3rdnlng Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/04/25/605092520/high-paying-trade-jobs-sit-empty-while-high-school-grads-line-up-for-university?fbclid=IwAR1FnwukgeR0dCONunRyGSBqfWOfMfQ8bwsYDDsnixweoWq-6bgdd7u0sos Like most other American high school students, Garret Morgan had it drummed into him constantly: Go to college. Get a bachelor's degree. "All through my life it was, 'if you don't go to college you're going to end up on the streets,' " Morgan said. "Everybody's so gung-ho about going to college." So he tried it for a while. Then he quit and started training as an ironworker, which is what he is doing on a weekday morning in a nondescript high-ceilinged building with a concrete floor in an industrial park near the Seattle-Tacoma International Airport. Morgan and several other men and women are dressed in work boots, hard hats and Carhartt's, clipped to safety harnesses with heavy wrenches hanging from their belts. They're being timed as they wrestle 600-pound I-beams into place. Seattle is a forest of construction cranes, and employers are clamoring for skilled ironworkers. Morgan, who is 20, is already working on a job site when he isn't at the Pacific Northwest Ironworkers shop. He gets benefits, including a pension, from employers at the job sites where he is training. And he is earning $28.36 an hour, or more than $50,000 a year, which is almost certain to steadily increase. 3
Chef Jim Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/04/25/605092520/high-paying-trade-jobs-sit-empty-while-high-school-grads-line-up-for-university?fbclid=IwAR1FnwukgeR0dCONunRyGSBqfWOfMfQ8bwsYDDsnixweoWq-6bgdd7u0sos Like most other American high school students, Garret Morgan had it drummed into him constantly: Go to college. Get a bachelor's degree. "All through my life it was, 'if you don't go to college you're going to end up on the streets,' " Morgan said. "Everybody's so gung-ho about going to college." So he tried it for a while. Then he quit and started training as an ironworker, which is what he is doing on a weekday morning in a nondescript high-ceilinged building with a concrete floor in an industrial park near the Seattle-Tacoma International Airport. Morgan and several other men and women are dressed in work boots, hard hats and Carhartt's, clipped to safety harnesses with heavy wrenches hanging from their belts. They're being timed as they wrestle 600-pound I-beams into place. Seattle is a forest of construction cranes, and employers are clamoring for skilled ironworkers. Morgan, who is 20, is already working on a job site when he isn't at the Pacific Northwest Ironworkers shop. He gets benefits, including a pension, from employers at the job sites where he is training. And he is earning $28.36 an hour, or more than $50,000 a year, which is almost certain to steadily increase. Funny. I was talking to a guy many years who sold REIT’s and said when you see lots of cranes on the horizon it’s time to sell. Up until now that has always been the case.
Koko78 Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 17 hours ago, CoudyBills said: Don't forget all the people that died due to changes to ACA, the North Korea nuclear missile strikes, and the 42 degree increase in global warming due to #Orangemanbad. Yeah, I listened to Todd Herman today. Frankly amazing we could produce such numbers with 1/3 the people. hahha Hey, we survived losing WWIII to Iran, we'll survive the rest. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Funny. I was talking to a guy many years who sold REIT’s and said when you see lots of cranes on the horizon it’s time to sell. Up until now that has always been the case. ...we are Union contractors and the trades are woefully short.....local Electrical union has allowed retirees to come back to work without jeopardizing their pension (7 months so far).....they usually retire at 55 on about $4,000/mo.......so now they earning $4,000+/month more...problem is they haven't been on a ladder or working 8 hrs/day for 3-5 years....hence there's ring rust as well as susceptibility to worker's comp injury...Electricals still use the archaic system of signing the book...so even the bottle of the barrel garbage is working.....if we need three guys and the first two available are known garbage, we have to take them for a day and spin them right back as a layoff....we pay 100% of their health care, fully fund their pension and annuity......retire at 55 with $4,000+/mo pension and $500,000-$750,000 in their annuity if invested properly.......yet no new apprentices signing up... Edited January 18, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 2 1
Tiberius Posted January 20, 2020 Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 6:51 PM, Koko78 said: Keep rooting for that recession, buddy! Maybe someday it will happen, and all your liberal dreams can come true! It’s going to happen. No need to root for it. Longest expansion in history, sort of means the end is not too far off.
