Blokestradamus Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Dug this up from May. God, the old days really were the best of times. @JoeBuscaglia Via @theMMQB, #Bills head coach Rex Ryan on Rob: "If you are a fan of the Buffalo Bills, thank your lucky stars he is here, and myself." Edited January 6, 2017 by Blokestradamus
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 he didn't ask "why" because he was too busy doing shots and throwing confetti Now why didn't the reporters think to ask about that ?
BmarvB Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 We never got to see if Dennis Thurman really is a DC. Can't put too much stock in the one game against the Jets. Maybe some other team will give him a shot at running his own defense now that he's free of Rex.
nucci Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 It is surprising because we were told he was an advisor. Then kinda worked with LBs. He was not supposed to be the DC ! Even his brother must have known he was not good at that role. Rex is many things, but stupid is not one of them. I am surprised this happened, if true. Correct but it was easy to see....maybe for me...that Rob was going to call the defense.....
Wayne Arnold Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 despite $45m in dead money and no major additions, as well as losing 3 out of 4 starters in the secondary to injury for a stretch - here are the saints stats with the "rob hangover" still not good but substantially improved. 2015 YPG allowed: 413 2016 YPG: 375 2015 Yard per play allowed: 6.6 2016 YPP: 6.0 2015 PPG allowed: 29.1 2016 PPG: 26.1 if we see similar bounces, and keep the offense on track, we should be in a nice spot. and you knew the problem from the get go would be that if it failed he wouldnt be able to handle managing his brother. hes too loyal to friends, yet alone rob. Weaker opponents than 2015. DVOA - Defense 2015 - #24 2016 - #26
John from Riverside Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Dug this up from May. God, the old days really were the best of times. @JoeBuscaglia Via @theMMQB, #Bills head coach Rex Ryan on Rob: "If you are a fan of the Buffalo Bills, thank your lucky stars he is here, and myself."
4BillsintheBurgh Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 It'll confuse an offense that's expecting 11. And then when they're expecting 10, you line up 11 and confuse them again. Clever! Something like - "Hey, where's the Mike?!?!?!"
OldNMBillsFan Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 It's a damn shame. Makes sense though.. terrible mistake based on emotion if true I honestly feel bad for Rex. loyal to the death. and i bit of respect for that. Not smart at all though if true. And i like Dunne I respectfully disagree with that statement. Anyone who puts one person, over the team as a whole, is not loyal. Like the statement that has been quoted that he made a promise to Tyrod. Why in the world would a coach make such a promise? I wouldn't call that loyalty, i call that not having the courage to be a prick.
Cripple Creek Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 I remember the spin being that Rex (not Rob) would run *his* defense in 2016, not the "hybrid" between his D and what Schwartz was doing. This was supposed to have made things simpler and more fully pregnant. echos the sentiments out of NOLA (and Buffalo) last year at this time. The saints were disorganized - took penalties and timeouts for not having the right number of guys etc.... and played below their talents.
eball Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 And who knew? It was Rob Ryan, all along... Rex is a pimp. He never could have outfought Brandon. But I didn't know until this day that it was Rob Ryan all along...
Estelle Getty Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Can't really buy Rob was the whole problem when they finished the same spot as the year before. Edited January 6, 2017 by Estelle Getty
Kelly the Dog Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Didn't another nameless Bills defensive player last week say that Rob was actually brilliant and the stuff he designed was fantastic, or something to that affect? I don't like Rob one bit but surprised people are taking these quotes, from one guy, who may not even be a starter, as gospel.
Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Didn't another nameless Bills defensive player last week say that Rob was actually brilliant and the stuff he designed was fantastic, or something to that affect? I don't like Rob one bit but surprised people are taking these quotes, from one guy, who may not even be a starter, as gospel. The two takes aren't mutually exclusive. Rob might be a mad scientist whose schemes are "brilliant" but not practical to run on Sundays... Martz was similar.
Kelly the Dog Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 The two takes aren't mutually exclusive. Rob might be a mad scientist whose schemes are "brilliant" but not practical to run on Sundays... Martz was similar. That's a good point. Although if they are impractical I don't really see how they can be brilliant.
DC Tom Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Didn't another nameless Bills defensive player last week say that Rob was actually brilliant and the stuff he designed was fantastic, or something to that affect? I don't like Rob one bit but surprised people are taking these quotes, from one guy, who may not even be a starter, as gospel. I didn't see that one. But I'd have to believe it was Darby or Gilmore, and in reference to hair care technology.
GG Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 The two takes aren't mutually exclusive. Rob might be a mad scientist whose schemes are "brilliant" but not practical to run on Sundays... Martz was similar. Imagine if DC Tom taught a class to illiterates?
boyst Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 What's funny is watching so many here gobbke this down and slobber this knob like they knew this all along. I could name names, but I'm not going to. It's a joke that a few here; coach Tuesday, firechan, gg, hopeful ... Didn't take the bait. Didn't go off on Gilmore. Didn't want to throw stones at players because a truly intelligent football mind can see whaysngoing on and it wasn't the players. It was coaching. All coaching. Kudos to us that were smart enough to see. Shame on you who denied us our place and you must know you're the reason this board is 99% unreadable. Also, DC Tom has been surprisingly accurate to break down events, not because she knows football but because he knows common sense.
K-9 Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 Rex is a pimp. He never could have outfought Brandon. But I didn't know until this day that it was Rob Ryan all along...
dezertbill Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) @TyDunne Had an interesting chat with one #Bills defensive player today on what went wrong for them this year. Will pass along a couple quotes. More from this #Bills player on D: "Rob ruined our whole defense. He took over everything. ... He confused us." Called it a "disaster." This #Bills player said that Rob Ryan -- not Rex -- was the problem. Rob was basically the team's DC in 2016. "He changed everything." Bills defensive player on Rob Ryan's D: "Players hated it. Everything we played was dictated off the offense. We had no identity." One other note: Player I chatted with said Rob Ryan mixed man with zone so much it confused everybody. "It was all over the place." In sum, guys on D livid because they felt the #Bills offense carried their weight in 2016 and the changes ruined a potentially great season. This doesn't surprise me at all. Rob seems to be a "lightening in a bottle" DC. He needs to have the perfect players for more than a year in order to have success. You know those defensive player sentiments made there way to Doug Whaley and Terry Pegula. Probably why it created the talent vs coaching riff between DW and RR and what led Terry to realizing this just wasn't working. The one thing I remember Schwartz say when he arrived is that he didn't want to confuse the players with all new stuff or make the game too complicated to play. He was able to successfully blend some of Pettines stuff with what he did and the defense actually improved in certain areas. That's why RR comments about their struggles last year were partly because he was trying to blend in some of what Schwartz did in order to make the transition easier was BS. Good coaches know how to handle that. Schwartz did. Usually when the dust clears you really see the inner workings of why stuff didn't work. Stuff that fans couldn't be privy to during the season cuz no one wants to speak out against the coach. And when they do, see Mario Williams. Granted Mario was past his prime and wasn't worth the money anyways. But safe to say his remarks weren't too far off from what' many players are now saying after the fact. Rex is done in the NFL as a head coach and likely as a coordinator. So is his brother, who will go back to being a linebacker coach somewhere. Edited January 7, 2017 by dezertbill
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