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As an addendum: GDP is the wrong way to measure the influence and power of the MiC. 

2 minutes ago, GG said:

Since you've been misrepresented so often by so many people, maybe it's time to change up the delivery?

 

Not everything is part of a dark shadows conspiracy.  

 

Most people don't misrepresent my thoughts on this issue. It's a small (repeating) list of folks who do. ;)

 

This is a thread specifically to speculate on the existence of the shadow government / deep state - which I went out of my way to make clear in the OP to the point of bolding it and including a big ol clue in the title. :ph34r:

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9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

As an addendum: GDP is the wrong way to measure the influence and power of the MiC. 

 

Most people don't misrepresent my thoughts on this issue. It's a small (repeating) list of folks who do. ;)

 

This is a thread specifically to speculate on the existence of the shadow government / deep state - which I went out of my way to make clear in the OP to the point of bolding it and including a big ol clue in the title. :ph34r:

 

If not GDP, how else do you measure the impact of a company? 

 

Market cap?  One tech company's value exceeds the total of all defense contractors.  If your theory held true, the opposite would hold.  

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18 minutes ago, GG said:

 

If not GDP, how else do you measure the impact of a company? 

 

Market cap?  One tech company's value exceeds the total of all defense contractors.  If your theory held true, the opposite would hold.  

 

Net profit in the hands of investors, including share price.  

Companies aren't Bilderbergers or Illuminati, shareholders are.

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3 minutes ago, GG said:

 

If not GDP, how else do you measure the impact of a company? 

 

A lot of different ways, but let's start with technology: 

 

What do you know about how the patent system works in the United States?

What happens to a patent that's deemed a threat to national security?

Who makes that determination?

What's the oversight process on that determination?

Is there a way for a patent holder to fight this designation?

Which industry holds the most top secret patents?

How many of these patents were once the ip of other companies or individuals? 

 

From a business perspective, who has more of a real world impact? The company with... let's say a trillion dollar market cap, or a concern that can seize any rival ip it wishes (and take ownership of it and any future profits from commercial use) just by designating it a national security threat? 

 

After we move past technology, we can dig into the multitude of illegal ways the MiC concern makes it's money, including drug running, human trafficking, and outright theft. Ways that aren't reflected in the GDP or market cap of any corporations.  

 

8 minutes ago, GG said:

Market cap?  One tech company's value exceeds the total of all defense contractors.  If your theory held true, the opposite would hold.  

 

You say that as if there is a separation between silicon valley and the MiC... 

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18 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Net profit in the hands of investors, including share price.  

Companies aren't Bilderbergers or Illuminati, shareholders are.

 

Why do you think I mentioned market cap?

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Motive:

U.S. Spent $5.6 Trillion on Wars in Middle East and Asia: Study

Figure for U.S. wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Pakistan since 2001 reflects costs that aren’t in Pentagon calculations

https://www.wsj.com/articles/study-estimates-war-costs-at-5-6-trillion-1510106400

 

5.6 Trillion... and the gravy train was drying up because the War on Terror was starting to fade in 2011-2012, which was exactly when the second cold war rhetoric began. 

 

You might call that a coincidence... I'd call it something else. 

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Iran threatens to hit Saudi, Abu Dhabi and Dubai air and sea ports, ships more missiles to Yemeni Houthis


Military tensions rise in the Gulf region amid Iranian threats and supplies of extended-range missiles to the Yemeni insurgents.

 

Tehran has warned Riyadh that unless the Saudi blockade of Yemeni ports is lifted, Revolutionary Guards missiles supplied to the Yemeni Houthi insurgents will be loosed against the seaports and airfields of Saudi Arabia, Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

 

 The warning was forwarded to their governments through the Omani back channel.

 

https://www.debka.com/iran-threatens-hit-saudi-abu-dhabi-dubai-air-sea-ports-ships-missiles-yemeni-houthis/

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26 minutes ago, B-Man said:

8z9FImcv_bigger.pngThe Associated PressVerified account @AP 2h2 hours ago

BREAKING: Saudi Arabia orders its citizens out of Lebanon 'immediately'

 

"As soon as possible," actually.  The warning's little different than our typical State Dept. travel advisory.

 

The REALLY interesting thing about this situation, that I didn't know until now, is that the Lebanese Prime Minister was visiting Saudi Arabia over the weekend...and resigned his post Saturday from Riyadh, and he hasn't been seen since.  

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1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

 

"As soon as possible," actually.  The warning's little different than our typical State Dept. travel advisory.

 

The REALLY interesting thing about this situation, that I didn't know until now, is that the Lebanese Prime Minister was visiting Saudi Arabia over the weekend...and resigned his post Saturday from Riyadh, and he hasn't been seen since.  

 

Then you weren't following the thread here :P

 

That fact is a key one in determining what's really going on in SA and Lebanon. 

 

Also the story of a ballistic missile being fired from Yemen and getting shot down over the airport. It's technologically impossible for a ballistic missile to have been launched from Yemen by Houthies/Iran. 

 

So... Who fired the missile. Who shot it down? 

 

The answer is in this thread. 

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34 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Then you weren't following the thread here :P

 

That fact is a key one in determining what's really going on in SA and Lebanon. 

 

Also the story of a ballistic missile being fired from Yemen and getting shot down over the airport. It's technologically impossible for a ballistic missile to have been launched from Yemen by Houthies/Iran. 

 

So... Who fired the missile. Who shot it down? 

 

The answer is in this thread. 

 

I haven't been following this thread.  I keep expecting someone to blame that shitbiscuit David Icke's reptoids for all of this...and I HATE David Icke.

 

The reptoids, I'm fine with, though.  Just Icke I have issues with.

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Just now, DC Tom said:

 

I haven't been following this thread.  I keep expecting someone to blame that shitbiscuit David Icke's reptoids for all of this...and I HATE David Icke.

 

The reptoids, I'm fine with, though.  Just Icke I have issues with.

 

I know you don't, I was just busting your chops. 

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More from SA: 100s of more arrested and 100s of additional bank accounts frozen. 

(Wonder what sort of activities those bank accounts were funding? Hmmm....)

Saudi Arabia makes fresh arrests in anti-graft crackdown: sources

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-arrests-detentions/saudi-arabia-makes-fresh-arrests-in-anti-graft-crackdown-sources-idUSKBN1D81ET

 

http://nypost.com/2017/11/09/more-than-200-arrested-in-saudi-arabias-corruption-crackdown/

 

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3 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

I haven't been following this thread.  I keep expecting someone to blame that shitbiscuit David Icke's reptoids for all of this...and I HATE David Icke.

 

The reptoids, I'm fine with, though.  Just Icke I have issues with.

 

:lol:

 

Icke: "satanists (not really satanists but saturnists) and paedophiles run the world"

 

Check it out. Good ****, that video. And he's speaking to a packed house, which amazes me. NOTE: I mean from a humor perspective. I'm more of a cern-conspiracy-phile myself.

 

 

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