Koko78 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:23 PM, plenzmd1 said: Well, Trump said would be north of 4% no problemo did he not? maybe even 5 to 6% if i remember correctly Expand Yeah, you'd almost think that the Federal Reserve stepped in and jacked up interests rates specifically to prevent that from happening.
plenzmd1 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) On 2/28/2019 at 6:10 PM, 3rdnlng said: Context. Expand What Trump says has ZERO, and I mean ZERO to do wit Obama..so explain to me the context of Trump implementing a tax cut a year and declaring this Quote So we're at 3.3 percent GDP. I see no reason why we don't go to 4 percent, 5 percent, and even 6 percent." Expand Lets not forget the 3.3% was before his policies really took effect and most would agree should be assisgned to the previous admins.. and we are below that now. But somehow the statement above is related to Obama and context two years later ..how???????? Argue your boys record .or are you afraid to do that? https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/06/trump-defies-data-with-6-percent-gdp-growth-forecast.html On 2/28/2019 at 6:11 PM, Koko78 said: Yeah, you'd almost think that the Federal Reserve stepped in and jacked up interests rates specifically to prevent that from happening. Expand Yep , the guy appointed by Trump actively worked to make the economy falter so Trump would look bad. Yep, that sounds about right!!! Edited February 28, 2019 by plenzmd1
Koko78 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 6:18 PM, plenzmd1 said: Yep , the guy appointed by Trump actively worked to make the economy falter so Trump would look bad. Yep, that sounds about right!!! Expand That's not what I said, but you go with the dumbassery. It's working for you today.
plenzmd1 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) On 2/28/2019 at 6:20 PM, Koko78 said: That's not what I said, but you go with the dumbassery. It's working for you today. Expand then explain what you meant Okay, i did misread your comment..my bad. Edited February 28, 2019 by plenzmd1
Koko78 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 6:21 PM, plenzmd1 said: then explain what you meant Okay, i did misread your comment..my bad. Expand They jacked up the rates specifically to prevent 4-6% growth. That's not really a debate. It was pretty widely reported why they were increasing rates. They didn't want the economy to overheat, causing problems down the line.
plenzmd1 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 6:23 PM, Koko78 said: They jacked up the rates specifically to prevent 4-6% growth. That's not really a debate. It was pretty widely reported why they were increasing rates. They didn't want the economy to overheat, causing problems down the line. Expand I agree, as stated above i misinterpreted your comments..my apologies
3rdnlng Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 6:18 PM, plenzmd1 said: What Trump says has ZERO, and I mean ZERO to do wit Obama..so explain to me the context of Trump implementing a tax cut a year and declaring this Lets not forget the 3.3% was before his policies really took effect and most would agree should be assisgned to the previous admins.. and we are below that now. But somehow the statement above is related to Obama and context two years later ..how???????? Argue your boys record .or are you afraid to do that? Expand Discuss honestly. You know damn well that 2 years doesn't equal 8 years and without comparison (context) the figures don't mean jackshit. We all know that the economy is much improved with the increased % in the workforce, the fact that there are more jobs than people looking and the increase in wages.
plenzmd1 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 6:29 PM, 3rdnlng said: Discuss honestly. You know damn well that 2 years doesn't equal 8 years and without comparison (context) the figures don't mean jackshit. We all know that the economy is much improved with the increased % in the workforce, the fact that there are more jobs than people looking and the increase in wages. Expand again, to my point..that is an argument we can have..and you made it without referencing Obama! Thats all I ask
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/25/2019 at 11:40 PM, Koko78 said: I don't see how that was 'dumbing down' the discussion for Trump (other than it was a HuffPo piece, and they're dipschiffs with a mandate to attack Trump regardless of reality). He wasn't wrong. People forget Trump has been involved in negotiating and signing complex contracts for decades. Expand Yeah, and then not honoring them... maybe it was because those contracts were just to complex for him to understand that he was supposed to pay people/small businesses back the amount he committed 1
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 4:43 PM, DC Tom said: I haven't yet seen anyone say "Did better than expected." Outlets seem to be going way out of their way to make this seem negative. Expand When you have a President who was elected primarily for his economic acumen as a businessman--I disagree with anyone who thinks "Build a wall from sea to shining sea!!!" was what legitimately got moderates to vote for him--who kept touting how he'd inevitably get GDP growth above 4% and even 5%, it seems perfectly fair to present the 4th quarter in that manner.
