Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Report: Browns will try to trade for Patriots backup QB Jimmy Garoppolo http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-browns-will-try-to-trade-for-patriots-backup-qb-jimmy-garoppolo/ Worked well for the Chiefs with Cassel and the Texans with Hammer, I mean Mallet <----sarcasm Also worked well for the Browns with RGIII It's interesting how different teams look for QB. The Texans seem to always be looking through another team's scrap heap. The Browns now seem trending that way as well.
PatsFanNH Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 More "Patriot Way" stuff. It's very easy to get any player to take less money because they have the greatest QB to ever play, and thus can use "you want to win championships every year, sign with us" as the ultimate bargaining chip. I'm sure every team would operate under this structure if they had the luxury of Tom Brady and all the extra perks it gets you, besides dominating in every facet of the conference for a generation. One would think the NFL would get involved at some point. Not on the cheating, just on it's parity / self-imposed balancing. The Patriots are so good they blow away the argument that "any team can be successful" and "any team can beat any team" mantra they sell to its corporate sponsors and rabid ticket and merchandise buying fanbase. It's just simply not true. Parity does not exist with the Patriots in the AFC. They've made the conference title game 6 years in a row, an NFL record. How the NFL could argue this is fair is beyond comprehension. They have a conference where 15 (!) teams are competing for 1 spot in the conference championship every year. Something must be done, whether with whole scale conference and divisional realignment, or instituting some sort of promotional/relegational conferencing system. It's just boring. It's not interesting for any football fan besides those living in Massachusetts. Very well written post!. As a Pats fan I can't deny any of what you said as the number bare it out: 7 SB in 15 years (47% of the time) 11 AFCCG in 15 years (73% of the time) 14 out of 15 division titles (93% of the time) Scary thing is for the AFC in the SB it has been primarily only Brady,Big Ben, and P Manning in the SB since 2005? I think only Flacco went one year. So while the Pats have dominated it's been pretty much controlled by 3 QBs (and 4 teams) for almost 12 years. I don't see how you fix it until the last 2 retire in Big Ben and Brady.
Adam Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 That was the best team of all time. And their team's are consistently high on that list, even in down years
Chuck Wagon Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 More "Patriot Way" stuff. It's very easy to get any player to take less money because they have the greatest QB to ever play, and thus can use "you want to win championships every year, sign with us" as the ultimate bargaining chip. I'm sure every team would operate under this structure if they had the luxury of Tom Brady and all the extra perks it gets you, besides dominating in every facet of the conference for a generation. One would think the NFL would get involved at some point. Not on the cheating, just on it's parity / self-imposed balancing. The Patriots are so good they blow away the argument that "any team can be successful" and "any team can beat any team" mantra they sell to its corporate sponsors and rabid ticket and merchandise buying fanbase. It's just simply not true. Parity does not exist with the Patriots in the AFC. They've made the conference title game 6 years in a row, an NFL record. How the NFL could argue this is fair is beyond comprehension. They have a conference where 15 (!) teams are competing for 1 spot in the conference championship every year. Something must be done, whether with whole scale conference and divisional realignment, or instituting some sort of promotional/relegational conferencing system. It's just boring. It's not interesting for any football fan besides those living in Massachusetts. Peyton never left money on the table. Rodgers doesn't leave money on the table. Brees doesn't leave money on the table..... Brady is a special case because he's not even the bread winner in his household, but it's no secret how big of an advantage his salary gives the Pats, yet no one else is copying it. It's not some special advantage based off selling winning (they have 1 SB win in a decade), it's because Brady is able and willing to do what other top QBs are not and that trickles through the organization.
PatsFanNH Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 And their team's are consistently high on that list, even in down years I think his point was that everyone points to Cassel going 11-5 as a great accomplishment, but he had the same team pretty much that went 16-0. Oh and they had a very easy schedule to boot.
Adam Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I think his point was that everyone points to Cassel going 11-5 as a great accomplishment, but he had the same team pretty much that went 16-0. Oh and they had a very easy schedule to boot. Part of my point- that team is kept as a well-oiled machine. If one part breaks down, plug in another and you won't miss too much most of the time
KOKBILLS Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Please tell me someone heard that moron Zolak on Murphy's show today say that the price for Garappolo STARTS at a 1st and a 2nd?
PatsFanNH Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Please tell me someone heard that moron Zolak on Murphy's show today say that the price for Garappolo STARTS at a 1st and a 2nd? Ok he is the Pats color Guy, so he has Pom Poms ok lol. I love Zoe he is hilarious on play by play..
CommonCents Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Ok he is the Pats color Guy, so he has Pom Poms ok lol. I love Zoe he is hilarious on play by play.. Zolak and the cast of clowns are an embarrassment. Should have heard the foolish questions coming from Volin and Shaunnessey directed at Goodell. Jerry Sullivan has nothing on these guys. Petty little attempts intended to get Roger to mix his words. No one outside of NE cares about deflategate anymore. No one cares if he goes to Gillette for a game. If Roger goes to Gillette are they going to allow the crowd to be rowdy? I heard if you get rowdy down there they take away your seasons. That must explain the terrible game atmosphere coming out of that Mall oops I mean stadium.
KOKBILLS Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Ok he is the Pats color Guy, so he has Pom Poms ok lol. I love Zoe he is hilarious on play by play.. Well...I have to admit that was the funniest thing I heard all day... But he was dead serious...
PatsFanNH Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Zolak and the cast of clowns are an embarrassment. Should have heard the foolish questions coming from Volin and Shaunnessey directed at Goodell. Jerry Sullivan has nothing on these guys. Petty little attempts intended to get Roger to mix his words. No one outside of NE cares about deflategate anymore. No one cares if he goes to Gillette for a game. If Roger goes to Gillette are they going to allow the crowd to be rowdy? I heard if you get rowdy down there they take away your seasons. That must explain the terrible game atmosphere coming out of that Mall oops I mean stadium. Again Zoe is the color guy and has darker glasses on than even the most die hard fan. Most upnhere have moved on from deflategate.. (although It still ticks me off when I hear false statements like 11 out of 12 balls were 2 psi under the min.) but a few hold on and want make Goodell miserable. I just want that man fired for being incompetent!
OldTimer1960 Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I would be very leery of trading for Garropolo. Think about it - if NE thought he would be an upper eshelon QB, they would not trade him with a 39 year old Brady ahead of him. Certainly they would want more than 1 1st round pick for him if they were convinced he was going to be a star.
CommonCents Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Again Zoe is the color guy and has darker glasses on than even the most die hard fan. Most upnhere have moved on from deflategate.. (although It still ticks me off when I hear false statements like 11 out of 12 balls were 2 psi under the min.) but a few hold on and want make Goodell miserable. I just want that man fired for being incompetent! Fired for being incompetent? He does his jobs. He takes the heat for the Billionaires greedy decisions and has mastered saying nothing. I don't like him either but clearly he is doing his job well or they would have pushed him out by now. Look at all these franchises holding fans hostage for stadiums or relocating...he is doing his job to damn well. The NFL answers to no one and that's the problem, that comes from the owners,not the clown they trot out there with a big red nose so he can "answer" questions.
BuffaloBill Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Why would Bill Belichick trade away a young QB who might be good when he has a 39 year old starter? Think about it. ^^^^ This - No way does Bellicheat let a real prospect walk - perhaps its the deal that could possibly never be refused...
FireChan Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I am praying that Garrapolo goes to the Browns and is the next HoF QB. Combined with a Brady retirement, BB would have to retire.
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