dave mcbride Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 No offense dude, but step up your game. This is cr*ptastic arguing. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Forget Bridgewater. Head to Washington to work on Cousins. Did not see Teddy (YET!), but damn the new stadium is nice AF. It's yuuuge... Seems a little strange with dirt jumps and park / street skate course taking up the field, but it's a beautiful building. The Windows on the roof are a double pane plastic that they can inflate to knock the snow off - interesting tech. Met some of the Vikings FO staff too, nice people (even the girl from Green Bay who's not allowed to wear green to work, ever 😂). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 No offense dude, but step up your game. This is cr*ptastic arguing. Seriously. He asked me my point. He was confused. QB rushing yard stats are irrelevant and more associated with losing than winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 He asked me my point. He was confused. QB rushing yard stats are irrelevant and more associated with losing than winning. yeah... thats like... your opinion man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 yeah... thats like... your opinion man. No, that's the facts. Last year 4 of the top 10 QB's by rushing yards made the playoffs. 5 of the top 10 QB's by rushing yards finished with a losing record. It's a useless stat. It's irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 No, that's the facts. Last year 4 of the top 10 QB's by rushing yards made the playoffs. 5 of the top 10 QB's by rushing yards finished with a losing record. It's a useless stat. It's irrelevant. All i did was add the numbers together to compare tyrods numbers to bridgewaters... but i get your point. Tyrod is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 All i did was add the numbers together to compare tyrods numbers to bridgewaters... but i get your point. Tyrod is terrible. I didn't even compare Teddy to TT! I just said that using a QB's rushing total to say one is better than the other makes no sense. Because it's a useless stat more associated with losing than winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I didn't even compare Teddy to TT! I just said that using a QB's rushing total to say one is better than the other makes no sense. Because it's a useless stat more associated with losing than winning. This is a post about Teddy Bridgewater... I brought up comparisons between their numbers. Tyrod threw for fewer yards, but ran for more yards. In the end, they gained similar yardage totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I didn't even compare Teddy to TT! I just said that using a QB's rushing total to say one is better than the other makes no sense. Because it's a useless stat more associated with losing than winning.you are literally wrong. If five of the top 10 rushing and had losing records that means exactly half of them were associated with losing and the other five were not. It makes no sense that the stat is meaningless AND it's associated more with losing. The second concept gives meaning to the stat. And if you believe Russell Wilson and Cam Newton running had nothing to do with their teams winning then there's truly no point in listening to your opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 you are literally wrong. If five of the top 10 rushing and had losing records that means exactly half of them were associated with losing and the other five were not. It makes no sense that the stat is meaningless AND it's associated more with losing. The second concept gives meaning to the stat. And if you believe Russell Wilson and Cam Newton running had nothing to do with their teams winning then there's truly no point in listening to your opinions. thank you. I felt the post was way out in left field as well but considering the source, not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 you are literally wrong. If five of the top 10 rushing and had losing records that means exactly half of them were associated with losing and the other five were not. It makes no sense that the stat is meaningless AND it's associated more with losing. The second concept gives meaning to the stat. And if you believe Russell Wilson and Cam Newton running had nothing to do with their teams winning then there's truly no point in listening to your opinions. It's associated more with losing than making the playoffs. Sorry should've been more clear. It's meaningless when trying to prop somebody up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 It's associated more with losing than making the playoffs. Sorry should've been more clear. It's meaningless when trying to prop somebody up. It isn't meaningless. How can you possibly say that someone's football skill is meaningless to his evaluation as a player? Is jumping ability meaningless to a pass receiver? Is catching ability meaningless to a running back? Cam Newton is a TOTALLY average quarterback without his running ability. His running ability "props him up" into the near-elite category. As for losing vs making the playoffs, well, more teams have losing records than make the playoffs, so EVERYTHING is more associated with losing than making the playoffs. What you're saying is just stupid. Better that you just recognize it than continue to try to defend something that's stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 He asked me my point. He was confused. QB rushing yard stats are irrelevant and more associated with losing than winning. I'm with you on this. How on earth could a players actual contributions to the team be relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I'm with you on this. How on earth could a players actual contributions to the team be relevant? When Tyrod runs into the end zone the refs just throw the ball to the other team and everyone moves on to the next drive. No points are added and no one celebrates. Pretty weird rule but I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runninrams Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) It isn't meaningless. How can you possibly say that someone's football skill is meaningless to his evaluation as a player? Is jumping ability meaningless to a pass receiver? Is catching ability meaningless to a running back? Cam Newton is a TOTALLY average quarterback without his running ability. His running ability "props him up" into the near-elite category. As for losing vs making the playoffs, well, more teams have losing records than make the playoffs, so EVERYTHING is more associated with losing than making the playoffs. What you're saying is just stupid. Better that you just recognize it than continue to try to defend something that's stupid. so, what does that make Taylor? Newton's lowest passing yards in 1 year: 3,127 Taylor's highest passing yards in 1 year: 3,035 Newton's lowest passing TD in 1 year: 18 Taylor's highest passing TD in 1 year: 20 Edited July 14, 2017 by Runninrams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I'm with you on this. How on earth could a players actual contributions to the team be relevant? Huh? When Tyrod runs into the end zone the refs just throw the ball to the other team and everyone moves on to the next drive. No points are added and no one celebrates. Pretty weird rule but I get it. Remember when you tried to tell me QB rushing yards was associated with the playoffs? Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 It's almost as dumb as people bitching about Tyrod and the offense being top 7 in scoring offense but "Tyrod needs more passing touchdowns!" Forgot about the rule that passing touchdowns count for more points.... Tyrod needs to score more than the #19th QB, regardless of how good Shady McCoy is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) It's almost as dumb as people bitching about Tyrod and the offense being top 7 in scoring offense but "Tyrod needs more passing touchdowns!" Forgot about the rule that passing touchdowns count for more points....This is amongst my biggest pet peeves on here. I don't care if every TD is a 1 yard run by Dareus. It counts the same as a 99 yard TD pass.Tyrod needs to score more than the #19th QB, regardless of how good Shady McCoy is.The offense was the 7th highest scoring offense in the league through 16 weeks. Edited July 14, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 This is amongst my biggest pet peeves on here. I don't care if every TD is a 1 yard run by Dareus. It counts the same as a 99 yard TD pass. The offense was the 7th highest scoring offense in the league through 16 weeks. That's nice. I forgot "TT" and "the offense" became synonymous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) That's nice. I forgot "TT" and "the offense" became synonymous. Nobody touches the ball on offense more than Tyrod. (and the center I suppose) Edited July 14, 2017 by BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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