3rdnlng Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 6:49 PM, transplantbillsfan said: Yeah, and then not honoring them... maybe it was because those contracts were just to complex for him to understand that he was supposed to pay people/small businesses back the amount he committed Expand Too. You're like a little lapdog that nips at heels. On 2/28/2019 at 6:55 PM, transplantbillsfan said: When you have a President who was elected primarily for his economic acumen as a businessman--I disagree with anyone who thinks "Build a wall from sea to shining sea!!!" was what legitimately got moderates to vote for him--who kept touting how he'd inevitably get GDP growth above 4% and even 5%, it seems perfectly fair to present the 4th quarter in that manner. Expand He won the election because of the SCOTUS nominations coming up.
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 6:56 PM, 3rdnlng said: Too. You're like a little lapdog that nips at heels. Expand Wow. You got me on a typo. Apparently that typo somehow proves your point... Congratulations.
Deranged Rhino Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 6:55 PM, transplantbillsfan said: When you have a President who was elected primarily for his economic acumen as a businessman--I disagree with anyone who thinks "Build a wall from sea to shining sea!!!" was what legitimately got moderates to vote for him--who kept touting how he'd inevitably get GDP growth above 4% and even 5%, it seems perfectly fair to present the 4th quarter in that manner. Expand First, I'm glad you're down here. More voices are needed in the dungeon - especially those who present differing points of view. Second, I'd argue the bolded is not the primary reason why Trump was elected. The primary reason was because he was not Hillary Clinton. A secondary reason was because he, as Michael Moore so eloquently put it in the video below, was "the biggest ***** you ever recorded in human history". People understood exactly who and what Trump was when they elected him. Which is why the normal smear attacks of "racists/sexist/Islamophobic" which works to sink 9 out of 10 politicians had no impact on his numbers.
3rdnlng Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 6:59 PM, transplantbillsfan said: Wow. You got me on a typo. Apparently that typo somehow proves your point... Congratulations. Expand The misuse of "to" was not the point of my response. The nipping at the heels was a reference to your weak arguments.
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 6:23 PM, Koko78 said: They jacked up the rates specifically to prevent 4-6% growth. That's not really a debate. It was pretty widely reported why they were increasing rates. They didn't want the economy to overheat, causing problems down the line. Expand Federal Interest rates are still incredibly low when you look at the span of interest rates over the last 60 years. https://www.macrotrends.net/2015/fed-funds-rate-historical-chart Shouldn't Trump be held to his own standards as he publicly represents them? Or are we supposed to assume there was an unsaid asterisk at the end of his statement of "...as long as the Fed doesn't raise interest rates."...?
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 7:03 PM, 3rdnlng said: The misuse of "to" was not the point of my response. The nipping at the heels was a reference to your weak arguments. Expand Yes, using a nebulous insult calling me a lapdog nipping at heals is clearly a much stronger argument than my weaker argument of bringing up something material and substantial that resurfaced about Trump and his business practices just yesterday.
3rdnlng Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 7:12 PM, transplantbillsfan said: Yes, using a nebulous insult calling me a lapdog nipping at heals is clearly a much stronger argument than my weaker argument of bringing up something material and substantial that resurfaced about Trump and his business practices just yesterday. Expand Heels.
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 7:13 PM, 3rdnlng said: Heels. Expand
3rdnlng Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 7:15 PM, transplantbillsfan said: Expand
DC Tom Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:19 PM, TPS said: It's very easy to find that... Fox News Expand I don't usually check comedy sites for news, though. On 2/28/2019 at 5:23 PM, plenzmd1 said: Well, Trump said would be north of 4% no problemo did he not? maybe even 5 to 6% if i remember correctly Expand Who the ***** cares? Trump says lots of things, usually wrong. I don't check comedy twitter feeds for news either. On 2/28/2019 at 6:55 PM, transplantbillsfan said: When you have a President who was elected primarily for his economic acumen as a businessman--I disagree with anyone who thinks "Build a wall from sea to shining sea!!!" was what legitimately got moderates to vote for him--who kept touting how he'd inevitably get GDP growth above 4% and even 5%, it seems perfectly fair to present the 4th quarter in that manner. Expand He has no economic acumen as a businessman. Anyone with half a brain has known that since the 90s. He went bankrupt in the casino business. If you think it's fair to present economic data in this manner - as dismal news based on what a failed casino owner thinks, even though it's better than what economists predicted - then you are the problem. 1
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