The Deep State War Heats Up :ph34r:

[Taro T]

50 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

That there are individuals in places of power who advocate for this sort of thing is sobering.

 

Let this sink in, liberals and never-Trumpers of the board readership:

 

The intellectual leadership of your movement believes that nuclear war, in which billions die, is preferential to a Trump Presidency.

 

Think about this:  a billionaire, whom has access to remote locations and food stores, and whose life would not be impacted by such events is advocating for your death such that he get his way politically.

 

Let that sink in.

 

But, but, ... he walked that statement back.  He didn't really mean it; really he didn't. /the usual suspects

 

[TakeYouToTasker]

3 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

But, but, ... he walked that statement back.  He didn't really mean it; really he didn't. /the usual suspects

 

 

Walked the statement back to wanting to go to war under false pretenses and having the domestic economy decimated.

 

He wants your finances decimated, and wants your children to die in a foreign land; so he can have his political preferences.

 

He wants you destitute.  He wants you to suffer deep loss.  Not himself.  He's 100% insulated.

 

That's what he walked it back to.

 

I know that's not the point of your post, but for anyone who does make that argument, that's the argument they're really making.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Walked the statement back to wanting to go to war under false pretenses and having the domestic economy decimated.

 

He wants your finances decimated, and wants your children to die in a foreign land; so he can have his political preferences.

 

He wants you destitute.  He wants you to suffer deep loss.  Not himself.  He's 100% insulated.

 

That's what he walked it back to.

 

I know that's not the point of your post, but for anyone who does make that argument, that's the argument they're really making.

 

And he's out there, running amok with his billions. Untouchable, unaccountable. Let's hope nothing unfortunate happens to him.

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Big/good news that will be under reported: 

 

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Why is the Washington Post in such a hurry to defend MS-13? They're taking page space to do positive PR for a violent gang... why?

(I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact it's been a disposable/disavowable weapon for elements of the establishment for years now) 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

I had my doubts during the race but I love things like this.

[njbuff]

35 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 Is this a game-changer?

[Deranged Rhino]

18 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 Is this a game-changer?

 

I don't think they'll end up doing it - but it's a pretty big threat. If American forces left Germany, it would make a big dent in their economy, which is the economic heart of the EU.

On 6/28/2018 at 8:38 AM, TakeYouToTasker said:

Same individual that Greg's link spoke about.  Added:  He's a Clinton campaign official.

 

https://truepundit.com/fbi-clinton-campaign-official-arrested-on-child-rape-charges-feds-cashing-in-on-weiner-laptop-intel/

 

 

 

 

 

Here's the indictment - not for the feint of heart. The details are MUCH worse than the coverage. 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1075016/download

 

This kid was a Nobel Prize nominee, worked with the UN and several large political organizations/campaigns. He also thought it was normal that parents would willingly offer up their children to strangers for money (learned behavior?). This is the type of person who is groomed by others in those powerful circles of DC and Hollywood - waiting to be inserted into the machine in some capacity. Makes me wonder how many others have there been that never left the shadows?

 

Food for thought. 

[LB3]

The U.S. Justice Department on Thursday announced charges against 601 people including doctors for taking part in health-care frauds that resulted in over $2 billion in losses and contributed to the nation’s opioid epidemic in some cases.

The arrests came in dozens of unrelated prosecutions the Justice Department announced together as part of an annual health-care fraud takedown.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/06/29/justice-department-charges-601-people-including-doctors-in-opioid-ab.html?__twitter_impression=true

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Big/good news that will be under reported: 

 

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Why is the Washington Post in such a hurry to defend MS-13? They're taking page space to do positive PR for a violent gang... why?

(I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact it's been a disposable/disavowable weapon for elements of the establishment for years now) 

 

 

 

Because they serve the same masters. And it ain’t us.

 

 

[Koko78]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

I don't think they'll end up doing it - but it's a pretty big threat. If American forces left Germany, it would make a big dent in their economy, which is the economic heart of the EU.

 

Kinda makes foregoing retaliatory tariffs and coming to the table to seriously renegotiate trade deals more appetizing, doesn't it?

