Mr. WEO Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 wish I could remember where I read it, but Clemson's coach Dabo Swinney said that "whoever passes on Watson is passing on Footballs Micheal Jordan" I think he said "Baseball's Michael Jordan". With that accent, it was hard to tell...
aristocrat Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 wish I could remember where I read it, but Clemson's coach Dabo Swinney said that "whoever passes on Watson is passing on Footballs Micheal Jordan" i posted it in the pinned prospects thread but it was front page on espn where i got it from
Tsaikotic Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 I think he said "Baseball's Michael Jordan". With that accent, it was hard to tell... LOL..could be true
Augie Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 Mike Mayock described EJ as a piece of clay What does Mayock have against clay?
PromoTheRobot Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 Although he was mocked to the Bills by many people, I don't think anyone was saying he was a bargain. Just saying that Nassib, Geno Smith and Matt Barkley were the Watson, Mahomes and Trubisky of 2013. All the hype on them in mocks had them going in Rd 1. Agents and media with a lot of time to fill before late April.
Like A Mofo Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 Way too early to speculate on where Watson will be drafted. Remember when Matt Barkley was supposed to be a #1 overall pick and then he went through the combine, workouts etc and by draft time he was nowhere near the 1st round? How many examples do we need to show that great college success does not have a huge play in NFL success. Revisit this after FA and March 11th. I can't see the Bills keeping Tyrod and then drafting Watson at #10. That could be chaos for the locker room.
Mr. WEO Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 Just saying that Nassib, Geno Smith and Matt Barkley were the Watson, Mahomes and Trubisky of 2013. All the hype on them in mocks had them going in Rd 1. Agents and media with a lot of time to fill before late April. That's what they had to work with. What did you expect them to do, ignore the position of QB for the runup to the draft? I don't understand this criticism.
FireChan Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) Just saying that Nassib, Geno Smith and Matt Barkley were the Watson, Mahomes and Trubisky of 2013. All the hype on them in mocks had them going in Rd 1. Agents and media with a lot of time to fill before late April. Wrong again. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1000000162248/article/2013-nfl-draft-sevenround-mock-forecasts-every-pick-1-to-254 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1610053-2013-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-final-7-round-predictions http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/4/8/4192860/2013-nfl-mock-draft-three-rounds-geno-smith-tavon-austin Edited January 25, 2017 by FireChan
Marty McFly Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 wish I could remember where I read it, but Clemson's coach Dabo Swinney said that "whoever passes on Watson is passing on Footballs Micheal Jordan" Things like this, and the championship game are why I highly doubt Watson falls to us at 10. With all the missing pieces on our roster, I dont see us trading the farm for him either.
DrDawkinstein Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 he's the guy i really like. i mean he has the work ethic, the athleticism, the head on his shoulders etc. I've been listening to the experts lately whenever theyre asked about scouting a QB. Polian just did a piece for example. Here is what the good ones look for: Quick release - Does he make decisions quickly, and does he get the ball out quickly once he makes that decision? Accuracy - Once the ball is out, how is the placement? I'm not sure how Watson measures up in those categories, but none of the other traits matter as much. Work ethic, head on shoulders are important, sure. But we don't have access to interviews, and I'll still take a Cutler over a Manuel.
MAJBobby Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 I would not trade up I don't think. But if he is there at 10 yes I take him.
Kirby Jackson Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 Way too early to speculate on where Watson will be drafted. Remember when Matt Barkley was supposed to be a #1 overall pick and then he went through the combine, workouts etc and by draft time he was nowhere near the 1st round? How many examples do we need to show that great college success does not have a huge play in NFL success. Revisit this after FA and March 11th. I can't see the Bills keeping Tyrod and then drafting Watson at #10. That could be chaos for the locker room. Watson was also projected to go high. The difference is that he finished his career with an all-time great performance. He will trend up because of it (like Vince Young did). He played his best football late in games and in his biggest games. People won't overlook that. I will be very surprised if he isn't taken in the 1st 40 picks. He isn't a guy that will fall to the middle of the draft. He may not fall to the middle of the 1st.
jeffismagic Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 Watson was throwing to a group of NFL receivers at Clemson. He's not a bad prospect but he's not a top ten pick.
Mr. WEO Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 I've been listening to the experts lately whenever theyre asked about scouting a QB. Polian just did a piece for example. Here is what the good ones look for: Quick release - Does he make decisions quickly, and does he get the ball out quickly once he makes that decision? Accuracy - Once the ball is out, how is the placement? I'm not sure how Watson measures up in those categories, but none of the other traits matter as much. Work ethic, head on shoulders are important, sure. But we don't have access to interviews, and I'll still take a Cutler over a Manuel. They said that , coming out of Tenn., Manning could place balls on a trainers face from 3 inches away...
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 By this time in 2013 the Barkley train had derailed. People were still talking about Geno as a possible choice at #1 until the Chiefs traded for the other Smith. Then it was pretty consistent to see mocks with only 1 QB in round one.... and that person (about whom there was no consensus - Barkley, Geno, EJ, Nassib, Gelnnon were all mentioned) was mocked to the Bills.
Herb62 Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 Problem is the Bills have been known to turn clay into a turd. Yes like Pitt CB that we cut and is now a big deal the guy from Duke.
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 Watson was throwing to a group of NFL receivers at Clemson. He's not a bad prospect but he's not a top ten pick. For a group of NFL receivers they sure drop the ball a lot.
RyanC883 Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 I'd perfer Mahommes from Tex. Tech in the Second. Ideal draft: Williams in 1st, Mahommes in 2nd. Yes like Pitt CB that we cut and is now a big deal the guy from Duke. Never understood why we cut him.
MAJBobby Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 I'd perfer Mahommes from Tex. Tech in the Second. Ideal draft: Williams in 1st, Mahommes in 2nd. Never understood why we cut him. Think by the end of the Process though Mahomes will be in the 1st
PatsFanNH Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 wish I could remember where I read it, but Clemson's coach Dabo Swinney said that "whoever passes on Watson is passing on Footballs Micheal Jordan" I saw that too, and I thought that was the dumbest thing I ever heard. Way out WAY WAY to much pressure on the kid let's make him a great before snap one. Why not just say "the most talented QB I have ever seen.." truthful and not WAY out there..
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