FireChan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) i dont understand the first question, mainly bc i didnt say that. please elaborate to the second question i would say yes, for two reasons. first, having a perceived black man in the WH emboldened racist and borderline racist blacks to expand their one-way definition of racism to be even more white-only centric than it already was. thats why BLM was able to thrive as we even saw black churches set up tables in Ferguson extolling the narrative that whites were to blame for all of this. i would also say that some whites emboldened their own racism at the sight of a 'black' man in 'their' house, they didnt like seeing a person of color in what was always previously their job, so their racism surged back for a spell i think the white part of that settled down by the time obamas second term rolled around. the black racism continued to flourish, however, as there still was virtually no push back to an expanding one-way black agenda of white-only racism. it wasnt until we drove the seething mass of disaffected whites to the polls that we exposed our enormous blunder. now its going to take the better part of the next decade to work back to where we could and should have been shortly after obamas election: with ppl from both sides working together to stop this cycle of blame and unite under common causes instead of creating new race wars i dont even get that You stated that: fortunately we have a golden example staring us right in the face: the fact that we elected trump should be the shocker that wakes you up to the reality that we MUST do something different now. This is coming on the heels of overwhelming victories for the first black President in his elections. Is Trump truly a "wake-up call" when the last 8 years have been a historical leap for Afro-Americans? But even though a hefty contigent of white folks voted for Obama, they were emboldened in their racism by seeing him there? What? This takes talking out of your ass to a whole new level. Edited January 28, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 just a little housecleaning here ... You're way beyond everyone here on race...yet in a discussion that has been exclusively about presidential policy w/r/t the opposition party, you're the first one to bring up race? lol! do i reeally have to go back and find some of your posts that diverted the topic of a thread? holy smokes dude Isn't it obvious? He's so far advanced that he can insult blacks (bidness?) Yet thinks that every GOP member of both legislative chambers opposed Obama simply because he is black. exactly how is using a black colloquialism insulting to blacks? if i use colloquialisms for other races does that automatically equate to insulting them? consider all the widespread use of redneck colloquialisms before you answer and i didnt even come close to claiming that second part your experiences in niagara falls communities are not a representation of neighborhoods around the country. neighborhoods in High Point would get you shunned. neighborhoods in burlington would get you stabbed. neighborhoods in south toledo would get you run over. your experiences of being robin hood, mother tersea and ghandi are not applicable in the world because they're only small moments in time and opportunity. wny, rochester, nyc, wdc, atlanta. pretty much everywhere i have lived or traveled i have been a civil rights worker. naturally, of course, bc it simply has been part of my life since as long as i can remember, thanks to my wonderful mother who loved everybody You stated that: fortunately we have a golden example staring us right in the face: the fact that we elected trump should be the shocker that wakes you up to the reality that we MUST do something different now. This is coming on the heels of overwhelming victories for the first black President in his elections. Is Trump truly a "wake-up call" when the last 8 years have been a historical leap for Afro-Americans? the only major historical leap we had taken by electing obama was putting a perceived black man in the office. surely that was indeed a momentous occasion, but it only represented the start of a potential change for the better, not the actual change itself But even though a hefty contigent of white folks voted for Obama, they were emboldened in their racism by seeing him there? What? i was referring to racist whites and blacks that had their own different attachments to racism flourish after the election for different reasons. i was not talking about non-racist blacks or whites at all This takes talking out of your ass to a whole new level. im not going to tolerate being spoken to like that. this was your last shot. if you want replies you will need to address me reasonably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) the only major historical leap we had taken by electing obama was putting a perceived black man in the office. surely that was indeed a momentous occasion, but it only represented the start of a potential change for the better, not the actual change itself i was referring to racist whites and blacks that had their own different attachments to racism flourish after the election for different reasons. i was not talking about non-racist blacks or whites at all im not going to tolerate being spoken to like that. this was your last shot. if you want replies you will need to address me reasonably A perceived black man? What does that mean? How is the act a potential change when it is something done for the first time in history? What would define a true change if not achieving the highest position in the land? Would the first Native American President or Woman President