Deranged Rhino Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) You're a conspiracy guy. Forgive me for not descending into the depths of your secret lair to combat Hydra. I quoted the IC statement. Over and over. You responded with pages of stuff that I mostly ignored. That's honest. That's the thing with you, you've always got an excuse to explain away your dishonesty. It's shameful. Or would be if you cared at all about being honest, which you clearly do not. You misquoted the IC statement and scope by repeatedly saying it represented the view of the entire IC -- which it did not and never did. You also said it constituted hard proof, which it most certainly did not. It lacked hard evidence and instead relied upon speculation and assumptions made by the same people who lied about NSA spying and WMDs in Iraq. It was also compiled by the same folks 45 made no bones about his desire to fire, giving them plenty of reasons to misconstrue the truth in the hopes of convincing the simple minded that Russia is a bigger threat than they actually are. Taking their words at face value simply because they're in a position of authority doesn't make you smart. It makes you... well, you. A misinformed, dishonest, and completely disingenuous poster. Edited February 10, 2017 by Deranged Rhino
Tiberius Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 That's the thing with you, you've always got an excuse to explain away your dishonesty. It's shameful. Or would be if you cared at all about being honest, which you clearly do not. You misquoted the IC statement and scope by repeatedly saying it represented the view of the entire IC -- which it did not and never did. You also said it constituted hard proof, which it most certainly did not. It lacked hard evidence and instead relied upon speculation and assumptions made by the same people who lied about NSA spying and WMDs in Iraq. It was also compiled by the same folks 45 made no bones about his desire to fire, giving them plenty of reasons to misconstrue the truth in the hopes of convincing the simple minded that Russia is a bigger threat than they actually are. Taking their words at face value simply because they're in a position of authority doesn't make you smart. It makes you... well, you. A misinformed, dishonest, and completely disingenuous poster.
DC Tom Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Don't laugh, shitbird. You're that statement on steroids.
TPS Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Honest question: how can the yuan realistically become the primary world currency reserve when Beijing's monetary policy explicitly pegs it to the USD? It's not formally tied to the USD any longer, rather they manage it relative to a basket of currencies, heavily weighted by the $ of course. The yuan is the logical choice to become the next reserve currency, and IF the Chinese want that, it will be a gradual process. It surely won't happen until capital controls are eliminated and they open up their financial system. One step forward is the creation of the Asian Development Bank. The yuan was also recently given reserve status by the IMF. Regarding "breaking the pound," that was done by US as an "incentive" to get England (and France) to cede back the Suez canal in 1956.
Tiberius Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Don't laugh, shitbird. You're that statement on steroids. shitbird?
Tiberius Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 It's not formally tied to the USD any longer, rather they manage it relative to a basket of currencies, heavily weighted by the $ of course. The yuan is the logical choice to become the next reserve currency, and IF the Chinese want that, it will be a gradual process. It surely won't happen until capital controls are eliminated and they open up their financial system. One step forward is the creation of the Asian Development Bank. The yuan was also recently given reserve status by the IMF. Regarding "breaking the pound," that was done by US as an "incentive" to get England (and France) to cede back the Suez canal in 1956. Does anyone how stable their system is? Does the communist party run a tight ship on regulating its banks. Such a big, important system yet no democratic input to checking for corruption.
Benjamin Franklin Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 That's the thing with you, you've always got an excuse to explain away your dishonesty. It's shameful. Or would be if you cared at all about being honest, which you clearly do not. You misquoted the IC statement and scope by repeatedly saying it represented the view of the entire IC -- which it did not and never did. You also said it constituted hard proof, which it most certainly did not. It lacked hard evidence and instead relied upon speculation and assumptions made by the same people who lied about NSA spying and WMDs in Iraq. It was also compiled by the same folks 45 made no bones about his desire to fire, giving them plenty of reasons to misconstrue the truth in the hopes of convincing the simple minded that Russia is a bigger threat than they actually are. Taking their words at face value simply because they're in a position of authority doesn't make you smart. It makes you... well, you. A misinformed, dishonest, and completely disingenuous poster. So the USIC didn't make a statement on Russian hacking? And that statement wasn't backed by senators who had been briefed on the details? Even Trump? I can't imagine why the intel community won't reveal their secrets. Waaah. Sure, I'll believe you and your secret sources. Please post again how the intel community squabbles and miss the point.
