OCinBuffalo Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) I'll say it again: "If you want something done right, put the far left in charge of doing the opposite". What the right wanted done right was killing off the efforts at delegitimizing Trump's election. Buzzfeed obliged: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/business/buzzfeed-donald-trump-russia.html?_r=0 and now the above quote is approaching theorem status. The left had been attempting their delegitimatize effort using 3 main story lines: 1. Russian Hacking(causing the election to be stolen influenced for Trump) 2. Fake News(stories causing people to believe bad things about Clintons) 3. Trump's conflict of interest with his business vs the presidency will inevitably mean that the country will be bought and sold As of tonight, all 3 are done. Thanks, Buzzfeed! Buzzfeed == the guy who hits a one-hopper straight at the 3rd baseman with 2 guys on, allowing Team Trump to turn a triple play on the media, and the Democrats(and whoever paid the limey for the fake story), all in one news conference, and completely step on what was supposed to be today's story. Let's do one out at a time. 1st Out: Turns out the Buzzfeed story is total garbage, CNN picked it up, and the POETUS told them they were Fake News to their face. Fake News? Done. Trump destroyed CNN today. Period. 2nd Out: The whole Russian hacking thing turns on the notion that our intelligence community all agrees that the Russians did it. Let's set aside how the media "knows" their motives(mind readers?). The fake news Buzzfeed story was sold by them, CNN, and the left et al...as coming from the intelligence community! Yeah, so what was a 1 way hinge is now a 2 way. The Russian Hacking story died today. I can detail why, but, dead. 3rd Out: Trump's press conference was supposed to be about conflict of interest prevention. He did that, but, nobody is going to care/remember, after watching CNN get curb-stomped today. A 4th out could be the "tax return" story also died == Trump: "Nobody else cares about that story but you". What's left to report on? He did a bunch of stuff to insulate himself, which he isn't required to do. The only people who will want to argue the minutia of this beyond today is the GG/financial planning crowd. There's nowhere left for the story to go. Amazing. Yeah, any of you can try to "but..but..but" me with this or that. Come on. The "Delegitimize Trump" mission is over. Once again, a far left agenda item has been destroyed by their own idiocy. They have literally done the opposite....again. P.S.: The happiest person in DC tonight is idiot Cory Booker. He was going to be the star of the "first Senator to testify against another in a confirmation hearing" show, but now? If he's smart, he'll run away. His testimony was farcical. Now, nobody is going to see it. Thanks, Trump! Edited January 12, 2017 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Tldr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 You're factually wrong on CNN. They reported that Trump was given a 2 page summary on Russia having potentially embarrassing data in the intelligence briefing. That was before Buzzfeed released the details. CNN never released or talked about said details. What they reported was not fake news, it was simply referring to the 2 page summary that was provided. So Trump was wrong about CNN, his attempt to conflate who did what failed, and he embarrassed himself by again trying to bully the press. And Kelly Ann Conway later tried and failed on CNN to again conflate the issues. She said Trump never got the 2 page briefing, but then when pressed by Anderson Cooper said she didn't know if he got it because she wasn't there and didn't have clearance to know. CNN stands by the multiple sources they obtained the story from. This is the type of double speak that people not paying attention let Trump and his sycophants get away with. Conflation and pivot to avoid the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Where's Don Lemon gonna get drunk at if CNN's not around ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) You're factually wrong on CNN. They reported that Trump was given a 2 page summary on Russia having potentially embarrassing data in the intelligence briefing. That was before Buzzfeed released the details. CNN never released or talked about said details. What they reported was not fake news, it was simply referring to the 2 page summary that was provided. So Trump was wrong about CNN, his attempt to conflate who did what failed, and he embarrassed himself by again trying to bully the press. And Kelly Ann Conway later tried and failed on CNN to again conflate the issues. She said Trump never got the 2 page briefing, but then when pressed by Anderson Cooper said she didn't know if he got it because she wasn't there and didn't have clearance to know. CNN stands by the multiple sources they obtained the story from. This is the type of double speak that people not paying attention let Trump and his sycophants get away with. Conflation and pivot to avoid the truth. You're missing the point. The only takeaways from this are: 1. The intelligence people that are sure that the "Russians hacked the elections" couldn't find the right Micheal Cohen. Look: I know that's not how it works...at...all, nuance, etc. Few care. Not the right Micheal Cohen is the story. That's how it's playing. And, don't cry to me about being "factually wrong" today, of all days. Irony much? Conflation? What would you call taking a bogus intelligence report, that isn't, and trying to tell us that "Trump's win isn't legit because he was compromised and Putin helped him win because he could control him so that's why we didn't lose"? Conflation much? Not today. No, this is one of those "right to remain silent" times for the left. Everything you say about this WILL be used against you in the court of public opinion. By all means, keep talking. 