thebandit27 Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Regardless of "Techs" I would Think McDermott scheme would better fit our LB's with less of them covering man to man and more zone. Rex's D used a ton of zone. The bigger case for McDermott's scheme is that it would simplify responsibilities for everyone.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Posted January 11, 2017 @RapSheet A good sign: #Panthers DC Sean McDermott will have a 2nd interview with the #Bills today, source said. Could wrap up soon if it goes well
CountDorkula Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Rex's D used a ton of zone. The bigger case for McDermott's scheme is that it would simplify responsibilities for everyone. I was under the impression that Rex Scheme was more man to man than it was zone.
FireChan Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) I was under the impression that Rex Scheme was more man to man than it was zone. For the CB's. But they generally mixed it up. The zone blitz is a staple. Edited January 11, 2017 by FireChan
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Posted January 11, 2017 @AroundTheNFL Coaching tracker: Panthers DC Sean McDermott to get second head coaching interview with Bills today http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000767531/article/coaching-tracker-the-latest-on-interviews-moves
thebandit27 Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) I was under the impression that Rex Scheme was more man to man than it was zone. Mostly zone, but some man. http://www.footballxos.com/download/defense/pro-defense/2010-NY-Jets-Defense-Rex-Ryan.pdf For the CB's. But they generally mixed it up. The zone blitz is a staple. By my count, about 50% of Rex's defensive calls are Cover-6. Another 25% are either Cover-2, Cover-3, or Cover-4, and another 25% are zero (man). Edited January 11, 2017 by thebandit27
jeffismagic Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 The Jim Johnson 43 Defense relies primarily on zone reads, with Zone Blitzes executed by the Front Seven, as well as Zone Coverage in the Secondary, in order to make up for the deficiencies of the group, or to roll coverage onto a studly WR or TE. It all starts up front, with the lanes opened up by the DLine, creating gaps for the LB's to blitz through, creating pressure which forces the QB to chuck an inaccurate ball unto which the Secondary makes a play, hopefully forcing a turnover. The different units of the Defense must work in unison, or else the effectiveness of each unit will become moot. For example, if the Defensive Line is being blown off of the LOS, and can't do their job, it prohibits the blitzing LB's from completing their own tasks, allowing an opposing QB/RB to gash the defense as a whole. Furthermore, having subpar players executing a zone will create a weak link in the zone, or an open target for the opposing offense. The Jim Johnson Defense can be very effective, dialing up pressure from seemingly nowhere, as well as coercing a QB into phantom blitzes that can confuse the opposition. An effective Jim Johnson 43 Defense can keep an opposing offensive coordinator guessing all day, playing into the hands of an amalgamate defensive unit. http://www.catscratchreader.com/2012/2/28/2831884/the-panthers-defense-a-treatise-on-the-jim-johnson-4-3-part-i Nice little write up.
stevewin Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 The Jim Johnson 43 Defense relies primarily on zone reads, with Zone Blitzes executed by the Front Seven, as well as Zone Coverage in the Secondary, in order to make up for the deficiencies of the group, or to roll coverage onto a studly WR or TE. It all starts up front, with the lanes opened up by the DLine, creating gaps for the LB's to blitz through, creating pressure which forces the QB to chuck an inaccurate ball unto which the Secondary makes a play, hopefully forcing a turnover. The different units of the Defense must work in unison, or else the effectiveness of each unit will become moot. For example, if the Defensive Line is being blown off of the LOS, and can't do their job, it prohibits the blitzing LB's from completing their own tasks, allowing an opposing QB/RB to gash the defense as a whole. Furthermore, having subpar players executing a zone will create a weak link in the zone, or an open target for the opposing offense. The Jim Johnson Defense can be very effective, dialing up pressure from seemingly nowhere, as well as coercing a QB into phantom blitzes that can confuse the opposition. An effective Jim Johnson 43 Defense can keep an opposing offensive coordinator guessing all day, playing into the hands of an amalgamate defensive unit. http://www.catscratchreader.com/2012/2/28/2831884/the-panthers-defense-a-treatise-on-the-jim-johnson-4-3-part-i Nice little write up. But can it stop the quick slant over the middle
FireChan Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Mostly zone, but some man. http://www.footballxos.com/download/defense/pro-defense/2010-NY-Jets-Defense-Rex-Ryan.pdf By my count, about 50% of Rex's defensive calls are Cover-6. Another 25% are either Cover-2, Cover-3, or Cover-4, and another 25% are zero (man). Were there not Buster calls and the like, some mixed zone and man?
