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I don't even know where to begin. You want me to defend my assertion that the Trump family is spoiled? And when did I say anything about Chelsea Clinton? She's spoiled too, what's your point?

Demonstrate that President Trumps children are spoiled and entitled to the detriment of the office of the President.

 

If it's a position you hold, you should be able to defend it.

 

If you don't like being put in this situation, I suggest not being so fast to take up the banner of posters making fiat declaration while engaging in fallacy. A simple mea culpa will suffice to put an end to this.

 

 

The range you selected suggests you're familiar with BOTH :lol: ...

 

-Although one is CLEARLY in control...

I'm very familiar. I've been reading all the garbage you've been dumping in this thread all day.

 

Now, would you care to defend your statements with evidence, or are you going to be another useless poster here, speaking his ignorance/lies into the world as if holding an opinion make it valuable in and of itself.

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Demonstrate that President Trumps children are spoiled and entitled to the detriment of the office of the President.

 

The President himself is spoiled and entitled to the detriment of the office of the President.

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The President himself is spoiled and entitled to the detriment of the office of the President.

 

I'm sure he could not care less about the detriment, he probably wallows in it.

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Now, would you care to defend your statements with evidence, or are you going to be another useless poster here, speaking his ignorance/lies into the world as if holding an opinion make it valuable in and of itself.

 

Is Trump Jr. a loudmouth? -Check his twitter feed, unless you've eaten recently..

 

Is it a detriment to his father? :lol: -No more than his father is a detriment to himself, I suppose...

 

You need more evidence? minimize the porn window, and click on any reputable news outlet.

 

 

 

 

are you going to be another useless poster here, speaking his ignorance/lies into the world as if holding an opinion make it valuable in and of itself.

 

I was about to ask you the same question.

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THIS DAY IN “COLLUSION” HYSTERIA :lol:

 

The mainstream media is in a state of ecstasy over the story of Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with that Russian lawyer. It’s easy to understand why. After months with nothing to feed on, the media now has a scrap. In this context, the meal feels like a feast.

It certainly seems that way to Ruth Marcus. She declares, absurdly, that the Trump Jr. emails “could hardly be more incriminating.” I must have missed the one in which he told the Russkies to go ahead and hack John Podesta’s emails, and provided them the password.

Marcus also opines that Trump, Jr. violated U.S. law by accepting something of value from a foreign government agent. If that’s true, then the FBI should raid every embassy party in Washington and half of the city’s cocktail parties. Journalists and others routinely accept useful information (and plenty of interesting gossip) from “foreign government agents” at these events. Even I have used information obtained from diplomats in my writing.

For a sane take on the criminal law implications, if any, of Trump’s emails and subsequent meeting, see this column by Jonathan Turley.

Also lost on (or ignored by) the frenzied mainstream media is the fact, noted by me here, that the information Trump expected to receive from the Russian lawyer pertained to serious collusion between Hillary Clinton and/or Democrats and the Russian government, a potential crime. In other words, Trump Jr. went to the meeting to learn whether there was a basis for believing that Clinton and/or the Democrats were engaging in criminal behavior (treasonous behavior, in the view of some in the media and the Senate).

 

 

 

 

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This is pretty much how it shakes out anyway.

 

 

 

I think a popular vote is more representative of a true democracy.... 48.5% of the popular vote should have trumped Trumps 46.5%

 

Yes, we live in a republic founded on representative government... And yes, in that system sometimes millions of votes just don't count.

True.

 

But if the rules were different the candidates approach to the campaign would be different as well. Trump won in large part because he understood how the electoral college works and campaigned accordingly resulting in the W.

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The President himself is spoiled and entitled to the detriment of the office of the President.

Actually, regardless of what you, I, or anyone else thinks of the man himself, the President has been an incredible boon to the office, as he's thrust a much needed, long overdue civics lesson on the nation. Edited by TakeYouToTasker
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Is Trump Jr. a loudmouth? -Check his twitter feed, unless you've eaten recently..

 

I see. Apparently the definition of "loudmouth" has been expanded to include expressing thoughts and ideas that #34fan disagrees with on twitter.

 

The truth, which is apparently an anathema to you, is that he's not bombastic, and he doesn't engage in personal attacks, and doesn't really do or say anything offensive, unless of course you're a member of the new left who believes strongly in virtue signaling, and finds Republicanism offensive.

 

I reviewed his twitter feed, and discovered that the only truly offensive things located there were in the replies.

 

Is it a detriment to his father? :lol: -No more than his father is a detriment to himself, I suppose...

