GG Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Doesn't mean you shouldn't answer the question. But don't complain when the answer is a stonewall
ndirish1978 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Re: Rex, he freaking fired him less than two years into a five-year contract! No comment on that? Please. Feel free to keep on defending that sort of tone-deaf response to questions, however. And he does come across as completely tone deaf (not Kim though). Don't get me wrong - I don't dislike TP and I love that he bought the Bills. But man, does he a) need some media training and b) need to wake up and realize that he's actually a public figure who owns a franchise that a million-plus people are abnormally invested in emotionally. Yes, he owes something to the fans. Pretending that a garden variety issue is some sort of state secret is laughable. Expressing a moderately worded opinion about the QB isn't going to start a nuclear war or -- more relevantly -- undermine anyone. I disagree completely. This whole statement comes off as entitled. You are entitled to watch the Bills and root for or against them. You are not entitled to whatever information you deem important. This is the problem with losing franchises, people have nothing real to cheer for so they make up stuff to care about.
Mr. WEO Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 I think firing him 2 years into a 5 year contract, and everything us fans saw on Sundays, says everything we need to know about Rex. Moderately worded opinions, instead of flat out stonewalls, is exactly what allowed the media to create the controversy. No, the GM saying that he didn't know the HC was going to be fired or that he even was close to being fired is what "created" this controversy. Come on..
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Agreed. Smart to go with Tim Graham too, now TBN can't be salty about a lack of access and if the criticize the Pegula's statements they're also criticizing their colleague who interviewed them. I do agree that this makes a lot of sense.
Joe Miner Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 ?? - I work at a place where the leadership actually speaks to the media in a respectful, thoughtful way, and it's a pretty damn big global company that is more famous than the Bills. So they talk to the media about why they fire people? I doubt they stick with that strategy for long. You are out of your element.
Heitz Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Doesn't mean you shouldn't answer the question. Reporters are paid to ask questions, it's perfectly fine for the subject of an interview to decline to answer or say no comment. I do media events with athletes all the time and we always reiterate this - if you're not comfortable answering a question, just decline and move on to the next... BTW, Terry is on WGR55 now: http://v6.player.abacast.net/2103
Kelly the Dog Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Doesn't mean you shouldn't answer the question. Would "It was blatantly clear to everyone why I did" suffice and provide you with any new or valuable information? There is an unwritten rule in screenwriting that every piece of dialogue should provide the audience with some piece of new information, otherwise it is a complete waste of time. While I don't think press conferences and dialogue are remotely the same, the only information a fan should want is new information, otherwise the answer is a complete waste of time. He couldn't say anything that is new information. It's already known.
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 I disagree completely. This whole statement comes off as entitled. You are entitled to watch the Bills and root for or against them. You are not entitled to whatever information you deem important. This is the problem with losing franchises, people have nothing real to cheer for so they make up stuff to care about. "Entitled"? Look, Terry Pegula is never going to listen to me. But it's pretty clear that he doesn't really interact well with the media. He doesn't like to, and I do actually get it. But anyone pretending that a litany of "none of your business" answers is a smart way to respond has Stockholm Syndrome.
Mr. WEO Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Would "It was blatantly clear to everyone why I did" suffice and provide you with any new or valuable information? There is an unwritten rule in screenwriting that every piece of dialogue should provide the audience with some piece of new information, otherwise it is a complete waste of time. While I don't think press conferences and dialogue are remotely the same, the only information a fan should want is new information, otherwise the answer is a complete waste of time. He couldn't say anything that is new information. It's already known. After his GM (with whom he is very close by all accounts--and with whom he had just had a regular meeting which included the HC).... says it was not obvious in a press conference?
Heitz Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 "Entitled"? Look, Terry Pegula is never going to listen to me. But it's pretty clear that he doesn't really interact well with the media. He doesn't like to, and I do actually get it. But anyone pretending that a litany of "none of your business" answers is a smart way to respond has Stockholm Syndrome. He's LIVE on the radio now answering questions just fine, soooooo...
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 So they talk to the media about why they fire people? I doubt they stick with that strategy for long. You are out of your element. Um, he talked about it the other day to John Wawrow. Most owners explain why they fire a head coach, actually. Like this: .
GG Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Um, he talked about it the other day to John Wawrow. Most owners explain why they fire a head coach, actually. Like this: . Did Alex Spanos give a PC to explain McCoy's firing? Did Kroenke? Were Pegula's answers worse than Yorke essentially telling a reporter to F-off because you can't fire an owner? Is it worse than Maras lying about Coughlin's retirement directly to the press? When I look at these things, I try to find important content, not how the message is delivered.
