Warren Zevon Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You better hope not. Why should Tibs hope not?
Deranged Rhino Posted November 16, 2018 Author Posted November 16, 2018 1 minute ago, peace out said: Why should Tibs hope not? If Assange goes into US custody, the Russian narrative goes bye-bye. Assange has direct evidence to show where the emails came from - and they didn't come from Guciffer 2.0.
3rdnlng Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Your new avatar didn't stick.
Deranged Rhino Posted November 16, 2018 Author Posted November 16, 2018 Thread on the "accidental" reveal:
3rdnlng Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, peace out said: Why should Tibs hope not? Have you not learned anything in your time here?
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Thread on the "accidental" reveal: So he is in US custody? And why would Ecuador agree to release him to the US after all these years?
Deranged Rhino Posted November 16, 2018 Author Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: So he is in US custody? And why would Ecuador agree to release him to the US after all these years? Officially he's not in custody - so no one really knows what Ecuador will do. The US has tried before, under 44, and failed to get him extradited to the US. Ditto with Sweden and the UK. Unofficially, no one has seen Assange in many months (not in the windows, not on the balcony, or his other normal haunts while he's been in exile). There have been rumors - going on a year now - that he hasn't been in the embassy for many months. Speculation has been that he's been in US protective custody and has been cooperating. What we know for sure, after yesterday, is there is a sealed indictment for Assange. It doesn't seem as if it was filed by Mueller's team, but no one is sure at this time. Recall the timeline with Comey and Assange and the Vault 7 releases. As covered pages ago in this thread (or the DOJ thread), Assange came to Comey's FBI with a deal during 2016. He offered evidence that would prove where the emails came from in exchange for immunity. Vault 7 was dangled as incentive... Comey and Brennan buried this offer and in return Assange and Wikileaks dropped vault 7. In other words, Comey and Brennan sacrificed our cyber war toolkit in order to keep Assange's evidence from coming to light. That should tell you how damning what he has is to their narrative. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Officially he's not in custody - so no one really knows what Ecuador will do. The US has tried before, under 44, and failed to get him extradited to the US. Ditto with Sweden and the UK. Unofficially, no one has seen Assange in many months (not in the windows, not on the balcony, or his other normal haunts while he's been in exile). There have been rumors - going on a year now - that he hasn't been in the embassy for many months. Speculation has been that he's been in US protective custody and has been cooperating. What we know for sure, after yesterday, is there is a sealed indictment for Assange. It doesn't seem as if it was filed by Mueller's team, but no one is sure at this time. Recall the timeline with Comey and Assange and the Vault 7 releases. As covered pages ago in this thread (or the DOJ thread), Assange came to Comey's FBI with a deal during 2016. He offered evidence that would prove where the emails came from in exchange for immunity. Vault 7 was dangled as incentive... Comey and Brennan buried this offer and in return Assange and Wikileaks dropped vault 7. In other words, Comey and Brennan sacrificed our cyber war toolkit in order to keep Assange's evidence from coming to light. That should tell you how damning what he has is to their narrative. Maybe he is giving it all up now in exchange for immunity. Seems plausible. I wish (at least some of ) these declassifications and indictments would start to drop so we could see it all unraveled. They've been pulling on the string for two years now; they have to be close. Edited November 16, 2018 by Buffalo_Gal 1
Deranged Rhino Posted November 16, 2018 Author Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Maybe he is giving it all up now in exchange for immunity. Seems plausible. I wish (at least some of ) these declassifications and indicatments would start to drop so we could see it all unraveled. They've been pulling on the string for two years now; they have to be close. Couldn't agree more with your last paragraph. Time to speed up the slow roll out. I understand and applaud why they've taken their time (to try to limit the blowback), but we're now teetering on the brink. Something's got to give one way or the other before it all goes to pot. 1
TH3 Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: If Assange goes into US custody, the Russian narrative goes bye-bye. Assange has direct evidence to show where the emails came from - and they didn't come from Guciffer 2.0. 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Officially he's not in custody - so no one really knows what Ecuador will do. The US has tried before, under 44, and failed to get him extradited to the US. Ditto with Sweden and the UK. Unofficially, no one has seen Assange in many months (not in the windows, not on the balcony, or his other normal haunts while he's been in exile). There have been rumors - going on a year now - that he hasn't been in the embassy for many months. Speculation has been that he's been in US protective custody and has been cooperating. What we know for sure, after yesterday, is there is a sealed indictment for Assange. It doesn't seem as if it was filed by Mueller's team, but no one is sure at this time. Recall the timeline with Comey and Assange and the Vault 7 releases. As covered pages ago in this thread (or the DOJ thread), Assange came to Comey's FBI with a deal during 2016. He offered evidence that would prove where the emails came from in exchange for immunity. Vault 7 was dangled as incentive... Comey and Brennan buried this offer and in return Assange and Wikileaks dropped vault 7. In other words, Comey and Brennan sacrificed our cyber war toolkit in order to keep Assange's evidence from coming to light. That should tell you how damning what he has is to their narrative. CONSPIRACY!! Dude you need to go into writing spy novels......fiction spy novels....