elected only be potential changes for those groups? Who are the racist whites? What data do you have to say that non-racists voted for him or that racists did not? Do you have links? Studies? Polls? Anything that can be propped up as proof? Apologies for my crassness, but it seems to me you're making sweeping generalizations with no data to defend your point. How do you define a racist? Someone who didn't like Obama when he was President? Someone who voted for Trump? It sounds to me as though those are your two criteria, and I highly suggest you rethink those assumptions or at least defend them if you wish to avoid further ridicule around here. I don't mean to dissuade you from voicing your opinion or going at length to defend it, but a man standing on a soap box spouting his world view without a shred of evidence will not be well-received anywhere, but especially not on PPP. At least without heavy disclaimers. I've gotten murdered here several times for forgetting that simple truth. Make an argument. Edited January 28, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 i want to go to lunch with meathead, EII and DC Tom. I would remain quiet. I would bring up topics and give them each 2 minutes to discuss their opinion. Tom would be chained to the chair and sharp objects removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 time my padawan rest assured you are actually asking good questions. i have mature material that covers all of that so kudos on finding parts of the right path so far lets see if we can draw out a few more of these oozing sores so that maybe we can address several at once. ppl can only take so much, we have to let them come to it a little on their own first plus even im tired from the effort. i need a little break myself i want to go to lunch with meathead, EII and DC Tom. I would remain quiet. I would bring up topics and give them each 2 minutes to discuss their opinion. Tom would be chained to the chair and sharp objects removed. lmao! who says we would let you MC? drunk on sawdust whiskey and fondling your garter belted sheep girlfriend. ive been through that exercise with half my family. it never goes well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 just a little housecleaning here ... lol! do i reeally have to go back and find some of your posts that diverted the topic of a thread? holy smokes dude exactly how is using a black colloquialism insulting to blacks? if i use colloquialisms for other races does that automatically equate to insulting them? consider all the widespread use of redneck colloquialisms before you answer and i didnt even come close to claiming that second part wny, rochester, nyc, wdc, atlanta. pretty much everywhere i have lived or traveled i have been a civil rights worker. naturally, of course, bc it simply has been part of my life since as long as i can remember, thanks to my wonderful mother who loved everybody the only major historical leap we had taken by electing obama was putting a perceived black man in the office. surely that was indeed a momentous occasion, but it only represented the start of a potential change for the better, not the actual change itself i was referring to racist whites and blacks that had their own different attachments to racism flourish after the election for different reasons. i was not talking about non-racist blacks or whites at all im not going to tolerate being spoken to like that. this was your last shot. if you want replies you will need to address me reasonably blablabalablabalbal you are workign with civil rights. that means you cater to a specific bunch of people looking to work with you the ones who you need to work with realize you'll do nothing for them and pretty much avoid you and any other beautcratic or 'oranizer' because they simply realize youll only interfere with the life they want ot lead. again you look to find one specific thing. you look hard enoguh youll find it every time. time my padawan rest assured you are actually asking good questions. i have mature material that covers all of that so kudos on finding parts of the right path so far lets see if we can draw out a few more of these oozing sores so that maybe we can address several at once. ppl can only take so much, we have to let them come to it a little on their own first plus even im tired from the effort. i need a little break myself lmao! who says we would let you MC? drunk on sawdust whiskey and fondling your garter belted sheep girlfriend. ive been through that exercise with half my family. it never goes well tom would not be allowed sharp objects because he would not try to harm you two. he would try to harm himself to escape. eric would than try to give him a hug and express sympathy for him whilst you proclaimed that he was resisting progression and denying your opportunity to say something. eric would than play the role of your dad whilst you act like mom and continue to yell at the bag boy of the A&P (tom) for not knowing that you have to double bag the celery. tom wouldn't give a **** and just want to be done. eric would try to make excuses of why you're so crazy. you so crazy. but eric is still just as crazy associated with you. tom is limited in his ability to interact with the world because of his experience (over or under) so he sticks to what works best and avoids the crowd. tl,dr: Tom is a recluse. meat is a quack. eii is a cuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 time my padawan rest assured you are actually asking good questions. i have mature material that covers all of that so kudos on finding parts of the right path so far lets see if we can draw out a few more of these oozing sores so that maybe we can