[/dev/null]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I don't think they'll end up doing it - but it's a pretty big threat. If American forces left Germany, it would make a big dent in their economy, which is the economic heart of the EU.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Kinda makes foregoing retaliatory tariffs and coming to the table to seriously renegotiate trade deals more appetizing, doesn't it?

 

Would also expose the warts in Bernie's Scandinavian Socialist wet dream

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Big/good news that will be under reported: 

 

*****************

Why is the Washington Post in such a hurry to defend MS-13? They're taking page space to do positive PR for a violent gang... why?

(I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact it's been a disposable/disavowable weapon for elements of the establishment for years now) 

 

 

I think the families of those murdered by any ms13 member probably appreciates this human interest angle about this misunderstood band of lovable kids.  I don't know many people who wouldn't want to stop their attacker, look them in the eye and say "Hey, before you hack my arm off with that machete, are you a serious threat to all Americans, or just me?".

 

what a disgrace. 

[Koko78]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Here's the indictment - not for the feint of heart. The details are MUCH worse than the coverage. 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1075016/download

 

Reading crap like this makes me grateful that all of my child molester/kiddie porn clients plead out (or I was able to get evidence suppressed) before I had to start going through images/videos.

[Deranged Rhino]

10 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

 

 

Would also expose the warts in Bernie's Scandinavian Socialist wet dream

 

It's real bad news for Germany on the defense front. From what I've heard (Sherpa might know better), the Luftwaffe can only field four operational fighters right now. Four air defense/superiority fighters - for all of Germany. Worse, it's premier strike craft is the Panavia Tornado - capable fighter in the 90's and early 00's - but they haven't had any avionics or comms updates since the 90s. So Germany's only fighters can't communicate with NATO craft or identify friend or foe. That's why Germany didn't participate in strikes on Syria along with the US, UK and France - they don't have the capability at present.

 

Their navy is even worse, with just two submarines and little else. Their army has been watered down somewhat due to rollbacks in requirements, but it's still one of the more effective armies in the world... but the latest generation of German armor, the leopard II which they sold in droves to Turkey, got decimated by ISIS in Afrin who were just using Russian anti-tank missiles. Turkey lost 2/3rds of their order in under 18 months. German armor isn't survivable in other words.

 

If the US pulls out of Germany and doesn't redeploy to Norway or Poland, NATO would be !@#$ed. It would force the EU to pay for and create its own army. But that army, which they are trying to build, is largely dependent on Luftwaffe air power - which currently only exists on paper. And the German economy likely could not afford the expenditure to buy enough aircraft once the US left and further strained its economy, which is sagging already under the 2m+ refugees who crossed into their borders. 

 

France and the UK both have capable air forces and navies, they'd be fine... this is about squeezing Germany and Merkel imo. Germany is the EU.  

 

If the US did leave (which I still don't think they will), I would think they'd redeploy to Poland and Norway who have been better hosts and have done a ton of joint exercises lately. It would also position US forces closer to Russia, giving more of a hard line stance to deter Putin from grabbing any more land. Maybe that's the plan... Trump's crazy enough to do it. But I'm not holding my breath. 

[/dev/null]

30 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Reading crap like this makes me grateful that all of my child molester/kiddie porn clients plead out (or I was able to get evidence suppressed) before I had to start going through images/videos.

Reminds me of a Cyber Security position I interviewed for awhile back.  Basically reviewing what everybody on the network is browsing.  If you see something questionable, flag it, track it, and build a case.

 

The interviewer said they could not discriminate against me for being a male or try to persuade me against accepting the job.  But you burn out fast and women tend to last longer than men. 

 

Short term.  High Pay. But it can !@#$ with your brain

[DC Tom]

7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It's real bad news for Germany on the defense front. From what I've heard (Sherpa might know better), the Luftwaffe can only field four operational fighters right now. Four air defense/superiority fighters - for all of Germany. Worse, it's premier strike craft is the Panavia Tornado - capable fighter in the 90's and early 00's - but they haven't had any avionics or comms updates since the 90s. So Germany's only fighters can't communicate with NATO craft or identify friend or foe. That's why Germany didn't participate in strikes on Syria along with the US, UK and France - they don't have the capability at present.