Deranged Rhino Posted November 16, 2018 Author Posted November 16, 2018 There's more evidence to support what I've written above than there is for the totality of the Russian collusion narrative. But I get it. Reading and understanding material objectively is hard when you're blinded by partisanship. For example, here's one overview of the Comey/Vault 7 deal https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/394036-How-Comey-intervened-to-kill-Wikileaks-immunity-deal The effort resulted in the drafting of a limited immunity deal that might have temporarily freed the WikiLeaks founder from a London embassy where he has been exiled for years, according to interviews and a trove of internal DOJ documents turned over to Senate investigators. Read the draft immunity deal proffer that the Justice Department was considering for Assange here. But an unexpected intervention by Comey — relayed through Warner — soured the negotiations, multiple sources tell me. Assange eventually unleashed a series of leaks that U.S. officials say damaged their cyber warfare capabilities for a long time to come.
Tiberius Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: There's more evidence to support what I've written above than there is for the totality of the Russian collusion narrative. But I get it. Reading and understanding material objectively is hard when you're blinded by partisanship. That's not even close to being true. Trump and Putin obviously conspired together to help Trump win. The evidence is overwhelming and that's why Whitaker was hacked into DOJ.
Deranged Rhino Posted November 16, 2018 Author Posted November 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's not even close to being true. Trump and Putin obviously conspired together to help Trump win. The evidence is overwhelming and that's why Whitaker was hacked into DOJ. Show me a single, solitary piece of evidence for the bolded. If you can, you'd be the first and CNN/MSNBC/Adam Schiff will make you the most beloved man in America.
DC Tom Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Show me a single, solitary piece of evidence for the bolded. If you can, you'd be the first and CNN/MSNBC/Adam Schiff will make you the most beloved man in America. How much more evidence do you need? WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!! 1 2
Tiberius Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: How much more evidence do you need? WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!! Oh gosh! Now that is funny! Not! 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Show me a single, solitary piece of evidence for the bolded. If you can, you'd be the first and CNN/MSNBC/Adam Schiff will make you the most beloved man in America. You mean aside from the well known fact of how they met with Russians in Trump Towers to get dirt on Hillary Clinton?
Deranged Rhino Posted November 16, 2018 Author Posted November 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You mean aside from the well known fact of how they met with Russians in Trump Towers to get dirt on Hillary Clinton? Yes. That meeting is not evidence of Trump/Putin collusion. Everyone in the meeting, not named Trump, had direct ties to the Obama administration, Clinton campaign, or the Obama DOJ/IC. This has been covered many times, debunked many times, and is not evidence of Trump/Putin conspiracy. Like I said, there's no evidence for it. None. If you have any, you'd be the first and could become a media darling... 1
Tiberius Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Yes. That meeting is not evidence of Trump/Putin collusion. Everyone in the meeting, not named Trump, had direct ties to the Obama administration, Clinton campaign, or the Obama DOJ/IC. This has been covered many times, debunked many times, and is not evidence of Trump/Putin conspiracy. Like I said, there's no evidence for it. None. If you have any, you'd be the first and could become a media darling... LOL, ok.
Deranged Rhino Posted November 16, 2018 Author Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: LOL, ok. Anything else besides that meaning you can offer as evidence?
Tiberius Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Anything else besides that meaning you can offer as evidence? How was Jared Kushner related to Obama, Clinton, etc? Trump calling on Russia to interfere, openly, is evidence. Trump's refusal to stand up to Putin. To want to meet secretly with him and invite him to the WH. (Circumstantial, but still strong evidence) Kushner wanting to set up a backchannel. Mueller's indictment of Russian troll farm which helped on the election Paul Manafort, the former Kremlin puppet who was his campaign manager.He is now talking, so we will eventually know more.
Nanker Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 51 minutes ago, TH3 said: CONSPIRACY!! Dude you need to go into writing spy novels......fiction spy novels.... You have no ***** clue.
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