Joe Miner Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Um, he talked about it the other day to John Wawrow. Most owners explain why they fire a head coach, actually. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1kEeu3LsU . So spend the 2 minutes watching your video, and tell me when he described WHY he fired him.
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Nothing "fights" that perception like "none of your business"! Another well argued point. the questions he answered nunya to were just that, nunya. Especially a *cheats fan
Kelly the Dog Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 After his GM (with whom he is very close by all accounts--and with whom he had just had a regular meeting which included the HC).... says it was not obvious in a press conference? That's the point. It was blatantly clear. You and others are just bitching about nothing because you are taking what he said and twisting it around. Every Bills fan knows Whaley and Pegula have talked about Rex the whole year. The actual words that Whaley said were technically true based on the question. And even I was saying he was lying through his teeth because it was obvious what happened. You're using his exact quotes against him but if you want to be technical his exact quotes were true. He didn't know exactly what was said in that phone call so he didn't know exactly why Rex was fired. Rex could have called Terry's daughter a bad name. And Whaley never asked. There was no reason to ask, it was obvious. And obviously Whaley was being overly and obnoxiously coy about what happened. But literally he was correct. And you're still bitching about something that was crystal clear.
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) So spend the 2 minutes watching your video, and tell me when he described WHY he fired him. I could go on. Seriously. I'll start here if you want to continue this: http://a.espncdn.com/nfl/news/2001/0107/1001185.html http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/12162308/john-elway-denver-broncos-says-poor-finishes-led-john-fox-departure-hopes-peyton-manning-returns http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/12/jets_owner_woody_johnson_on_firing_rex_ryan_and_john_idzik.html Did Alex Spanos give a PC to explain McCoy's firing? Did Kroenke? Were Pegula's answers worse than Yorke essentially telling a reporter to F-off because you can't fire an owner? Is it worse than Maras lying about Coughlin's retirement directly to the press? When I look at these things, I try to find important content, not how the message is delivered. Look, I don't want to make a federal case out of this. If it was just the Rex thing, I'd say, who cares, move one. But the repeated "none of your business" answers to basic questions - which appear on the page to have been stated with contempt - suggest a guy who isn't very good with the media. I mean, isn't this obvious? It's been one of the criticisms of him for a while. I know a lot of people here don't care about the media, and I do agree that all these things go away if his franchises are competent. But they're not, and sounding tone-deaf doesn't help matters in the short term. Btw, Spanos has some bigger issues to deal with now, doncha think? Incidentally: http://a.espncdn.com/nfl/news/2001/0107/1001185.html Edited January 13, 2017 by dave mcbride
May Day 10 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 No, the GM saying that he didn't know the HC was going to be fired or that he even was close to being fired is what "created" this controversy. Come on.. Also, add in that this franchise has a long history of vague responsibilities in the front office. They commit one grievous error after another, and simply outsource one scapegoat, everyone else takes one step to the left, and they keep the waters muddy. Everyone's alarms went off full blast when Whaley stammered and for good reason. It was easily preventable on the Bills' part. Instead, they appear as 'dysfunctional', then cry media
Joe Miner Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 I could go on. Seriously. I'll start here if you want to continue this: http://a.espncdn.com/nfl/news/2001/0107/1001185.html http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/12162308/john-elway-denver-broncos-says-poor-finishes-led-john-fox-departure-hopes-peyton-manning-returns http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/12/jets_owner_woody_johnson_on_firing_rex_ryan_and_john_idzik.html Look, I don't want to make a federal case out of this. If it was just the Rex thing, I'd say, who cares, move one. But the repeated "none of your business" answers to basic questions - which appear on the page to have been stated with contempt - suggest a guy who isn't very good with the media. I mean, isn't this obvious? It's been one of the criticisms of him for a while. I know a lot of people here don't care about the media, and I do agree that all these things go away if his franchises are competent. But they're not, and sounding tone-deaf doesn't help matters in the short term. Btw, Spanos has some bigger issues to deal with now, doncha think? Incidentally: http://a.espncdn.com/nfl/news/2001/0107/1001185.html So, he didn't actually address why. Thanks That's all you had to say.
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) So, he didn't actually address why. Thanks That's all you had to say. In what language does this translate into "none of your business"? Note "scattered". http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2012/12/31/3822134/andy-reid-fired-jeff-lurie-says-decision-making-became-scattered http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000120427/printable/jeffrey-lurie-discusses-andy-reid-firing-eagles-search Also, look at the other links, particularly the first one (espn). Edited January 13, 2017 by dave mcbride
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