Tiberius Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 U.S. Federal Reserve Vice Chair Stanley Fischer said there was significant uncertainty about U.S. fiscal policy under the Trump administration, but the Fed would be strict in meeting targets of creating full employment and getting inflation to 2 percent. Speaking at the Warwick Economics Summit on Saturday, Fischer also said he thought Dodd-Frank financial regulation would not be repealed as a whole, and he hoped capital requirements for banks would not be significantly reduced. http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15Q0G0?utm_campaign%3DtrueAnthem:%2BTrending%2BContent%26utm_content%3D589f130804d3014076d1222d%26utm_medium%3DtrueAnthem
Deranged Rhino Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 So the USIC didn't make a statement on Russian hacking? And that statement wasn't backed by senators who had been briefed on the details? The United States Intelligence Community has never made a unified statement, despite your claims to the contrary. Your comments and understanding of exactly what that report said and whom it was written by was and continues to be inaccurate. The fact you haven't realized that, and instead double down on the testimony of a known perjurer as your arbitrator of truth ... ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vFOax-Zzc ) ... shows how little you actually understand about the IC and how it functions. You would think someone who is trying to argue the position that the IC holds would actually know a thing or two about the IC in the first place. But honesty isn't your bag. Nor is logical reasoning. I can't imagine why the intel community won't reveal their secrets. Waaah. Sure, I'll believe you and your secret sources. Please post again how the intel community squabbles and miss the point. You keep using terms you clearly do not understand. Like "intel community" as if it's a uniformed and unified entity. It is not. This isn't about revealing methods or sources, it's about reading. If you read what was actually put out by the 2 agencies (not 17), you'll see there's literally nothing but hearsay and unnamed sources hinting at a speculative connection they themselves won't even commit to. If you look deeper into the sources you see they're weighing their assessment on the location of IP addresses (which can be easily duped -- and by the very nature of how FSB/GRU function, if the IP addresses were that easy to trace back to Russia then the odds are it's not Russian intelligence services behind it) and the testimony of paid informants working for opposition research. You flawed reasoning also completely excludes the previous two years of geopolitics from your analysis. It's hard to see what's happening when you're operating in the dark. Certain factions of the IC have been pushing the Bear as the number one threat since at least 2011. That these same factions of the IC are now the ones pumping out the anti-Russian hysteria in relation to the election results should be a giant red flag to anyone with a functioning prefrontal cortex. That's why your analysis of this whole series of events is fatally flawed. You've let your own confirmation bias run amok instead of focusing on the evidence. And, when you're called out for your inability to coherently follow a thread, you lash out with lies like "secret sources" and making stuff up about what I believe and hoping that distracts from your own ignorance. That's a shame.
B-Man Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 In what looks like a desperate attempt to find something negative to report about President Trump’s expressed goal of bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States, CNN is covering the plight of Mexicans who may lose their factory jobs in Mexico if Trump succeeds. The sob story is published under the headline: This Mexican mom’s big fear: Trump will take my job. Hilda Roldan just wants a better life for her four kids. She always works overtime at a noisy textile factory here in Puebla, Mexico so her kids can get a college degree and don’t have to endure the same hard work. “I wouldn’t like this work for them…I want the best for them. That’s why I stay an extra hour [at work] so they can move ahead,” Roldan told CNN’s Leyla Santiago while wiping away tears. Americans should be ashamed of themselves for needing jobs. Think about all the Mexicans who will be hurt if Americans find gainful employment.
Chef Jim Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 In what looks like a desperate attempt to find something negative to report about President Trump’s expressed goal of bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States, CNN is covering the plight of Mexicans who may lose their factory jobs in Mexico if Trump succeeds. The sob story is published under the headline: This Mexican mom’s big fear: Trump will take my job. Hilda Roldan just wants a better life for her four kids. She always works overtime at a noisy textile factory here in Puebla, Mexico so her kids can get a college degree and don’t have to endure the same hard work. “I wouldn’t like this work for them…I want the best for them. That’s why I stay an extra hour [at work] so they can move ahead,” Roldan told CNN’s Leyla Santiago while wiping away tears. Americans should be ashamed of themselves for needing jobs. Think about all the Mexicans who will be hurt if Americans find gainful employment. So by bringing manufacturing jobs here will that attract even more Mexicans to come here illegally?
keepthefaith Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 So by bringing manufacturing jobs here will that attract even more Mexicans to come here illegally? Mexico has done a terrible job developing their economy.
Chef Jim Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 Mexico has done a terrible job developing their economy. They've done a terrible job of developing anything. Well they did a grand job developing the cartels.
TPS Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 They've done a terrible job of developing anything. Well they did a grand job developing the cartels. The cartels are kind of like Wall Street banks, they siphon away the best talent because that's where the money is...
Tiberius Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 http://nbr.com/2017/02/22/the-immigration-impact-on-the-agriculture-industry/ Immigrants and the economy. Truth seems to be we need more immigrants, not less. Its funny to hear the Trump people talk about 4% growth yet trying to stop workers from entering the country. Just so stupid. Impossible to do both
Chef Jim Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 http://nbr.com/2017/02/22/the-immigration-impact-on-the-agriculture-industry/ Immigrants and the economy. Truth seems to be we need more immigrants, not less. Its funny to hear the Trump people talk about 4% growth yet trying to stop workers from entering the country. Just so stupid. Impossible to do both You know the best way to make the undocum......I'm sorry illegal immigrants working the fields legal?
Tiberius Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 You know the best way to make the undocum......I'm sorry illegal immigrants working the fields legal? Change the law
Tiberius Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Nope. Yes, ummmm....change those people from illegal to legal?
Chef Jim Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Yes, ummmm....change those people from illegal to legal? Yes. And the ability to do so has been in place for a very long time. We just need to follow and expand the immigration programs that are already in place. Edited February 27, 2017 by Chef Jim
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