And there's the unveiling I've been looking for...

 

You lack the ability to be objective because you're blinded by partisanship.

 

You need more evidence? minimize the porn window, and click on any reputable news outlet.

More evidence would imply that you've offered any evidence at all to this point.

 

Care to give me a list of reputable news outlets you'd recommend?

 

 

 

I was about to ask you the same question.

I suspect that's because you're an unmitigated moron who doesn't understand how much of the world works.

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34fan is one of those people who inevitably get dragged down here because a thread is sent here from the main board. They have no real experience debating politics or knowing that it is imperative to back up what they post. They jump in anyway without realizing that they are gayly strolling through a minefield, oblivious to the fact that their prey has a map and derives real pleasure in encouraging them to cross the field. Every time a HuffPost reader gets blown up the sun just shines a little brighter. They'll be back in 6 months or a year having forgot that they shouldn't touch the hot burner.

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I suspect that's because you're an unmitigated moron who doesn't understand how much of the world works.

 

:) I suspect the "suspicion" you hold for me, is actually a TRUTH assigned to YOU...

 

Enjoy the next four years, Donald Jr.

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:) I suspect the "suspicion" you hold for me, is actually a TRUTH assigned to YOU...

 

Enjoy the next four years, Donald Jr.

 

Could you put all your responses in block capital, font size 48?

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:) I suspect the "suspicion" you hold for me, is actually a TRUTH assigned to YOU...

 

Enjoy the next four years, Donald Jr.

That's weird... you seem to have answered the question "What is the most vapid and ignorant thing you could possibly say?" without me ever asking.

 

So far you haven't written a single thing in this thread that you've been able to support with actual evidence.

 

If the things you're saying are true, it should be easy to source the evidence, no?

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34fan is one of those people who inevitably get dragged down here because a thread is sent here from the main board. They have no real experience debating politics or knowing that it is imperative to back up what they post. They jump in anyway without realizing that they are gayly strolling through a minefield, oblivious to the fact that their prey has a map and derives real pleasure in encouraging them to cross the field. Every time a HuffPost reader gets blown up the sun just shines a little brighter. They'll be back in 6 months or a year having forgot that they shouldn't touch the hot burner.

 

Thank you debate team captain! I continue to be amazed by FOOLS who think this ongoing national disgrace is a matter of political preference.

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Thank you debate team captain! I continue to be amazed by FOOLS who think this ongoing national disgrace is a matter of political preference.

The issue is with your apparent inability to think critically, your immediate reporting to confirmation biases, and your laying of charges without the ability to defend them.

 

The fact that you think you've entered a nest of Trump supporters is beyond telling.

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Thank you debate team captain! I continue to be amazed by FOOLS who think this ongoing national disgrace is a matter of political preference.

 

It is entirely a matter of political preference...

 

...wait, we are talking about the preference for centralized, authoritarian leadership, right?

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Assange looks like a guy that eats the heads off bats. Wasn't the arrest of Assange by Pompeo and Sessions a top priority?

 

Sliding into wild speculation here... but remember when this happened?

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/19/world/europe/julian-assange-embassy.html

 

The power was cut to the embassy on October 18th - this was less than six days after the first batch of Podesta's emails were dropped... which depending on how deep down the rabbit hole you go, exposed the (alleged) worst of the worst bits of the CF and the DC establishment. Following the power going out, multiple (unconfirmed) reports circulated that the embassy itself was raided by unknown forces (either US/UK or if you want to go wild with the speculation, FSB). Assange then vanished from the public eye for a few weeks, his twitter tweeted out a "dead man's switch" - which he had prepped and discussed multiple times over the year.

 

While Assange was "missing" and these rumors circulated, Wikileaks dropped two more Podesta email troves, both of these were far less salacious than the first. This led to rampant speculation that he was dead and/or co-opted. Normally, Assange would respond immediately to such rumors, as he's done in the past, but for a solid month and a half (give or take, I forget exactly how long), Assange was MIA from his normal social media channels and allowed those rumors to spread like wildfire.

 

Speculation at the time, and it continues in some circles, suggested Assange was either co-opted or taken out entirely during that period. Which, if it's true and Wikileaks is now controlled opposition for the USIC, would mean there's no point for Sessions of MP to go after their own asset.

 

This technology is important to keep in mind when you consider how the majority of Assange's appearances happen:

 

 

Of course Assange denies all of this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4226024/Julian-Assange-says-intruder-tried-embassy.html

 

... Which is what a CIA plant would do. :w00t::ph34r:

 

It's an information war... things are gonna get trippy.

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