Are you seriously crediting Frump for all of that? Well the first 2, the latter is all his fault. Russia if you are listening ... What is Russia's end game? Trump seems to be very good for the economy which I doubt russia wants....but maybe they do since I'm sure Russians invest their money over here. It's almost like the left wants a war with russia. Sort of opposite of the traditional right wing war hawks you hear about. Give me a reason Russia would want trump in power and not Hillary. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 What is Russia's end game? Trump seems to be very good for the economy which I doubt russia wants....but maybe they do since I'm sure Russians invest their money over here. It's almost like the left wants a war with russia. Sort of opposite of the traditional right wing war hawks you hear about. Give me a reason Russia would want trump in power and not Hillary. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Good question, what is the Russia game. My guess is that it is the same as it has been for decades. Trumps economy is 6 months old riding a high from the last administration. (Yes I know you hate to hear that but its the truth) When Donny boy actually does something great I'll cheer him on. I won't be his toady.
Tiberius Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Reasons Putin wants Trump, this is not an exhaustive list: Sanctions relief--Trump has tried and failed so far Sow discord among NATO allies, sadly, this is working Stop the promotion of western values like democracy--totally working, Trump has turned State department into a joke Putting a mole in the WH--you can judge that for yourself with intelligence, trying to share cyber security Weakening US--mission accomplished Oh, hey look, suddenly a Russian money laundering case was settled unexpectedly! Nothing to see here http://www.businessinsider.com/why-was-russian-money-laundering-case-dismissed-house-dems-2017-7
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Good question, what is the Russia game. My guess is that it is the same as it has been for decades. Trumps economy is 6 months old riding a high from the last administration. (Yes I know you hate to hear that but its the truth) When Donny boy actually does something great I'll cheer him on. I won't be his toady. A high coming off the slowest economic recovery in history?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) Reasons Putin wants Trump, this is not an exhaustive list: Sanctions relief--Trump has tried and failed so far Sow discord among NATO allies, sadly, this is working Stop the promotion of western values like democracy--totally working, Trump has turned State department into a joke Putting a mole in the WH--you can judge that for yourself with intelligence, trying to share cyber security Weakening US--mission accomplished Oh, hey look, suddenly a Russian money laundering case was settled unexpectedly! Nothing to see here http://www.businessinsider.com/why-was-russian-money-laundering-case-dismissed-house-dems-2017-7 Russia Sanctions Measure Stalled by GOP Over Energy Provisions Frustration grows over stalled Russia sanctions bill A high coming off the slowest economic recovery in history? Put the crack pipe down and step away from the table. Please. The more factual statement slowest economic recovery in history after a the depression we faced at the beginning of 2009. Companies are stingy. They want and get tax cuts, but they do little in the way of pay increases for their employees. Edited July 13, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan
GG Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Russia Sanctions Measure Stalled by GOP Over Energy Provisions Frustration grows over stalled Russia sanctions bill Put the crack pipe down and step away from the table. Please. The more factual statement slowest economic recovery in history after a the depression we faced at the beginning of 2009. Companies are stingy. They want and get tax cuts, but they do little in the way of pay increases for their employees. You're out of your element when discussing the economy. Please explain exactly how the 2009 financial collapse was like the Depression
row_33 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 You're out of your element when discussing the economy. Please explain exactly how the 2009 financial collapse was like the Depression I read several headlines and articles saying it was worse than the 1930s while it was going on.
Tiberius Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 You're out of your element when discussing the economy. Please explain exactly how the 2009 financial collapse was like the Depression GG, with all the ignorance you spew you have no right to say anyone else is out of their element. I read several headlines and articles saying it was worse than the 1930s while it was going on. Thank the federal government for not allowing it to get that bad!
row_33 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I wish I had that BIG BOOK OF PERFECT ANSWERS FOR ECONOMIC QUESTIONS. 3 economists in a room, 4 airtight logical explanations that contradict each other are propounded.
GG Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I read several headlines and articles saying it was worse than the 1930s while it was going on. I know. Those breadlines were a B word in 2009.