address several at once. ppl can only take so much, we have to let them come to it a little on their own first plus even im tired from the effort. i need a little break myself lmao! who says we would let you MC? drunk on sawdust whiskey and fondling your garter belted sheep girlfriend. ive been through that exercise with half my family. it never goes well That's a bad tact. Focus your own points and discuss them on their merit alone. If you try to address too many, you'll no doubt over stretch yourself and insufficiently cover any of them and you will be subsequently picked apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 a fair point ive been doing this a long time so i think i know how to handle that danger. but i will keep your advice in mind the problem is im trying to do two things at the same time: unravel old entrenched bias and lay a new foundation if you try to skip right to the end the old bias will lay in wait and sabotage you in the end. then you have to try to start over, but by then the feeding frenzy has started and the mobbing can overwhelm. such to your point so you really have no choice but to try to tackle them separately ... and at the same time. its tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 a fair point ive been doing this a long time so i think i know how to handle that danger. but i will keep your advice in mind the problem is im trying to do two things at the same time: unravel old entrenched bias and lay a new foundation if you try to skip right to the end the old bias will lay in wait and sabotage you in the end. then you have to try to start over, but by then the feeding frenzy has started and the mobbing can overwhelm. such to your point so you really have no choice but to try to tackle them separately ... and at the same time. its tough meathead. meathead danger. danger is my last name. i fear no man. for i am a head of meat and danger. for no man has known the danger of all the head i have meat. seriously. there is no danger in being wrong on the internet you idiot. when you've been called out over being wrong countless times and how absurd you are...you have dared threaten us with the whole "ima take my ball and bat home because you won't play nice with me." trust me. we don't need you. we can play with ourselves just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 oh beleed me, im wrong a lot. and i dont mind admitting it. actually i already have when i stated i was hyperbolic in stating hillary was the most qualified ever while temporarily forgetting such mega qualified folks as poppy and colin were in the convo but im probably not going to be wrong much about race issues. ive been doing this a loooooong time and ive worked out a great many kinks in the material. you are always welcome to poke holes, and i will plant a slobbery one on your cheek (face) if you can favor me with a revelation on that topic. but you will be hard pressed to find a legitimate cranny in that hardened logic and reason and when i refuse to respond its not bc i dont have enough to talk about. lord knows, right? its bc the person im not responding to is being unreasonable and i know its a waste of time. i cant fix everybody, im going to work with the ppl that are workable meat is a quack. hey ill take quack at this point in many circles im automatically branded a racist just for having the nerve to suggest blacks could be something other than a universal victim. so quack is an improvement woo hoo, progress!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 just a little housecleaning here ... lol! do i reeally have to go back and find some of your posts that diverted the topic of a thread? holy smokes dude There's a difference between hijacking a nonsensical thread with nonsense, and hijacking a thread by making it about race while simultaneously calling all the other people who weren't talking about race "racist." You know who else was obsessed with race but blamed everyone else for it? Hitler... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 you know being snarky is a shtick, it doesnt win debates. logic and reason does earning points my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Lower left is the shift key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Only race issue in this word is azzholes and non azzholes. If your an **** your an **** Otherwise your normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 you know being snarky is a shtick, it doesnt win debates. logic and reason does earning points my friend I'm not trying to win a debate or earn points. I'm mocking your self-righteous attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Edited January 29, 2017 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Speaking of Racial overtones, Confederacy ties and all that nonsense aside, this song is a total banger. Edited January 29, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 A perceived black man? What does that mean? Yeah, I was wondering that as well. It seems to me that too many people place too much emphasis on race. There's an overwhelming amount of pompous in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 I'm not trying to win a debate or earn points. I'm mocking your self-righteous attitude. It's a long line so be prepared to wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 It's a long line so be prepared to wait Gosh, I wish the rest of us were as experienced and knowledgeable as you. Please, continue to pontificate - once you've dealt with that long line first, of course. Good lord, you make Baskin look humble by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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