thebandit27 Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Were there not Buster calls and the like, some mixed zone and man? There's a lot of variability with checks etc. I was talking more to base calls. Honestly though, and I'm not being snarky here, take a look for yourself when you have time, because it's a picture-is-worth-a-thousand-words scenario. Trying to explain Rex's playbook is like trying to teach Swahili to a dog.
bobobonators Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Does McDermott come from the Andy Reid tree? If so thats a good thing, bc several good defensive coaches have come from that tree: Rivera, Harbaugh, Frazier come to mind. And Spags Edited January 11, 2017 by bobobonators
FireChan Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 There's a lot of variability with checks etc. I was talking more to base calls. Honestly though, and I'm not being snarky here, take a look for yourself when you have time, because it's a picture-is-worth-a-thousand-words scenario. Trying to explain Rex's playbook is like trying to teach Swahili to a dog. Crazy that it's online. I will right now.
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Does McDermott come from the Andy Reid tree? If so thats a good thing, bc several good defensive coaches have come from that tree: Rivera, Harbaugh, Frazier come to mind. And Spags Yeshttps://www.google.com/amp/blackandbluereview.com/andy-reid-ron-rivera-sean-mcdermott-panthers-chiefs-2016/amp/?client=safari
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 I was under the impression that Rex Scheme was more man to man than it was zone. If you ask our players they aren't sure either.
BigBuff423 Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Does McDermott come from the Andy Reid tree? If so thats a good thing, bc several good defensive coaches have come from that tree: Rivera, Harbaugh, Frazier come to mind. And Spags I'm not drawing any conclusions, but yes, he does....
bobobonators Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Yes https://www.google.com/amp/blackandbluereview.com/andy-reid-ron-rivera-sean-mcdermott-panthers-chiefs-2016/amp/?client=safari Haha. Thats awesome. Andy Reid has produced some really really good defensive minded coaches who have turned out to be good HC's in the NFL. Ironically the offensive guys havent been that great dont think.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 So a 1-tech and 2 9-techs instead of 2 3-techs and 2 Leos. Kinda. What I looked up had one DE playing the 9 (likely Hughes) whose job it is to speed rush and one 7 tech who lines up between THE TE and OT, and is in charge of run contain on heavier sets and pass rush on empty sets. That sounds exactly like Lawson.
Heitz Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 Haha. Thats awesome. Andy Reid has produced some really really good defensive minded coaches who have turned out to be good HC's in the NFL. Ironically the offensive guys havent been that great dont think. His full resume: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_McDermott Also, not sure if anyone read that SB Nation link I posted: http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2017/1/9/14184912/bftb-staff-decides-who-should-the-chargers-hire-to-be-head-coach ), But one of these guys states: "Was the Scouting Coordinator in Philadelphia and in his first year on the job McDermott helped draft the Eagles best quarterback in franchise history, Donovan McNabb." Does he still know what a QB looks like and can he help us find one!?
TheFunPolice Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 I'm all for a young and hungry coach. I loved the Rex hire but it sounds like the guy didn't want to work. I had a suspicion that was true when the D suddenly looked amazing vs NE* last year on MNF then went right back to sucking for the rest of the season. Rex put in the work that week. So frustrating to see what could/should have been had he wanted to grind all season. Just goes to show that he deserved to be fired. You can count on a new HC putting in the hrs.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Posted January 11, 2017 @viccarucci #Bills & Sean McDermott meeting today at Pegulas' home in Boca Raton, Fla. All signs point to finalizing a 5-year deal to become HC. @AlbertBreer As @viccarucci/@RapSheet said, Panthers DC Sean McDermott in Boca for a 2nd meeting with the Pegulas. Bills closing in on a decision on HC.
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