John from Riverside Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 He wasn't there when Carr was drafted. Not that it would make a difference because OC's have absolutely no say over drafting personnel
GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Not that it would make a difference because OC's have absolutely no say over drafting personnel That really depends on the organisation. Some organisations (and I believe the Bills have in the last few years been one) are very collabrative. I think when those organisations choose Quarterbacks they absolutely seek their OCs opinion. Doesn't mean they draft their OCs preference all the time but especially in Buffalo if you think, for example, Marrone and Hackett were not consulted before the EJ draft then I say you are probably wrong. Doesn't mean they said "Draft EJ" but I do believe their opinion on the QBs will have been sought. Otherwise why have them at the pro days and visits?
H2o Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Yeah sorry, I saw it from a "reporter" on twitter and didn't confirm it. Looks like another premature tweet prematurely reported be me No worries brother
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 I'm wondering if the Castillo hire means McDerm thinks he's getting McCoy. How can he hire a run game coordinator without a run game in place to coordinate? Castillo helping to install the ground game with McCoy calling plays and working with the QBs could be a good setup. Why aren't the Bills setting up other interviews but the Broncos did? Wishful thinking probably.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 I like the McCoy bent, but Musgrave should not be overlooked. Man led an prodigious Offense and had it not been for an injury to Carr, who knows if Oakland would still be playing. Musgrave also has to his benefit, as mentioned above, worked with and developed a young QB and was the Vikes OC the year Peterson ran for 2,000 yards. Interesting and certainly a well qualified candidate. I was thinking the same thing. Oak goes 12-4 with a young QB who seems like he's steadily improving from one year to the next. #7 offense on points, strong run game, strong pass game - overall balance. So why did they let him go? why did musgrave get canned in oak? He didn't get canned exactly, they didn't renew his contract, which may be a clue. Maybe he pointed to all of the above and asked for more $$ than they were willing to give on his new contract? I would think he would be well worth talking to. Denver is talking to both McCoy and Musgrave, they can't keep both.
UpperDeck Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Wikipidea page saying McCoy is the Denver OC! Where do we turn now? You do know that any schlep that has an internet connection can update Wikipedia don't you?
What a Tuel Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 I was thinking the same thing. Oak goes 12-4 with a young QB who seems like he's steadily improving from one year to the next. #7 offense on points, strong run game, strong pass game - overall balance. So why did they let him go? He didn't get canned exactly, they didn't renew his contract, which may be a clue. Maybe he pointed to all of the above and asked for more $$ than they were willing to give on his new contract? I would think he would be well worth talking to. Denver is talking to both McCoy and Musgrave, they can't keep both. Is McCoy a done deal in Denver or not? I keep hearing both.
Kelly the Dog Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Is McCoy a done deal in Denver or not? I keep hearing both. No. But he did interview there today.
JM57 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 I was thinking the same thing. Oak goes 12-4 with a young QB who seems like he's steadily improving from one year to the next. #7 offense on points, strong run game, strong pass game - overall balance. So why did they let him go? He didn't get canned exactly, they didn't renew his contract, which may be a clue. Maybe he pointed to all of the above and asked for more $$ than they were willing to give on his new contract? I would think he would be well worth talking to. Denver is talking to both McCoy and Musgrave, they can't keep both. I think Oakland was worried one of the new HCs would poach Todd Downing (now their OC) and decided to let Musgrave walk rather than lose their young OC in waiting.
BillsGuru4 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 No news is good news for us out of denver. I expect to have our oc situation resolved tomorrow.
Kelly the Dog Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 UPDATE on Mike McCoy: McDermott and McCoy have spoken throughout day. Had a very productive conversation. Will be interviewing tomorrow Kevin Randal.
H2o Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 UPDATE on Mike McCoy: McDermott and McCoy have spoken throughout day. Had a very productive conversation. Will be interviewing tomorrow Kevin Randal. Boom!!! Quality info. Thx
What a Tuel Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 UPDATE on Mike McCoy: McDermott and McCoy have spoken throughout day. Had a very productive conversation. Will be interviewing tomorrow Kevin Randal. Very interesting. McDermott was rumored to want McCoy from the start. What's the connection that he would sway him over?
H2o Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Very interesting. McDermott was rumored to want McCoy from the start. What's the connection that he would sway him over? They worked together previously in Carolina and a pairing of them together has been talked about since November
YoloinOhio Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Very interesting. McDermott was rumored to want McCoy from the start. What's the connection that he would sway him over? they have same agent
JM57 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 They worked together previously in Carolina and a pairing of them together has been talked about since November Per John Clayton, the connection is their agent. No overlap in Carolina, McCoy went to Denver in 2009, McDermott started there in 2011.
H2o Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Per John Clayton, the connection is their agent. No overlap in Carolina, McCoy went to Denver in 2009, McDermott started there in 2011. McDermott and McCoy worked together previously with the Panthers and share a mutual admiration. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/mcdermott-mccoy-pairing-could-be-coaching-carousels-hottest-prize/
zow2 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 McCoy rumored to be finalizing a deal w Denver. I saw on Twitter but can't copy and paste from my phone
BarleyNY Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 OK, but does it happen? I can't recall a OC/DC going to a new city based on $$ Maybe Garret waiting his turn in Dallas. I do think that most coordinators are looking for the job that gets them the eventual big contract as a HC. But if a guy isn't looking to be a HC - perhaps they have already failed as a HC or just don't aspire to that position for whatever reason - then more money probably is a big deal. Also it's a way for less desirable destinations can compete with better ones. And, yes, it is happening now in some cases.
JM57 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/mcdermott-mccoy-pairing-could-be-coaching-carousels-hottest-prize/LaCalifornia didn't fact check. McCoy: Carolina Panthers (2000) Offensive assistant Carolina Panthers (2001) Wide receivers coach Carolina Panthers (20022003) Offensive assistant Carolina Panthers (20042005) Quarterbacks coach & offensive assistant Carolina Panthers (2006) Quarterbacks coach Carolina Panthers (20072008) Passing coordinator & quarterbacks coach Denver Broncos (2009) Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach Denver Broncos (20102012) Offensive coordinator San Diego Chargers (20132016) Head coach McDermott: Philadelphia Eagles (19992000) Scouting administrative coordinator Philadelphia Eagles (2001) Assistant to head coach Philadelphia Eagles (20022003) Defensive assistant & quality control Philadelphia Eagles (20042006) Assistant defensive backs coach Philadelphia Eagles (2007) Secondary coach Philadelphia Eagles (2008) Linebackers coach Philadelphia Eagles (20092010) Defensive coordinator & secondary coach Carolina Panthers (2011-2016) Defensive coordinator Potential good news on Bill Musgrave if Mike McCoy does go to Denver...Guess who Leslie Frazier's OC in Minnesota was? Edited January 13, 2017 by JM57
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