Keukasmallies Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Protests cost money: Transportation, organization, signage, etc. these "spontaneous" occurances at town hall meetings, on college campuses, outside (and inside) government offices require some level of funding. It appears there are common themes that appear across the range of protests. For example, the protests at UC Berkeley featured "outsiders" bent of violence and destruction according to those familiar with the activities there. So, are the people that backed the Presidental candidate who lost recouping their "investment" by funding protests to disrupt the new administration and introduce a generally negative tone in the country? Far fetched, I think not; after all, the candidate not only lost the election, but the family "foundation" collapsed and the family reputation is in a downward spiral. Supporters may be seeking retribution for their failed efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Maybe they're gonna get a bailout! It would be interesting to say the least if the new AG appointed a SP to investigate some of Soros's funding activities. Some of these events border on sedition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 You'd be surprised at how little it costs. Organizing a college protest, for example, costs nothing. Organizing a protest in a college town costs just as much (let students know there's a protest, and they'll self-organize for free, including transportation.) You want professional signs? Art students will design them, and you can get them printed by school services dirt-cheap (if not free). Larger protests/demonstrations...the Women's March on Washington was organized in about 2.5 months, by volunteers. For the most part, signage, transportation, and the like is handled individually (i.e, you want to go, you pay your own way) or by other organization (e.g. remember the $50M in "non-chargeable" expenses AFT has that I mentioned in another thread? One of those expenses is chartering buses to bring union members in from outside DC for the march.) There's really not much in the way of organization or expenses on a national level for those sorts of things. Others...as a general rule of thumb, if people are just walking and chanting, they're probably self-organized and funded for the most part. The people acting more active than that - picking fights, destroying things, trying provoke the police - they have some sort of backing from socialist organizations (e.g. ANSWER and the Worker's World Party - all of these groups are so interrelated it's practically incestuous.) They're also the ones that distribute the pre-printed signs. Where they get their financing from...private donations, activism grants from philanthropic organizations (e.g. the defunct Vanguard.) Ultimately, they get money through several levels of "laundering" (for lack of a better word) so that they could be funded by North Korea, for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Just follow who this guy works for, and that is where the money (and tactics) comes from. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Creamer_(political_consultant) http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2438 Edited February 12, 2017 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr.Sack Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Where is the money coming from? Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 Upon further review I'm thinking that protests, whether violent or peaceful, are certainly a product of the media and the "he who buys ink by the barrel" concept. I don't believe that inciting protests is an objectrive of the majority of media outlets yet I'm sure that some of them quietly wink at the unintended consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 One of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Just follow who this guy works for, and that is where the money (and tactics) comes from. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Creamer_(political_consultant) http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2438 This Robert Creamer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 You'd be surprised at how little it costs. Organizing a college protest, for example, costs nothing. Organizing a protest in a college town costs just as much (let students know there's a protest, and they'll self-organize for free, including transportation.) You want professional signs? Art students will design them, and you can get them printed by school services dirt-cheap (if not free). Larger protests/demonstrations...the Women's March on Washington was organized in about 2.5 months, by volunteers. For the most part, signage, transportation, and the like is handled individually (i.e, you want to go, you pay your own way) or by other organization (e.g. remember the $50M in "non-chargeable" expenses AFT has that I mentioned in another thread? One of those expenses is chartering buses to bring union members in from outside DC for the march.) There's really not much in the way of organization or expenses on a national level for those sorts of things. Others...as a general rule of thumb, if people are just walking and chanting, they're probably self-organized and funded for the most part. The people acting more active than that - picking fights, destroying things, trying provoke the police - they have some sort of backing from socialist organizations (e.g. ANSWER and the Worker's World Party - all of these groups are so interrelated it's practically incestuous.) They're also the ones that distribute the pre-printed signs. Where they get their financing from...private donations, activism grants from philanthropic organizations (e.g. the defunct Vanguard.) Ultimately, they get money through several levels of "laundering" (for lack of a better word) so that they could be funded by North Korea, for all we know. Blah blah blah but if you think Vera Wang designs vagina suits for free you are sadly mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I want them arrested and sent to Russian labor camps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Be thankful from where the do-re-me may be coming from OR you all would have a snowballs chance in hell @ "checks & balances!" The toady Repubs in Congress are falling in lock stop w/the Jackbooters. And not just protesters, it takes lawyers too: That Fed judge in in Seattle? Where'd they get him. https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/trump-travel-immigration-ban-muslims-supreme-court-san-francisco-9th-circuit-555203%3Famp%3D1?client=ms-android-verizon http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/01/the-women-fighting-trumps-immigration-ban.html Hate it all you want, but for the sake of of Checks & Balances, liberty, @ least the libs aren't some Deplorable or Teabagger only concerned about Sunday shopping @ Walmart in their suburb or country town. Embrace the money trail... Even if it is like DCTom so well put. It is for your own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 A few thoughts on this new supposed “left-wing tea party” movement There’s no doubt that liberals, unhappy with the election of Donald Trump as the nation’s next president, are up in arms and taking to the streets in significant numbers. Something (or someone) is clearly driving them (if not funding them) to activism in broad strokes. They’ve been showing up at town hall meetings and disrupting the normal order of business, quite similar to what was