RochesterRob Posted January 20, 2020 Posted January 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It’s going to happen. No need to root for it. Longest expansion in history, sort of means the end is not too far off. It will mean less nose hair trimming implements and acne care products for you! A boomings economy can only be good for guys such as you.
Taro T Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, Hedge said: IF that really happens as a result of this trade deal that would be 1 of the best things to happen for US businesses in a long ####ing time. 5
Nanker Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Taro T said: IF that really happens as a result of this trade deal that would be 1 of the best things to happen for US businesses in a long ####ing time. Yeah, sure. But #ORANGEMANBAD!!!
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 21, 2020 Posted January 21, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 5:14 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...we are Union contractors and the trades are woefully short.....local Electrical union has allowed retirees to come back to work without jeopardizing their pension (7 months so far).....they usually retire at 55 on about $4,000/mo.......so now they earning $4,000+/month more...problem is they haven't been on a ladder or working 8 hrs/day for 3-5 years....hence there's ring rust as well as susceptibility to worker's comp injury...Electricals still use the archaic system of signing the book...so even the bottle of the barrel garbage is working.....if we need three guys and the first two available are known garbage, we have to take them for a day and spin them right back as a layoff....we pay 100% of their health care, fully fund their pension and annuity......retire at 55 with $4,000+/mo pension and $500,000-$750,000 in their annuity if invested properly.......yet no new apprentices signing up... And yet, if you go down to an IBEW union hall, you've got zero chance of getting in the door. Weird. 2
Foxx Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 https://twitter.com/JanJekielek/status/1220176827903119363 1 1
Foxx Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 https://twitter.com/caroljsroth/status/1220215170041024512 2
CoudyBills Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/caroljsroth/status/1220215170041024512 Totally expected. Watch people absolutely flip out when a cut to the growth rate of spending is mentioned, not even actual spending. Pathetic.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, CoudyBills said: Totally expected. Watch people absolutely flip out when a cut to the growth rate of spending is mentioned, not even actual spending. Pathetic. ...if you do NOT spend 100% of your allocated budget, it could be reduced the following year as well as being denied the "across the board percentage increase"......no impetus to save....hell it's only taxpayer money anyhow.......as construction industry contractors, municipality departments would be in panic mode as their fiscal year end was coming, scrambling how to find ways to spend a potential surplus (a/k/a "WASTE IT")....it was an embarrassment to us........
CoudyBills Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...if you do NOT spend 100% of your allocated budget, it could be reduced the following year as well as being denied the "across the board percentage increase"......no impetus to save....hell it's only taxpayer money anyhow.......as construction industry contractors, municipality departments would be in panic mode as their fiscal year end was coming, scrambling how to find ways to spend a potential surplus (a/k/a "WASTE IT")....it was an embarrassment to us........ Yessir, been there and witnessed that as well. Asinine frankly. As you said, it's only taxpayer's money. They make more everyday.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, CoudyBills said: Yessir, been there and witnessed that as well. Asinine frankly. As you said, it's only taxpayer's money. They make more everyday. ..."they" as in taxpayers?...so they should have to fork the "more" to be further wasted?..I'm a bit confused...........
CoudyBills Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..."they" as in taxpayers?...so they should have to fork the "more" to be further wasted?..I'm a bit confused........... That was supposed to be my sarcastic representation of government budget office people. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, CoudyBills said: That was supposed to be my sarcastic representation of government budget office people. ...dumbazz me........government's "well NEVER runs dry".......in the "true spirit of fairness", I would propose legislation whereby, "ALL paychecks will be direct deposited into the US Treasury and we will send you back what WE think you need"........sarcasm touche'...... 1
/dev/null Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 12 hours ago, CoudyBills said: Totally expected. Watch people absolutely flip out when a cut to the growth rate of spending is mentioned, not even actual spending. Pathetic. Agency spends $100M in 2020 Agency requests $110M in 2021 Congress allocates $105M in 2021 Leftists cry: They cut the budget by $5M!!!! It's a draconian 5% cut!!1! 5
CoudyBills Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, /dev/null said: Agency spends $100M in 2020 Agency requests $110M in 2021 Congress allocates $105M in 2021 Leftists cry: They cut the budget by $5M!!!! It's a draconian 5% cut!!1! And the reality is they only needed 87 million. Scrambled to find some really fancy toilets in the final month. 3
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