Nanker Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I heard George Washington was once in New York. Donald Trump is from New York. So, everything Trump does is something George Washington already laid the groundwork for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I heard George Washington was once in New York. Donald Trump is from New York. So, everything Trump does is something George Washington already laid the groundwork for. You didn't build that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Would Trump have done the same deal with Blackstone? Ask Mnuchin. Do you understand the economics of Fannie Mae's involvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Today I learned that there are no credible progressives in the US House, Senate, SCOTUS, or Obama Administration. Of course not. When your definition of "credible progressive" is "didn't support the ACA," then how can any progressive who supports it be credible? Tautology is tautological. And not worth arguing about. And !@#$ing idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 Ask Mnuchin. Do you understand the economics of Fannie Mae's involvement? Mnunchin does like forclosing. It depends if he's long or short Blackstone. But back to question at hand. Does someone who purports to be an "economic populist" do a bailout? Is it right that Blackstone's profits are privatized while their risks are socialized by Fannie Mae? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Mnunchin does like forclosing. It depends if he's long or short Blackstone. But back to question at hand. Does someone who purports to be an "economic populist" do a bailout? Is it right that Blackstone's profits are privatized while their risks are socialized by Fannie Mae? It is my understanding that the Fannie Mae loan will be backed by the higher quality tranches of the pool, so the first losses will be borne by the holders of the lower tranches. But don't let that get in the way of spoiling your zerohedge love fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 It is my understanding that the Fannie Mae loan will be backed by the higher quality tranches of the pool, so the first losses will be borne by the holders of the lower tranches. But don't let that get in the way of spoiling your zerohedge love fest. GG defending Obama. Wow. I've lived long enough to see conservatives full embrace of Obama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 GG defending Obama. Wow. I've lived long enough to see conservatives full embrace of Obama! I'm defending the commercial transaction, you idiot. It's not a friggin bailout, moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 GG defending Obama. Wow. I've lived long enough to see conservatives full embrace of Obama!but not lived here long enough to realize how thought out GG was and how adamant he has been about the bailout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) I'm defending the commercial transaction, you idiot. It's not a friggin bailout, moron. He who casts the first insult loses the debate. Calling me a moron doesn't change the fact that taking risks on to Fannie's balance sheet isn't socializing the risk. Weren't you the one's mad that Obama took lowered the FHA mortgage protection insurance interest rate? So in essence, something that helps a vast majority of homeowners bad, something that helps hedge funds good. God bless America. Edited February 6, 2017 by Dr.Sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 He who casts the first insult loses the debate. Calling me a moron doesn't change the fact that taking risks on to Fannie's balance sheet isn't socializing the risk. Weren't you the one's made that Obama took lowered the FHA mortgage protection insurance interest rate? So in essence, something that helps a vast majority of homeowners bad, something that helps hedge fund good. God bless America. You're an idiot and you still lost the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 You're an idiot and you still lost the debate. I've figured out this board. Conservatives outnumber liberals 100 to 1 and when a debate is lost in the immortal words of D.C. Tom some is called an idiot. Rather than call me an idiot come back with something better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 He who casts the first insult loses the debate. Calling me a moron doesn't change the fact that taking risks on to Fannie's balance sheet isn't socializing the risk. Weren't you the one's mad that Obama took lowered the FHA mortgage protection insurance interest rate? So in essence, something that helps a vast majority of homeowners bad, something that helps hedge funds good. God bless America. You know who else cast the first insult and lost the debate? Hitler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I've figured out this board. Conservatives outnumber liberals 100 to 1 and when a debate is lost in the immortal words of D.C. Tom some is called an idiot. Rather than call me an idiot come back with something better. I'm far from a conservative. I just understand finance, you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I'm far from a conservative. I just understand finance, you don't. I've noticed that liberals have a marked tendency to think "understanding finance" equals "conservative." Or understanding law. Or understanding science. Or understanding anything, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 I've noticed that liberals have a marked tendency to think "understanding finance" equals "conservative." Or understanding law. Or understanding science. Or understanding anything, really. I've noticed that you don't ever say anything substantive. It's all insults and putdowns. Better you shoot the messenger than to answer a question. Which makes you a moron and a $&@!ing idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I've noticed that you don't ever say anything substantive. It's all insults and putdowns. Better you shoot the messenger than to answer a question. Which makes you a moron and a $&@!ing idiot. Answer what question? You don't ask questions. You make statements, then get whiny when challenged, and avoid discussion at all costs. I do make substantive posts. I just don't direct them towards your ilk, because retards like you are a waste of time. That's why I wrote a bot to deal with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I've figured out this board. Conservatives outnumber liberals 100 to 1 and when a debate is lost in the immortal words of D.C. Tom some is called an idiot. Rather than call me an idiot come back with something better. Someone who made the following completely asinine statements earlier in the thread, is lucky to only be called an idiot. I can say that unequivocally. I'm a Progressive but can tell you the ACA was never supported nor endorsed by any credible progressive. I think it's a huge Corporate takeover of our healthcare industry. Yes apparently you think Obama is a progressive I can unequivocally say he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 Answer what question? You don't ask questions. You make statements, then get whiny when challenged, and avoid discussion at all costs. I do make substantive posts. I just don't direct them towards your ilk, because retards like you are a waste of time. That's why I wrote a bot to deal with you. Answer the question on Blackstone. Do you agree that Obama or Trump in the future should be directing Fannie Mae to take on the risks of the securitization of their rental properties tranches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Answer the question on Blackstone. Do you agree that Obama or Trump in the future should be directing Fannie Mae to take on the risks of the securitization of their rental properties tranches? Tom doesn't understand the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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