Big Turk Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Carr has to be the MVP...this is a 4 win team without him....if they are lucky.
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2017 Author Posted January 8, 2017 Nice TD by Cook though it looked like Texans were in prevent D
Boatdrinks Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Carr has to be the MVP...this is a 4 win team without him....if they are lucky. Maybe this game will get voters heads on straight . Tom Brady when Pats went 3-1 wthout him? Carr has fallen back to 4th or 5th in polls for some reason.
Maury Ballstein Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Maybe this game will get voters heads on straight . Tom Brady when Pats went 3-1 wthout him? Carr has fallen back to 4th or 5th in polls for some reason. I thought I heard on podcast Matt Ryan is the favorite RN.
Mark Vader Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 I'm still wearing my tin foil hat because I still think know the pats cheat (Ernie Adams) Fixed
mead107 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Could you imagine what Bills fans would be like if it was us in stead of the Raiders getting the **** kicked out of us
GoBills808 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 This was pretty close to a preseason game. Bummer of a way to start the playoffs
Mark Vader Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Is it just me or does Mark Davis look really special? He looks like a Romulan with that hair.
Mark Vader Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 I'm a bit biased but I like what I've seen out of Cardale much more than Cook. And wasn't Cook projected as a 1st rounder after his junior yr? Yes.....then his Senior year started.
Marty McFly Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 That sucked for Raiders fans. The rookie didnt do that bad considering he was down his starting LT, had almost no practice reps the whole season, was expected to red shirt, was made to call 3 similar screen passes early on that one got picked, and facing the #1 defense in their house as his 1st start.
Beef Jerky Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Based on his question, that answer can't be correct. While they will both get their asses handed to them by the Pats, one team will have a better chance. Nope
PatsFanNH Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Well either KC or my Pats will have an easy game next week.
KOKBILLS Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 So...Did that solidify Carr's MVP argument or what? That team is worse than average without him...
Prickly Pete Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 That sucked for Raiders fans. The rookie didnt do that bad considering he was down his starting LT, had almost no practice reps the whole season, was expected to red shirt, was made to call 3 similar screen passes early on that one got picked, and facing the #1 defense in their house as his 1st start. No one cares. They can't see past what's happening on the screen. The odds were stacked high against him, but if people don't see a miracle, they think a guy sucks. Just the fact that Del Rio played him at all should tell you that they think he has lots of potential. As Gruden said, the 3rd string QB gets NO reps during the season, so any chemistry and timing had to be developed in a week of practice. The drops when he did make nice throws were bad. I hoped Cook would do better, but I haven't changed my mind about him as a prospect.
John from Riverside Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 No one cares. They can't see past what's happening on the screen. The odds were stacked high against him, but if people don't see a miracle, they think a guy sucks. Just the fact that Del Rio played him at all should tell you that they think he has lots of potential. As Gruden said, the 3rd string QB gets NO reps during the season, so any chemistry and timing had to be developed in a week of practice. The drops when he did make nice throws were bad. I hoped Cook would do better, but I haven't changed my mind about him as a prospect. kinda like C. Jones in the final game
Prickly Pete Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) So...Did that solidify Carr's MVP argument or what? That team is worse than average without him... Not really, if they had an experienced backup (like a guy that had ever started a game in the NFL), it would have been a different team. If say, Tyrod Taylor (or just about ANY other starter were in there), they would have mopped the floor with Texans. I don't think it was just that Carr wasn't there. kinda like C. Jones in the final game Kinda. But this was against the best defense, in the playoffs, on the road, without your all-pro LT. WAY more pressure. I have high hopes for Cardale, too. To write off a guy's career because of that game is ridiculous. Edited January 8, 2017 by HoF Watkins
KOKBILLS Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Not really, if they had an experienced backup (like a guy that had ever started a game in the NFL), it would have been a different team. If say, Tyrod Taylor (or just about ANY other starter were in there), they would have mopped the floor with Texans. I don't think it was just that Carr wasn't there. They gave up 27 points to the Texans...That's why Carr is so important...He's elite...They went 12-3 with Carr as a starter despite having a bottom 7 Defense...Raiders opponents scored 24 or more points 11 out of their 17 games...The Texans only gave up 24 or more points 5 times...Carr is by far the determining factor in that teams success...They aren't mopping the floor with anyone unless they get elite QB play...
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