section122 Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) This came up in another thread. The question posed was how much did each win cost in QB salary. I didn't quite follow it but I took the positional group as a whole and divided it by wins. Here are the results: Team Cost Wins Total Den 2,261,158 9 251,240 Oak 4,623,009 12 385,251 Tenn 7,534,058 9 837,118 TB 8,192,029 9 910,225 NE 15,245,534 14 1,088,967 Mia 13,174,117 10 1,317,412 Phi 9,850,243 7 1,407,178 Buff 10,292,562 7 1,470,366 Minn 12,583,908 8 1,572,989 Hous 14,412,646 9 1,601,405 KC 20,170,000 12 1,680,833 Dallas 24,140,848 13 1,856,988 Seattle 18,997,000 10 1,899,700 GB 19,910,318 10 1,991,032 NYJ 10,107,897 5 2,021,579 PITT 25,334,805 11 2,303,164 ATL 25,500,000 11 2,318,182 NYG 25,588,400 11 2,326,218 LAR 9,453,311 4 2,363,328 Cin 14,195,413 6 2,365,902 Indy 19,900,000 8 2,487,500 Det 23,338,820 9 2,593,202 NO 18,500,000 7 2,642,857 Wash 22,237,333 8 2,779,667 Ariz 20,967,646 7 2,995,378 Balt 24,050,000 8 3,006,250 SD 17,180,000 5 3,436,000 Jax 10,864,198 3 3,621,399 Car 22,310,000 6 3,718,333 Chi 20,140,352 3 6,713,451 SF 20,228,753 2 10,114,377 Cle 11,022,378 1 11,022,378 522306736 254 2,056,326 Some interesting things: bottom 3 teams per win are the top 3 teams picking. Part of that is because of the small number fo wins but in the case of Chicago and SF they have quite a bit of money tied up in subpar qbs. The average is just over 2 million per win. Only 4 of the playoff teams went over the average. The other 8 were under. The best win:cost ratio were for 4 teams that have rookie qb contracts. NE being 5th is just criminal. IMO part of what makes Brady so good is his willingness to take less money than his competitors to help have a better team around him. Flacco got paid and his team is now terrible because of it. If Buffalo extends Tyrod and has his cap hit of 17 million while winning 17 games they would be at the 10th highest cost per win. If they were to improve to 9 wins they would drop all the way to 19th. Edited January 26, 2017 by section122
Wayne Arnold Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 This came up in another thread. The question posed was how much did each win cost in QB salary. I didn't quite follow it but I took the positional group as a whole and divided it by wins. Here are the results: Team Cost Wins Total Den 2,261,158 9 251,240 Oak 4,623,009 12 385,251 Tenn 7,534,058 9 837,118 TB 8,192,029 9 910,225 NE 15,245,534 14 1,088,967 Mia 13,174,117 10 1,317,412 Phi 9,850,243 7 1,407,178 Buff 10,292,562 7 1,470,366 Minn 12,583,908 8 1,572,989 Hous 14,412,646 9 1,601,405 KC 20,170,000 12 1,680,833 Dallas 24,140,848 13 1,856,988 Seattle 18,997,000 10 1,899,700 GB 19,910,318 10 1,991,032 NYJ 10,107,897 5 2,021,579 PITT 25,334,805 11 2,303,164 ATL 25,500,000 11 2,318,182 NYG 25,588,400 11 2,326,218 LAR 9,453,311 4 2,363,328 Cin 14,195,413 6 2,365,902 Indy 19,900,000 8 2,487,500 Det 23,338,820 9 2,593,202 NO 18,500,000 7 2,642,857 Wash 22,237,333 8 2,779,667 Ariz 20,967,646 7 2,995,378 Balt 24,050,000 8 3,006,250 SD 17,180,000 5 3,436,000 Jax 10,864,198 3 3,621,399 Car 22,310,000 6 3,718,333 Chi 20,140,352 3 6,713,451 SF 20,228,753 2 10,114,377 Cle 11,022,378 1 11,022,378 522306736 254 2,056,326 Dude...