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Put the crack pipe down and step away from the table. Please. The more factual statement slowest economic recovery in history after a the depression we faced at the beginning of 2009. Companies are stingy. They want and get tax cuts, but they do little in the way of pay increases for their employees. Entered as evidence that you know absolutely nothing about the way businesses invest, or the business cycle. Yes, the slowest economic recovery in history coming out of a recession. When the hell else would an economy recover? What else would it recover from? The truth is that the United States economy goes through a recession roughly every 5-8 years, some worse than others. The most recent recession wasn't the worst ever. It arguably wasn't as bad as the double dip of the 1980's. It certainly wasn't as bad as the Great Depression, and yet economic growth coming out of the recession was the worst ever, despite adding 10 trillion dollars to the national debt.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 WOW what a way to spin. But thanks for trying hard to validate your point. yet ..... The truth is that the United States economy goes through a recession roughly every 5-8 years, some worse than others. So, by the analysis you provided we are due for a recession this year and it won't be Donnys fault
Benjamin Franklin Posted July 13, 2017 Author Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) WOW what a way to spin. But thanks for trying hard to validate your point. yet ..... The truth is that the United States economy goes through a recession roughly every 5-8 years, some worse than others. So, by the analysis you provided we are due for a recession this year and it won't be Donnys fault Presidents aren't to blame for the recessions nor credit them with recoveries. Just a cog. Bigger cogs than you or me but still just cogs. Edited July 13, 2017 by Benjamin Franklin
row_33 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Presidents aren't to blame for the recessions nor credit them with recoveries. Just a cog. Bigger cogs than you or me but still just cogs. nah.... some have done worse than others, just like in war.
GG Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Presidents aren't to blame for the recessions nor credit them with recoveries. Just a cog. Bigger cogs than you or me but still just cogs. I'd quibble with that. POTUS can have a greater effect on a recovery than on a collapse. Like putting in growth stifling regulations at the outset of a recovery and increasing the cost of doing business.
HappyDays Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Entered as evidence that you know absolutely nothing about the way businesses invest, or the business cycle. Yes, the slowest economic recovery in history coming out of a recession. When the hell else would an economy recover? What else would it recover from? The truth is that the United States economy goes through a recession roughly every 5-8 years, some worse than others. The most recent recession wasn't the worst ever. It arguably wasn't as bad as the double dip of the 1980's. It certainly wasn't as bad as the Great Depression, and yet economic growth coming out of the recession was the worst ever, despite adding 10 trillion dollars to the national debt. This is an oversimplification. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/10/chris-christie/christie-us-worst-recovery-wwii/ Christie said the United States is in the worst economic recovery from a recession since World War II. Christies campaign did not respond to our request for comment. The truth is it depends on what you measure. Looking at GDP growth, hes right. Looking at the employment picture, the 2001 recovery was worse. Christies claim is partially accurate. We rate it Half True. Tara Sinclair is chief economist at Indeed and economics professor at George Washington University. "We've just passed 61 months of consistent employment growth, and longer if you just look at private employment," Sinclair told PolitiFact. "On that metric, the recovery is the longest since WWII, so that hardly seems the worst. On the other hand, the recovery has been notably slow, and we are not back to the trend level of GDP or employment that we would have expected without the recession." Sinclair added that even in terms of GDP its hard to call this the worst recovery because the country is emerging from what economists count as the deepest recession since World War II. And you want to know how I found this information? I googled three words - "slowest economic recovery." The first few sources were things like Free Beacon and Washington Times. I clicked on Politifact because I know them to be neutral and moderate. You may fancy yourself smarter than everyone else, more principled or whatever. But you are just as susceptible to political biases as anyone you accuse. I mean did you REALLY think there is exactly one measurement to look at when evaluating the economy?
GG Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 This is an oversimplification. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/10/chris-christie/christie-us-worst-recovery-wwii/ And you want to know how I found this information? I googled three words - "slowest economic recovery." The first few sources were things like Free Beacon and Washington Times. I clicked on Politifact because I know them to be neutral and moderate. You may fancy yourself smarter than everyone else, more principled or whatever. But you are just as susceptible to political biases as anyone you accuse. I mean did you REALLY think there is exactly one measurement to look at when evaluating the economy? The economists who were screaming about the worst recession since the 30's had a vested interest in pushing the economic stimulus plan. In historical review though, the recession wasn't caused by business overinvestment and the resulting pullback, but by a massive liquidity crunch across the world's financial players. Once the finance sector stabilized, the economic growth (GDP, jobs & wages) should have rebounded much faster. But it didn't, because domestic profits were made from cost reductions, lower interest rates, tax depreciation gimmickry and stashing profits overseas.
Magox Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 He put Gorsuch on the bench. If that is all he does for the next four years, he's already a better president than Obama. Not really a high bar Presidents aren't to blame for the recessions nor credit them with recoveries. Just a cog. Bigger cogs than you or me but still just cogs. While this is mostly true, presidents and congress can most certainly help contribute to the successes and failures of an economy.
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