YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2017 Author Posted January 6, 2017 It makes me happy that they didn't stop interviewing after Lynn. *Whew*. Do you know if Lynn and Goodwin have any previous points of intersection where they both worked for the same guy at different times, or both worked together? i don't think so. goodwin was with Steelers, colts and cardinals. Always with Arians.
TheFunPolice Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Goodwin HC Lynn OC That would be a nice structure. There is precedent with Roman interviewing for the HC position but then coming in as OC for Rex that same year.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Same could be said for Pederson in Philly. He did stroons in KC for Andy Reid, or so it's said. He's done alright in Philly so far. Don't say that in Philly. They are howling for his blood right now. He made a lot of questionable decisions and play calls.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Don't say that in Philly. They are howling for his blood right now. He made a lot of questionable decisions and play calls. He certainly did. Plenty of head scratchers all season long.
Nanker Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Oh, they're just pizzed they missed the playoffs this year.
JoeF Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 It is better to say Whoa than sic 'em.....The Bills have a got a lot of guys who like to attack on O and D..but particularly on D were worried about diagnosing the formation before they moved....
RyanC883 Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) I'd take Lynn over Goodwin. The current players like him, he knows the team, and the Bills offense was better than Arizona's last year. There is also the issue of what Goodwin's role was in AZ (was Arien's running the offense). Also, Goodwin has been surrounded by top-level QB play for most of his carrier. How will he handle the drop-off? That said, Goodwin could answer a lot of these questions during the interview. I also don't see Lynn staying as OC after being the interim HC and being passed over for the HC job. He likely goes elsewhere. I still want Toub as HC. My ideal HC has knowledge of all 3 facets of the game, which Toub has, and would let the OC and DC control their units. Edited January 6, 2017 by RyanC883
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2017 Author Posted January 6, 2017 I'd take Lynn over Goodwin. The current players like him, he knows the team, and the Bills offense was better than Arizona's last year. There is also the issue of what Goodwin's role was in AZ (was Arien's running the offense). Also, Goodwin has been surrounded by top-level QB play for most of his carrier. How will he handle the drop-off? That said, Goodwin could answer a lot of these questions during the interview. I also don't see Lynn staying as OC after being the interim HC and being passed over for the HC job. He likely goes elsewhere. I still want Toub as HC. My ideal HC has knowledge of all 3 facets of the game, which Toub has, and would let the OC and DC control their units. Hes under contract so he can't leave unless it is for a HC job somewhere else. Or the new HC doesn't choose to retain him.
Andrew Son Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 The Pitt connection to Whaley makes me think this is the guy
CommonCents Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Have coaches interviewed for HC with a team and then accepted a lesser role? I hear a lot of people wanting to keep Lynn as OC, has this happened before? Interim coach - interview for HC - Back to OC/DC. Just curious.
TheFunPolice Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Have coaches interviewed for HC with a team and then accepted a lesser role? I hear a lot of people wanting to keep Lynn as OC, has this happened before? Interim coach - interview for HC - Back to OC/DC. Just curious. Yes 2 years ago Greg Roman interviewed for the HC job then when Rex got it came in as OC
CommonCents Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Yes 2 years ago Greg Roman interviewed for the HC job then when Rex got it came in as OC Similar but Roman wasn't already in place as the interim HC then going back down to a lesser role on the same team. I'm not saying it couldn't/shouldn't happen I just have a hunch that pride would get in the way for most people.
yungmack Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 I have only one question -- is he also made of glass?That's a good one.
TheFunPolice Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Similar but Roman wasn't already in place as the interim HC then going back down to a lesser role on the same team. I'm not saying it couldn't/shouldn't happen I just have a hunch that pride would get in the way for most people. True... I guess it all depends. If he doesn't get any HC gig he might take an OC gig, given that he's never been one before now. It's still a nice raise and a promotion. Edited January 6, 2017 by TheFunPolice
GunnerBill Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Similar but Roman wasn't already in place as the interim HC then going back down to a lesser role on the same team. I'm not saying it couldn't/shouldn't happen I just have a hunch that pride would get in the way for most people. I think it happened in Washington. Didn't Haslett interview post the Shanahans and then stay on as DC? Edited January 6, 2017 by GunnerBill
hondo in seattle Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 "BA (Bruce Arians) says it's better to say 'whoa' than to say 'sic 'em' -- if you have an attack dog let him attack." It's better to have a player who's over-aggressive who you occasionally you have to restrain (say whoa)... Then a player who's under-aggressive who you have to encourage to go sic 'em. So far, I don't hate any of the candidates we're interviewing.
Steve Billieve Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Lynn is under contract, if he doesn't get/take a HC job and we want him as OC how is he even interviewing for another coordinating position much less sure that he'd get one someplace else. Not sure how he wouldn't be happy with a big step forward (no longer being interim OC). Edited January 6, 2017 by Steve Billieve
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 Hes under contract so he can't leave unless it is for a HC job somewhere else. Or the new HC doesn't choose to retain him. True, but with the deadlines and pressure every week, if an assistant really wants to be elsewhere I would imagine most HC would let him go It takes a bunch of guys who really want to be there and work together to make an NFL season work.
Wayne Arnold Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 Coaches Goodwin has worked for/with in the NFL still employed Mike Tomlin (Steelers HC) Bruce Arians (Cardinals HC) Kirby Wilson (Browns Run Game Coordinator) Ray Horton (Browns DC - may be getting replaced) Bob Ligashesky (Special Teams - Illinois) Amos Jones (Cardinals Special Teams Coordinator) Lou Spanos (Titans Linebackers coach) Sean Kugler (UTEP Head Coach) Scottie Montgomery (East Carolina Head Coach) Jerry Olsavsky (Steelers Inside LInebackers coach) Carnell Lake (Steelers defensive backs coach) Chuck Pagano (Colts HC) Clyde Christensen (Dolphins OC) David Walker (Lions running backs coach) Greg Manusky (Redskins outside linebackers coach) Jeff Fitzgerald (Colts linebackers coach) Roy Anderson (49ers safeties coach) Tom Moore (Cardinals AHC/OA) Freddie Kitchens (Cardinals QB coach) Stump Mitchell (Cardinals RB coach) Darryl Drake (Cardinals WR coach) Rick Christophel (Cardinals TE coach) Larry Zierlein (Cardinals Asst. OLine coach) Steve Heiden (Special Teams Assistant) Todd Bowles (Jets HC) Brentson Buckner (Cardinals DLine coach) James Bettcher (Cardinals DC) Mike Caldwell (Jets AHC/Inside Linebackers coach) Kevin Ross (Cardinals cornerbacks coach) Tom Pratt (Cardinals pass rush specialist) Bob Sanders (Cardinals Linebackers coach) Larry Foote (Cardinals Assistant Inside Linebackers)
purple haze Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 Harold Goodwin wired for sound: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Harold+goodwin+youtube&view=detail&mid=3DD76FDDD6B7619BE6023DD76FDDD6B7619BE602&FORM=VIRE
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