2. As of right this minute, it's plausible that perhaps the true source of this entire thing is Anonymous. This may be the best troll of all time, with due respect to Oprah's Over 9000 Penises. I'm seeing credible posts that show that they were looking for a way to F with Rick Wilson(McCain guy), and this was how. Anons are quite gleeful today. Could all be BS, because that's what they do. But? Every minute that goes I am seeing more old posts that prove that this was Anon. Oh man, some guy's saying he sent it out to a whole bunch of reporters. I wonder if this supposed "ex MI-6 guy" is him...or...did some actual "ex MI-6" guy(reports are it came from a private intelligence firm) snag this troll and sell it as his work? I'd pay good $ to be in that meeting. 3. Nobody cares about what we were supposed to be talking about today....still. 4. The biggest Fake News outlet of all time is now Buzzfeed...EDIT: Not Breitbart 5. CNN can try to distance themselves, but they are standing in the middle of a field of fresh schit. There is no distancing. In any direction, they step in more schit. Best to stand still, and wait for things to dry out. Edited January 12, 2017 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) You're missing the point. Pasta thinks his point is important, a real "gotcha", when really it's moot. The point is they came after Trump with a ridiculous story, and it blew up in their faces. Edited January 12, 2017 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Pasta thinks his point is important, when really it's moot. The point is they came after Trump with a ridiculous story, and it blew up in their faces. That, and it took the left's three main lines of attack with it when it blew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Pasta thinks his point is important, a real "gotcha", when really it's moot. The point is they came after Trump with a ridiculous story, and it blew up in their faces. In PJ's world, leaked emails from the IRS showing intentional targeting of groups unsympathetic to the Obama Administration represents not a smidgen of truth. Documents from the State Department questioning Hiliary's use of a private email server as inconsequential. But an unconfirmed anonymous source talking about Trump paying ah hooker to pee as a viable source We've gone from Truthers, to Birthers, and now Pissers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 CNN is bad. They are so one sided. Lost all respect for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 CNN's reporting has been verified as correct. Director of Intelligence James Clapper said in a statement that the summary was included in the briefing documents because "part of our obligation is to ensure that policymakers are provided with the fullest possible picture of any matters that might affect national security." That is what CNN reported, that Trump was given the summary briefing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) CNN's reporting has been verified as correct. Director of Intelligence James Clapper said in a statement that the summary was included in the briefing documents because "part of our obligation is to ensure that policymakers are provided with the fullest possible picture of any matters that might affect national security." That is what CNN reported, that Trump was given the summary briefing. No, it wasn't just that. In addition to that, 3 separate CNN presenters editorialized that there was scandalous material in the summary. That's not the same thing as merely presenting the fact that there was a summary. They never should have reported anything, because the source of the information was garbage, and quite possibly they have been victims of the best troll of all time. They are getting exactly what they deserve. And as far as Clapper goes: explain why he called Donald Trump last night and told him that he was "dismayed" that this summary was reported on, and that it never should have seen the light of day, because it is garbage. Clapper is running for the hills because he knows he's in big trouble as DNI because, he is personally responsible for this mess, and, that there were only 5 people in the room with Trump and he was one of them, when this summary was delivered. He's in trouble as a manager and as an employee. Ask yourself PastaJoe: what exactly will you say if it is proven that Anon is the source of this story? The supposed ex MI-6 guy name is Christopher Steele. Did you know that that's also the name of a porn star, who happens to like urination, etc.? What a coincidence! Yeah, doesn't sound like a 4chan thing at all. Edited January 12, 2017 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Clapper didn't say it was garbage, he called to say the intel community didn't leak the the Russia dossier that he received a brief on as accurately reported by CNN. How deliciously ironic that Trump and his sycophants are crying foul over unsubstantiated information after having spent the campaign believing and retweeting many fake news stories about Clinton. How's it feel to reap what you sowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Clapper didn't say it was garbage, he called to say the intel community didn't leak the the Russia dossier that he received a brief on as accurately reported by CNN. How deliciously ironic that Trump and his sycophants are crying foul over unsubstantiated information after having spent the campaign believing and retweeting many fake news stories about