section122 Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) why is it so hard to paste and post a table! Anyone know how to do it? Edited January 26, 2017 by section122
Dorkington Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) Team Cost Wins Total Den 2,261,158 9 251,240 Oak 4,623,009 12 385,251 Tenn 7,534,058 9 837,118 TB 8,192,029 9 910,225 NE 15,245,534 14 1,088,967 Mia 13,174,117 10 1,317,412 Phi 9,850,243 7 1,407,178 Buff 10,292,562 7 1,470,366 Minn 12,583,908 8 1,572,989 Hous 14,412,646 9 1,601,405 KC 20,170,000 12 1,680,833 Dal 24,140,848 13 1,856,988 Sea 18,997,000 10 1,899,700 GB 19,910,318 10 1,991,032 NYJ 10,107,897 5 2,021,579 PITT 25,334,805 11 2,303,164 ATL 25,500,000 11 2,318,182 NYG 25,588,400 11 2,326,218 LAR 9,453,311 4 2,363,328 Cin 14,195,413 6 2,365,902 Indy 19,900,000 8 2,487,500 Det 23,338,820 9 2,593,202 NO 18,500,000 7 2,642,857 Wash 22,237,333 8 2,779,667 Ariz 20,967,646 7 2,995,378 Balt 24,050,000 8 3,006,250 SD 17,180,000 5 3,436,000 Jax 10,864,198 3 3,621,399 Car 22,310,000 6 3,718,333 Chi 20,140,352 3 6,713,451 SF 20,228,753 2 10,114,377 Cle 11,022,378 1 11,022,378 Edited January 26, 2017 by Dorkington
section122 Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) How?!?!? but thank you! Edited January 26, 2017 by section122
Dorkington Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) How?!?!? but thank you! Use the 'code' function... looks like <> on the toolbar of the post editor. Helps to paste your table into Notepad or Textedit on your computer, and make sure everything is tabbed correctly first too. Feel free to copy/paste my post into yours (hit Quote first, then copy that, instead of just directly from the page) Edited January 26, 2017 by Dorkington
Augie Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 How?!?!? but thank you! Yes, that saved my head from exploding, so Thank You indeed!
section122 Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) Yes, that saved my head from exploding, so Thank You indeed! I fixed it in the op. You can now come to this thread unafraid! Edited January 26, 2017 by section122
Cereal Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Awesome, thanks for putting this together. This makes it look like: It's best to win 10+ games, and worst to win 3 or less games. Hmmmmmm... Also: Is NYJ at $10.1MM accurate? I'm not trying to sound ungrateful, I promise!
Kirby Jackson Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Just out of curiosity 122 did you do it by start? I.e. did you use Matt Moore's per game salary for the games that he started?
Augie Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) Young, first contract QB's at the top until you get to......New England? Did Brady move $$$ out of this year because he was going to miss 1/4? Because he didn't play? Hmmm. But 3 of the last 4 teams are middle of the pack. A QB on a fair deal who won a bunch of games. Edited January 26, 2017 by Augie
Jauronimo Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 I think we either need to win more or dock Taylor's pay. Maybe we should win more games?
Augie Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 I think we either need to win more or dock Taylor's pay. Maybe we should win more games? Let's put it to a vote!
section122 Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 Just out of curiosity 122 did you do it by start? I.e. did you use Matt Moore's per game salary for the games that he started? No unfortunately I didn't break it down like that. I can't waste that much time at work!
Kirby Jackson Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 No unfortunately I didn't break it down like that. I can't waste that much time at work! I figured but just thought I'd ask
boyst Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 not one team in the top 10 for losses finished better than 8-8 and only two of them (Flacco and Brees) have won a Super Bowl. Both are up and down year in and year out.
BringBackFergy Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Very misleading data on NE's salary/win ratio...it doesn't take into account the bj's and hj's Brady gives to Kraft and Ernie Adams on a weekly basis. This explains his renegotiated contract.
ndirish1978 Posted January 27, 2017 Posted January 27, 2017 Use the 'code' function... looks like <> on the toolbar of the post editor. Helps to paste your table into Notepad or Textedit on your computer, and make sure everything is tabbed correctly first too. Feel free to copy/paste my post into yours (hit Quote first, then copy that, instead of just directly from the page) It may be a good idea for a stickied tutorial on this stuff. I see people not using these functions correctly all the time.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 27, 2017 Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Dude... This was exactly what I thought when I looked at that first post attempt...classic Edited January 27, 2017 by atlbillsfan1975
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