ExiledInIllinois Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 ...Took 80 year quest: https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Famp%2F38768683#pt0-493040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 ...Took 80 year quest: https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Famp%2F38768683#pt0-493040 Very cold and a lot of pressure I presume. Just how many ex-wives did it take to pull his off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 What a disappointment, at first glance I thought this said Metallica Hydrogen and thought this was a new song or something So on the topic of, ummm, chemistry. Here's Fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 What a disappointment, at first glance I thought this said Metallica Hydrogen and thought this was a new song or something So on the topic of, ummm, chemistry. Here's Fuel LoL... You are such a headbanger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 495 gigapascals?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Where are the Quarks & Leptons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Might have been created. That particular experiment is very sketchy. Personally...I'm very skeptical. They're inferring metallic structure from reflectivity. That's not strictly wrong - reflectivity is caused by conductivity, which is the defining property of a metal. But it's hardly conclusive, since they didn't measure conductivity directly. Simply saying "Oooh, look, shiny!" isn't remotely enough evidence. And nice write-up by the BBC..."Metallic hydrogen might be used in superconducting power grids!" Yeah...near absolute zero, under five million atmosphere of pressure, for very small currents. Hire some science writers who know something about science, you nitwits. (Oh, and this pretty much disproves cold fusion. Finally. If hydrogen compressed at 5 million atmospheres won't fuse, then it's not fusing inside a palladium block at an equivalent 5000 atmospheres.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Might have been created. That particular experiment is very sketchy. Personally...I'm very skeptical. They're inferring metallic structure from reflectivity. That's not strictly wrong - reflectivity is caused by conductivity, which is the defining property of a metal. But it's hardly conclusive, since they didn't measure conductivity directly. Simply saying "Oooh, look, shiny!" isn't remotely enough evidence. And nice write-up by the BBC..."Metallic hydrogen might be used in superconducting power grids!" Yeah...near absolute zero, under five million atmosphere of pressure, for very small currents. Hire some science writers who know something about science, you nitwits. (Oh, and this pretty much disproves cold fusion. Finally. If hydrogen compressed at 5 million atmospheres won't fuse, then it's not fusing inside a palladium block at an equivalent 5000 atmospheres.) Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Might have been created. That particular experiment is very sketchy. Personally...I'm very skeptical. They're inferring metallic structure from reflectivity. That's not strictly wrong - reflectivity is caused by conductivity, which is the defining property of a metal. But it's hardly conclusive, since they didn't measure conductivity directly. Simply saying "Oooh, look, shiny!" isn't remotely enough evidence. And nice write-up by the BBC..."Metallic hydrogen might be used in superconducting power grids!" Yeah...near absolute zero, under five million atmosphere of pressure, for very small currents. Hire some science writers who know something about science, you nitwits. (Oh, and this pretty much disproves cold fusion. Finally. If hydrogen compressed at 5 million atmospheres won't fuse, then it's not fusing inside a palladium block at an equivalent 5000 atmospheres.) To be fair to the writers of the article, they did say that it could be metatsable, so it might retain its properties when brought to less than extreme conditions. Edited January 28, 2017 by snafu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 To be fair to the writers of the article, they did say that it could be metatsable, so it might retain its properties when brought to less than extreme conditions. nerd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Does this mean that global warming is naturally accruing? 100 years the glaciers will cover Buffalo? It's all over my head ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Science > /dev/null This is why so many bright people do not want to go into science - fame What a disappointment, at first glance I thought this said Metallica Hydrogen and thought this was a new song or something I find this fascinating. Hopefully it is repeatable and verifiable. Proud owner of patent licensed by 13 companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 There's plenty of metallic hydrogen at Jupiter's core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Very cool. This is from this week as well: http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-just-announced-a-brand-new-form-of-matter-time-crystals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 What a disappointment, at first glance I thought this said Metallica Hydrogen and thought this was a new song or something So on the topic of, ummm, chemistry. Here's Fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Very cool. This is from this week as well: http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-just-announced-a-brand-new-form-of-matter-time-crystals I just found a new nickname for my son. He's also in constant motion, even at equilibrium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 What a disappointment, at first glance I thought this said Metallica Hydrogen and thought this was a new song or something So on the topic of, ummm, chemistry. Here's Fuel hydrogen metal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnCl0oXjqIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Might have been created. That particular experiment is very sketchy. Personally...I'm very skeptical. They're inferring metallic structure from reflectivity. That's not strictly wrong - reflectivity is caused by conductivity, which is the defining property of a metal. But it's hardly conclusive, since they didn't measure conductivity directly. Simply saying "Oooh, look, shiny!" isn't remotely enough evidence. And nice write-up by the BBC..."Metallic hydrogen might be used in superconducting power grids!" Yeah...near absolute zero, under five million atmosphere of pressure, for very small currents. Hire some science writers who know something about science, you nitwits. Like duh! Of course! Being skeptical is a good thing, everybody will be trying to duplicate it. A good thing, a lot of other findings may come out of it. In these quests for this a bunch of other discoveries were found (different states of water, etc...) Or, you are just pissed because: Let me guess? Sour grapes because they beat you to it? You had your apparatus all polished up and ready to take it down to 5psi... You were just waiting for the outside temp to reach below freezing in DC. ;-) It explained and I didn't miss what metastable was. I think like a diamond made from graphite under heat and pressure. With metal H, they theorize w/the return to ambient temp/pressure, it will remain as a metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Like duh! Of course! Being skeptical is a good thing, everybody will be trying to duplicate it. A good thing, a lot of other findings may come out of it. In these quests for this a bunch of other discoveries were found (different states of water, etc...) Or, you are just pissed because: Let me guess? Sour grapes because they beat you to it? You had your apparatus all polished up and ready to take it down to 5psi... You were just waiting for the outside temp to reach below freezing in DC. ;-) It explained and I didn't miss what metastable was. I think like a diamond made from graphite under heat and pressure. With metal H, they theorize w/the return to ambient temp/pressure, it will remain as a metal. Actually, they don't theorize that. The BBC theorizes that. Because - as i said - ****ty science writing. No one reputable believes that, as one look at the phase diagram for hydrogen shows there's no transition of temperature or pressure that won't cause metallic hydrogen to either sublimate or change to a molecular solid or liquid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Actually, they don't theorize that. The BBC theorizes that. Because - as i said - ****ty science writing. No one reputable believes that, as one look at the phase diagram for hydrogen shows there's no transition of temperature or pressure that won't cause metallic hydrogen to either sublimate or change to a molecular solid or liquid. Interesting. Your bike compressor broke? Dry ice melted... So harsh! Such a little chubby you got? :-P :-P Changing/grinding gears a little here. You think that Harvard (was it Harvard?) lab still has it under pressure/temp? 495 whatever/8 degrees away from ab zero. ?? I kinda got the impression they weren't releasing it... Like poof! LoL or is it already up in smoke? Is it even possible to keep it locked and others look @ it. Naive, I know! Yes, I am a lay idiot. Go easy on me. But, I stayed @ a Holiday Inn Express last night if it helps! Anyway... I can't blame them for staking a claim and floating it out there for everyone. Like hitting the buzzer early in Jeopardy! & possibly having to fumble for an answer (in the form of a question though of course). ;-) ;-) :-) Edited January 29, 2017 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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