eball Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 ...isn't it logical and reasonable that the reason Whaley isn't making any definitive statements with respect to Tyrod is because he wants to hear from the HC candidates what they think of him and his potential ceiling? The Bills don't have to make a decision on the option until March, and certainly a new coach will be in place by then. Just throwing that out there...if you're interviewing for the HC job I think you'd like to have a say in who your starting QB will be, and any strong comments made by Whaley at this point (positive or negative) could impact the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 GTFOH with that logical crap. You trying to start trouble here. There is NO ROOM here for intelligent discourse. It's in the bylaws. #Everybody sucks! Fire them all! That's the only manta here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNMBillsFan Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 GTFOH with that logical crap. You trying to start trouble here. There is NO ROOM here for intelligent discourse. It's in the bylaws. #Everybody sucks! Fire them all! That's the only manta here. No kidding. I expect the mods will shut this thread down soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Daily Tyrod thread. ...isn't it logical and reasonable that the reason Whaley isn't making any definitive statements with respect to Tyrod is because he wants to hear from the HC candidates what they think of him and his potential ceiling? The Bills don't have to make a decision on the option until March, and certainly a new coach will be in place by then. Just throwing that out there...if you're interviewing for the HC job I think you'd like to have a say in who your starting QB will be, and any strong comments made by Whaley at this point (positive or negative) could impact the process. Yes it is logical and reasonable. I think that is what most of the posters have been saying over the last week or so. Isn't it? This is a big decision that the new head coach will be the biggest "decision maker" on. The reason the new coach will be the biggest decision maker on this subject is because, as the contract sits, a new coach will be betting his coaching tenure on Tyrod succeeding if the Bills pick up the option on Tyrod's contract. That is why Whaley is silent about Tyrod. If he opens his mouth about Tyrod too much, it could directly (and negatively) affect the pool of coaches the Bills have to choose from. That means it could directly impact Whaley's future and the Bills' future. So it would be irresponsible of him to say anything unless he is intentionally trying to limit his coaching options for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 ...isn't it logical and reasonable that the reason Whaley isn't making any definitive statements with respect to Tyrod is because he wants to hear from the HC candidates what they think of him and his potential ceiling? The Bills don't have to make a decision on the option until March, and certainly a new coach will be in place by then. Just throwing that out there...if you're interviewing for the HC job I think you'd like to have a say in who your starting QB will be, and any strong comments made by Whaley at this point (positive or negative) could impact the process. i don't have a problem with keeping him see who new coach is. Go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 My question is: Whaley says his job is to sign the 53. If it's his job, then why doesn't he make the decision to sign or tell TT he's gone? Seems to me Whaley won't or can't do his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 My question is: Whaley says his job is to sign the 53. If it's his job, then why doesn't he make the decision to sign or tell TT he's gone? Seems to me Whaley won't or can't do his job. For the reasons mentioned above, VAB. If the new coach likes Tyrod and is willing to abide by him, Whaley signs Tyrod long term. DW doesn't want to force Tyrod on a real coaching prospect who may want to go another way. ie: if we traded away picks for Sean Peyton, he may have a inroad to bring Drew Brees here. There'd be no room for him if we've committed $20+M to Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 For the reasons mentioned above, VAB. If the new coach likes Tyrod and is willing to abide by him, Whaley signs Tyrod long term. DW doesn't want to force Tyrod on a real coaching prospect who may want to go another way. ie: if we traded away picks for Sean Peyton, he may have a inroad to bring Drew Brees here. There'd be no room for him if we've committed $20+M to Tyrod. Too logical. That can't be the truth. Haven't you heard, everyone in the Bills organization is clueless and should be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 This thread is going to die quickly. It's much too reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) My question is: Whaley says his job is to sign the 53. If it's his job, then why doesn't he make the decision to sign or tell TT he's gone? Seems to me Whaley won't or can't do his job. his job IS to sign the 53 ...that are the best fit for the coach and system/scheme. Good grief. Edited January 4, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Too logical. That can't be the truth. Haven't you heard, everyone in the Bills organization is clueless and should be fired. Sorry.. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) ...isn't it logical and reasonable that the reason Whaley isn't making any definitive statements with respect to Tyrod is because he wants to hear from the HC candidates what they think of him and his potential ceiling? The Bills don't have to make a decision on the option until March, and certainly a new coach will be in place by then. Just throwing that out there...if you're interviewing for the HC job I think you'd like to have a say in who your starting QB will be, and any strong comments made by Whaley at this point (positive or negative) could impact the process. That's what he implied, I thought. He said they would wait til they hired an HC before evaluating anybody. Made the presser useless from a "future plans" standpoint, because Whaley would give no crumbs about players or even HC candidates. Edited January 4, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 ...isn't it logical and reasonable that the reason Whaley isn't making any definitive statements with respect to Tyrod is because he wants to hear from the HC candidates what they think of him and his potential ceiling? The Bills don't have to make a decision on the option until March, and certainly a new coach will be in place by then. Just throwing that out there...if you're interviewing for the HC job I think you'd like to have a say in who your starting QB will be, and any strong comments made by Whaley at this point (positive or negative) could impact the process. Good post. It would be irresponsible for Whaley to sign key skill position players before understanding the offensive and defensive systems that his future unknown coaches will be running. Would you sign a QB that's a statue in the pocket to a big contract and then hire a coach that's going to implement the spread option? Would you sign a Vince Wilfork type if the defense was going to be a 4-3 and not a 3-4? To me, it's easy to look at why Whaley isn't making comments as it pertains to guys like Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 My question is: Whaley says his job is to sign the 53. If it's his job, then why doesn't he make the decision to sign or tell TT he's gone? Seems to me Whaley won't or can't do his job. Maybe he wants input before making his decision GM's should not be totaliarian the need to be running the overall show and taking input from the "boots on the ground" That's what he implied, I thought. He said they would wait til they hired an HC before evaluating anybody. Made the presser useless from a "future plans" standpoint, because Whaley would give no crumbs about players or even HC candidates. Which is smart....lots of HC job opening this year around the league he should not tip his hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 At the risk of feeding this old news thread........we already hashed this out last week. The issue isn't why they benched Tyrod it is the bumbling tactless and subsequently incendiery handling of almost any remotely delicate matter. Terry Pegula having to set the record straight moments after his GM gave a PC that he and Whaley had been aware they were going to have to do FOR A WEEK is . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 This thread is going to die quickly. It's much too reasonable. 2nd that. Not enough knee jerk in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 his job IS to sign the 53 ...that are the best fit for the coach and system/scheme. Good grief. So if BB gets run over by a bus and Brady had an option on his contract coming up, the team should wait until they hire a new coach before exercising that option. You know Brady might not fit the new coaches scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) So if BB gets run over by a bus and Brady had an option on his contract coming up, the team should wait until they hire a new coach before exercising that option. You know Brady might not fit the new coaches scheme. do you see where there might be a difference between Tom Brady and Tyrod Taylor, in this hypothetical scenario? Edited January 4, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 do you see where there might be a difference between Tom Brady and Tyrod Taylor, in this hypothetical scenario? Best QB by far on each on the teams. Nope, I see no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 GTFOH with that logical crap. You trying to start trouble here. There is NO ROOM here for intelligent discourse. It's in the bylaws. #Everybody sucks! Fire them all! That's the only manta here. x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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