 

Their navy is even worse, with just two submarines and little else. Their army has been watered down somewhat due to rollbacks in requirements, but it's still one of the more effective armies in the world... but the latest generation of German armor, the leopard II which they sold in droves to Turkey, got decimated by ISIS in Afrin who were just using Russian anti-tank missiles. Turkey lost 2/3rds of their order in under 18 months. German armor isn't survivable in other words.

 

If the US pulls out of Germany and doesn't redeploy to Norway or Poland, NATO would be !@#$ed. It would force the EU to pay for and create its own army. But that army, which they are trying to build, is largely dependent on Luftwaffe air power - which currently only exists on paper. And the German economy likely could not afford the expenditure to buy enough aircraft once the US left and further strained its economy, which is sagging already under the 2m+ refugees who crossed into their borders. 

 

France and the UK both have capable air forces and navies, they'd be fine... this is about squeezing Germany and Merkel imo. Germany is the EU.  

 

If the US did leave (which I still don't think they will), I would think they'd redeploy to Poland and Norway who have been better hosts and have done a ton of joint exercises lately. It would also position US forces closer to Russia, giving more of a hard line stance to deter Putin from grabbing any more land. Maybe that's the plan... Trump's crazy enough to do it. But I'm not holding my breath. 

 

Tornado IDS forces have been cut severely, but the remainder went through a SLEP some 5 or so years ago, and are fully capable of integrating with NATO forces.  And they've been superseded largely by the Eurofighter Tornado - of which only four of the 128 are mission capable, because of a "technical glitch," not any precipitous service cutbacks or lack of maintenance.  They can actually fly most of them.

 

And the Leopard...the Turks got old, worn-out Leopard 2A4's, and misused them.  Badly.  They deployed 30 year old tanks singly, and without proper support.  The Turkish experience with Leopards is far less an indictment of the vehicle than it is of the idiots in the Turkish Army.  

 

And the German Navy...not as bad as you make them out to be.  I count at least ten successful deployments of frigates in the past two years.  And all the articles I can find complaining about the German Navy's inability to stage blue-water deployment miss the simple fact that Germany's naval NATO commitments are strictly Baltic.  

 

Sorry to say...wherever you're getting your info in this case, it's pure dog ****.

[Deranged Rhino]

22 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

Sorry to say...wherever you're getting your info in this case, it's pure dog ****.

 

This particular case it was a bar conversation over many a drink with some Navy friends last weekend. So blame these   

[Prickly Pete]

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I don't think they'll end up doing it - but it's a pretty big threat. If American forces left Germany, it would make a big dent in their economy, which is the economic heart of the EU.

 

Here's the indictment - not for the feint of heart. The details are MUCH worse than the coverage. 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1075016/download

 

This kid was a Nobel Prize nominee, worked with the UN and several large political organizations/campaigns. He also thought it was normal that parents would willingly offer up their children to strangers for money (learned behavior?). This is the type of person who is groomed by others in those powerful circles of DC and Hollywood - waiting to be inserted into the machine in some capacity. Makes me wonder how many others have there been that never left the shadows?

 

Food for thought. 

 

How does someone get that !@#$ed up? It's the craziest, most depraved **** I've ever read. Chilling

[Deranged Rhino]

6 minutes ago, OJ Tom said:

 

How does someone get that !@#$ed up? It's the craziest, most depraved **** I've ever read. Chilling

 

The darkness is real. Think about the larger picture too, the availability of the material - plus the access to the children he admitted to abusing - means there's an industry behind this. A big money one too, that some in DC just keep on protecting for some reason...

 

Why aren't the record number of arrests of specifically child traffickers/abusers made by this DOJ getting so little coverage by the corporate news? Hell, it's even hard to find on local news outside of big markets. In 2014 there were 402 arrests for this crime. There were well over 10,000 made by this DOJ in 2017. 

 

Wonder what changed. 

Edited June 30, 2018 by Deranged Rhino