Clinton. How's it feel to reap what you sowed. Are you serious? Talking about sowing. Today. As I said above: your 3 lines of attack, that you've been running for 6 damn weeks, are now utterly destroyed. And...you want to talk to me about reaping/sowing? Cognitive Dissonance. EDIT: Perhaps you are having trouble with me being the messenger? OK: how about Chuck Todd? Buzzfeed did Trump a political favor. He doesn't yet see the entire scope of this. He thinks Buzzfeed merely hit into a fielder's choice. He is wrong, right now, but, he'll get it eventually. He is wrong because we ain't gonna see another Russian Hacking, Fake News, or Conflict of Interest story...that isn't painfully contrived and twisted to avoid CNN's fate, rendering it meaningless. EDIT2: Here's another leftist who gets part of it as well: Why the media's Trump dossier coverage is suicidal The irony of this guy insulting Trump in the most petty ways, while talking about other people's need for "catharsis" is hilarious. Nobody gets the whole thing yet. But, it's like gravity: what I am saying is true, and it always was, it's just a matter of time until you and the rest of the left "discover" it. Edited January 12, 2017 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Clapper didn't say it was garbage, he called to say the intel community didn't leak the the Russia dossier that he received a brief on as accurately reported by CNN. How deliciously ironic that Trump and his sycophants are crying foul over unsubstantiated information after having spent the campaign believing and retweeting many fake news stories about Clinton. How's it feel to reap what you sowed. So now you equate random Trump supporters with CNN's journalistic integrity? Makes sense. How are the hiking trails in Chapaqua, btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 MICHAEL BRENDAN DOUGHERTY: Why the media’s Trump dossier coverage is suicidal. Whether or not you agree with Dougherty on any of the particulars, they all come down to this one line: “Our institutions can’t temporarily suspend the very standards that grant them credibility and expect to survive.” How BuzzFeed crossed the line in publishing salacious ‘dossier’ on TrumpWashington Post, by Margaret Sullivan Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 You're missing the point. The only takeaways from this are: 1. The intelligence people that are sure that the "Russians hacked the elections" couldn't find the right Micheal Cohen. Look: I know that's not how it works...at...all, nuance, etc. Few care. Not the right Micheal Cohen is the story. That's how it's playing. And, don't cry to me about being "factually wrong" today, of all days. Irony much? Conflation? What would you call taking a bogus intelligence report, that isn't, and trying to tell us that "Trump's win isn't legit because he was compromised and Putin helped him win because he could control him so that's why we didn't lose"? Conflation much? Not today. No, this is one of those "right to remain silent" times for the left. Everything you say about this WILL be used against you in the court of public opinion. By all means, keep talking. 2. As of right this minute, it's plausible that perhaps the true source of this entire thing is Anonymous. This may be the best troll of all time, with due respect to Oprah's Over 9000 Penises. I'm seeing credible posts that show that they were looking for a way to F with Rick Wilson(McCain guy), and this was how. Anons are quite gleeful today. Could all be BS, because that's what they do. But? Every minute that goes I am seeing more old posts that prove that this was Anon. Oh man, some guy's saying he sent it out to a whole bunch of reporters. I wonder if this supposed "ex MI-6 guy" is him...or...did some actual "ex MI-6" guy(reports are it came from a private intelligence firm) snag this troll and sell it as his work? I'd pay good $ to be in that meeting. 3. Nobody cares about what we were supposed to be talking about today....still. 4. The biggest Fake News outlet of all time is now Buzzfeed...EDIT: Not Breitbart 5. CNN can try to distance themselves, but they are standing in the middle of a field of fresh schit. There is no distancing. In any direction, they step in more schit. Best to stand still, and wait for things to dry out. Gimme a break - you pontifications would hold more relevance if you held the same standards for those on the right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Gimme a break - you pontifications would hold more relevance if you held the same standards for those on the right.... TL;DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Trump needs to release his tax returns. The American people deserve to know if this guy is crooked or being led around by the Kremlin. His anti-NATO/Pro-Putin stance raises suspicions enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Gimme a break - you pontifications would hold more relevance if you held the same standards for those on the right.... Pontification? No. Analysis. Something I'm told I'm pretty good at. Look: it's easy for us to determine if my analysis is correct. Count the number of Russian Hacking/Fake News Helped Trump/Conflict of Interest stories/segments that come up after today. I am betting the only ones that do are weak, toothless attempts at trying to resuscitate the delegitimize plan. That's if any come out at all. So let's do a simple before and after: Before the news conference, given Buzzfeed/CNN's idiocy, we had three lines of attack that perhaps had some traction? What do we have after? Hmm...I'm debating between this: and something like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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