BuffaloBaumer Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 Bills make the playoffs this year if Rex hadn't destroyed the defense. Alex Smith on this team equals backwards
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 I disagree. Romo hasn't been clutch in the playoffs. He's Peyton Manning without the gifted SBs..
Thrivefourfive Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) I'd rather watch 4-12 football with hopes for a future, than sit through Alex Smith dunking the ball to....nobody. His favorite target at KC is a guy that Buffalo doesn't have. Nobody really has a Travis Kelce...he don't get hurt. I'm warming up to the Romo era. Playoffs if he makes it standing up. And an indirect tank job if he crumbles. Win-win. Edited February 4, 2017 by Thrivefourfive
reddogblitz Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 You don't dump TT for Alex Smith. Watch me if I get to make the call. I like Hotrod but he's not a winner because he comes up small late. Alex is a winner. 2 chances for the dagger TD vs Fish unrealized. 1st and Goal for the win vs Hawks squandered. Shall I go on? Alex has burned us late several times. Pull the trigger if you get the opportunity. only with a top scoring defense. Tyrod has a winning career record with a below average scoring defense. 15-14 yeah, winning. Kyle Orton 7-5 also winning.
WideRightRevenge Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 Totally disagree. He gets the most out of what he has. Agree with Atbillsfan1975 ... Let me get this straight .. we haven't been in the playoffs in 17 years and we're throwing stones at Andy Reid and what he's done at Philly and at KC ... look at that roster ... I know we all want Super Bowl ... but goodness ... how do you bash a guy with that playoff pedigree.
FireChan Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 Nope, those are moving goal posts my friend. If you want to use win percentage then use win percentage in all cases. You can't be selective. You said that you "saw Tyrod lose 14 games over the last 2 years." I said "I saw Brees lose 17 games over the last 2 years." You either factor in the teams (reasonable) or not. You can't pick and choose when to apply that criteria. Then you make up some arbitrary numbers like Smith is 3 more wins to the Chiefs than Tyrod to the Bills despite their stats being virtually identical? How are rationalizing this other than "that's what fits the story that I am trying to tell?" I think that you are a good poster but you should probably bow out on this one or present some evidence. If you want to say "wins belong to QBs" then losses to do. If you want to be rational and realize that wins and losses are a team stat, your whole point about Alex Smith winning goes out the window. It can't be both. I do factor in the teams. I just do not give credit to TT for things he hasn't done. Alex Smith winning with the Chiefs is uncanny. You can agree there's something there beyond the stat line that we haven't seen with TT.
John from Riverside Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 I do factor in the teams. I just do not give credit to TT for things he hasn't done. Alex Smith winning with the Chiefs is uncanny. You can agree there's something there beyond the stat line that we haven't seen with TT. if that is the case then you should give tt more time
boyst Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 He has won but TT has a winning record here too. I don't think that Smith elevates anyone. He plays on a good team and doesn't hold them back. You could plug a lot of guys in at KC and win. agreed. taylor is no worse or better than smith or romo to what they can provide to this team.
Beef Jerky Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 Smith is a winner. Can't teach that. So even the worst player on the Chiefs is a winner then by your logic... Do you want whoever that is?
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 nfl's rappoport says romo could be traded to kc as reid is non-comitting to alex smith. you want alex smith? trade would make no sense imo for the chiefs to get romo. not the greatest but he is a step above TT so yes and would make a good bridge to a young drafted QB.
Beef Jerky Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 not the greatest but he is a step above TT so yes and would make a good bridge to a young drafted QB. No he isn't... And no he wouldn't.
FireChan Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 So even the worst player on the Chiefs is a winner then by your logic... Do you want whoever that is? Depends on how much he sucks. If he's better than a Bill, yeah.
Boatdrinks Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 He's Peyton Manning without the gifted SBs.. Romo isn't even close to being as good as Peyton Manning.
Beef Jerky Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 Depends on how much he sucks. If he's better than a Bill, yeah. Not what you said. If they are in a winning team that is all that matters.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 not the greatest but he is a step above TT so yes and would make a good bridge to a young drafted QB. He's not a step up. You can find the side-by-side comparison in another thread but here is the brief version. Over the last 2 years: Alex Smith (per game): 245.8 total yards, 1.35 TD, .48 INT Tyrod (per game): 248.5 total yards, 1.62 TD, .41 INT TT averages more total yards, more TDs and less INTs. They are close but in no world is Smith a step up.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 No he isn't... And no he wouldn't. sure just keep telling yourself that while TT misses throws left and right and of course over the middle
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 sure just keep telling yourself that while TT misses throws left and right and of course over the middle See post directly above
purple haze Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 Except win more than 8 games. TT's a little lacking in that department. Again, you ignore the team aspect of the game. Smith had a great D and reliable ST's. The Chiefs use the same formula the Bills have been trying to implement, but the D regressed under Rex from where they had been previously. Smith will not elevate the Bills. He is a part of a strategy that is successful if the other parts are also successful. He is not Aaron Rodgers. If you put Alex Smith on the 2016 Packers they would not have made the playoffs.
purple haze Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) sure just keep telling yourself that while TT misses throws left and right and of course over the middle Smith misses a lot of throws too. Always has from his time in San Francisco. I pull these quotes from the Chiefs message board over a discussion about if they should attempt to get Romo: Romo I like him. I have a hard time watching Alex miss guys and not taking shots. I don’t know if he can read a defense or is to nervous in the pocket. Probowl missing that pass 10 feet over the receiver is embarrassing. Yes Romo cld get hurt but I think in Andy’s system if you have a arm and can read a defense the ball shld come out quick.Alex has had the last to years with the D doing some heavy lifting and he cld not get it done. Posted by ohchiefsfan on Feb 4, 2017 | 8:14 AM I'm all for getting him and cutting Alex best case we make a run in the AFC, worst case he gets hurt and we bomb in a season leading up to some legit franchise QB prospects. Posted by RamX21 on Feb 4, 2017 | 8:20 AM This x1000 Just getting us out of QB purgatory makes it worth it Posted by brownmanchiefsfan on Feb 4, 2017 | 11:36 AM My thoughts... Smith is not the answer. Romo is too fragile, every time he falls down it’s a broken collarbone. They need to look elsewhere, but absolutely 100% keep looking. Posted by Chiefsfansince85 on Feb 4, 2017 | 10:50 AM There are a few who love Smith, but most folks even if they do not want Romo want the team to draft a guy who can take over from Smith sooner than later. Edited February 5, 2017 by purple haze
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 The Chiefs would have killed the Steelers with Romo fwiw. Alternative facts
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