seen in 2008 through 2010. This has led the media to attempt to draw tempting parallels to the genesis of the Tea Party. Another example of this phenomenon is found in a weekend piece at the Washington Post which seeks to describe both the opportunities and perils awaiting Democrats should they attempt to hitch their wagon to this new unruly beast. (Washington Post) The incentive for left-leaning reporters to try to make these comparisons is obvious and in some ways understandable. What is not being reported, either intentionally or through oversight, is the fact that there are also significant differences between the ground game being seen in 2017 and what took place at the end of George W. Bush’s term in office. Having been around for that raucous era, I can well remember much of the chaos that engulfed the “movement.” When the Tea Party formed, it was quite the hot mess. It began in fits and starts in different parts of the nation, frequently with less than glowing results. In the upstate New York area where I live, two different tea party groups formed with headquarters less than an hour apart. The two organizations almost immediately went to war with each other, while at the same time fighting internal battles with competing leaders attempting to set the agenda. What we’re seeing today is almost entirely different. I do not doubt the sincerity of many of the liberal activists expressing their outrage, but the mechanisms being used to engage and coordinate their efforts are both obvious and very different from the early days of the Tea Party. Social media chains erupt on a moment’s notice directing protesters to show up at town halls, airports, municipal centers or wherever else they may be needed. These “grassroots activists” seem to arrive in large groups, frequently with buses provided, carrying pre-printed professional signage and well orchestrated chants which they read off of their mobile devices like an army of Stepford wives whose programming has run into a critical error loop. Another key difference is the fact that the Tea Party groups generally had a specific agenda of items in matters of governance which they wished to see changed. They were seeking to throw out the old guard regardless of party affiliation before even beginning a discussion of what the new agenda might be. Conversely, today’s liberal activists seem to have only one thought in mind: finding a way to end the Trump presidency before it even begins. Rather than fighting for change, they are heeding a call from someone – we don’t know who yet – to forcibly roll back the clock and replay the last eight years of the Obama administration. These activities are certainly newsworthy and I don’t begrudge the media for covering them. But let’s not make a mistake here… this is not the Tea Party. It’s not even remotely similar. This is a finely tuned protest machine, bitter about the recent defeat and seeking to harness friendly forces in the mainstream media to reinforce a daily narrative that the winner of the election as failed before he’s even begun. If there’s any good news on the horizon, it’s the fact that much of the public doesn’t seem to be paying attention, or at least not blindly accepting everything they see on cable news. http://hotair.com/archives/2017/02/12/a-few-thoughts-on-this-new-left-wing-tea-party-movement/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Be thankful from where the do-re-me may be coming from OR you all would have a snowballs chance in hell @ "checks & balances!" The toady Repubs in Congress are falling in lock stop w/the Jackbooters. And not just protesters, it takes lawyers too: That Fed judge in in Seattle? Where'd they get him. https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/trump-travel-immigration-ban-muslims-supreme-court-san-francisco-9th-circuit-555203%3Famp%3D1?client=ms-android-verizon http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/01/the-women-fighting-trumps-immigration-ban.html Hate it all you want, but for the sake of of Checks & Balances, liberty, @ least the libs aren't some Deplorable or Teabagger only concerned about Sunday shopping @ Walmart in their suburb or country town. Embrace the money trail... Even if it is like DCTom so well put. It is for your own good. Ha, yeah we need people throwing molotov cocktails in the streets. Where were all these people when Obama was bombing Syria, creating the refugee crisis, issuing immigration bans, giving billions of dollars to Iran, etc.? So you are all for billionaires trying to subvert the democratic process in the US, because it's all about "checks and balances"? This Robert Creamer? That's the guy. He has been around for years, the go to guy for creep activities of the Chicago Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 You guys need to take Baurle's cue and check the trees in your backyard for federal agents with ray guns.... Hurry.......they are there....... spooky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 You guys need to take Baurle's cue and check the trees in your backyard for federal agents with ray guns.... Hurry.......they are there....... spooky Yeah, spooky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Soros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 How do you think we can bring everything, voting, tech, etc... HONESTLY into the 21st century? We have a real mess on our hands. Split right down middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Obama PACs Bus Protesters To GOP Town Halls Political action committees that fundraised for President Barrack Obama during the 2012 presidential election, bused protesters to Republican town hall events nationwide earlier in February, according to a Sunday report from The Washington Post.https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/a-gift-and-a-challenge-for-democrats-a-restive-active-and-aggressive-base/2017/02/11/e265dd44-efef-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_resistance-7pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.ecdfc3892886 Democrats nationwide continue to search for ways to oppose President Donald Trump after the 2016 election, and they are digging deep into funding from years ago. An unnamed pro-Obama super PAC organized protests at several town halls, going so far as busing protesters outside the member’s districts . Since super PACS were legalized in the 2010 Citizens United Supreme Court decision, this marks the first time that money raised to elect one president was used to undermine another. The town hall protests largely opposed the executive order that limited travel from seven nations identified as potential sources of terrorism. Former staffers of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton are also pouncing on the opportunity. The Center for American Progress, operated by Clinton advisor Neera Tanden, worked with pro-Obama groups in February to encourage Democrats to oppose Republican lawmakers, including Reps. Jason Chaffetz and Dave Brat, at several town halls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Since super PACS were legalized in the 2010 Citizens United Supreme Court decision, this marks the first time that money raised to elect one president was used to undermine another. Well, that's a misleading overstatement. Given that super-PACS were only legalized during the Obama administration, I'd say it's the first time simply because it's the first opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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