Dan Gross Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I would think so. This thread screams LAMP to me. Side note, if your manager assigns you work, you do it. If you refuse, that's grounds for being fired. 254926[/snapback] Well, it is as much "looking for advice" as plain old venting about a situation. As such, I wouldn't call this a LAMP myself. At least judging from responses, that's how this thread has turned, and as such it can be useful to anyone who has "issues" with their bosses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Well, it is as much "looking for advice" as plain old venting about a situation. As such, I wouldn't call this a LAMP myself. At least judging from responses, that's how this thread has turned, and as such it can be useful to anyone who has "issues" with their bosses... 254941[/snapback] You can make comments to a persons blog entry though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Just so this doesn't get moved to an undisclosed location... This really is a Bills related post after all. Clever ruse there Sue. We know what you're REALLY talking about - don't we?!!! It's not YOU and YOUR boss you've described going toe-to-toe in that tawdry little hallway shouting match. It's really the conflict between Drew and TD that you've described in your cleverly worded little construct. Well, WE'RE ON TO YOU NOW! There. Does that help it stay put? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCal Aaron Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I don't pretend to know the whole story here, but it's even harder to fire a good worker when the rest of the crew isn't pulling their weight and the issues that are becoming a problem said good worker PERTAIN to that. You're not only risking a lawsuit, but a serious drop in productivity. And given this manager's ineptitude at hiring workers (she probably thought the guy was cute for all we know), firing njsue at ANY time would be stupid. But for her sake, I hope she finds a new job and leaves before there are more problems. 254936[/snapback] Neither do I. But I don't assume that the Sue's manager is inept or her judgement in hiring Sue's coworker is skewed, or that Sue is the diggity-dog at work either. We can have fun arguing the point, but in traditional workplaces if you pull a verbal roundhouse kick on your superior, you're subject to sanctions that may include firing (or demotion, or being left to ferment in obscurity) even if you happen to be parking in the 'employee of the month' spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet baboo Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 pour beer on his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I've been holding back on that one, nice. Beer dumping, ala google 254994[/snapback] Ummmmm, this is under laws for kids? I think they need to worry more about getting caught with beer, then assualt for dumping beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Yeah, you're gonna wanna go ahead and never do that. How unprofessional can you be? I've had a boss who I absolutly couldn't STAND to even look at. This is while i was in high school and i was working in retail. I HATED her. But i would never THINK to have a "Shouting match" with her in front of other people. It came down to a meeting with her in her office, just her and I and I told her how I felt. Anyway, add a shouting match with a superior at work with taking monday off, and I have a weird feeling you'll have alot more time to be posting on TBD. 254779[/snapback] For the record: She started yelling at me. Told me to go out into the hallway. And continued to yell at me. Should I take this. No I dont think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Sue, call your HR generalist on Monday. Air your grievance with them and find out what the policies of your company are regarding being asigned to "do other people's work." Have you had a recent performance review by your manager? If so, there might be some clues in what she said that could give you an idea if she thinks you're a team player or not. Perhaps the HR person could give advice on how to handle your particular situation. That might include posting to a different department if there are openings available. Good luck. I've worked for plenty of jerks in my day. After awhile it gets very tiring lifting them to the heights they want to achieve. 254937[/snapback] An example of a Weak manager; Hires slacking employees Overlooks there slacking Dumps the work on the most dependable worker under her belt THAT IS ME To avoid dealing with the problem. Because of this my work is getting backed up. I asked her for some assistance because one of my Reps needed my help. It just burned me up that I had to tell her I couldnt at the moment because I was doing someonelses job. My unit does not work as a team. Some of these workers are in there lower twenties. They are constantly goofing off. The new guy hangs out with these people. Plus he is lazy. For 2 months a few of these people where out on sick leave. Guess who worked there desk plus my own work. Yours truly. What I wont allow as a Human being is to be treated like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 An example of a Weak manager; Hires slacking employees Overlooks there slacking Dumps the work on the most dependable worker under her belt THAT IS ME To avoid dealing with the problem. Because of this my work is getting backed up. I asked her for some assistance because one of my Reps needed my help. It just burned me up that I had to tell her I couldnt at the moment because I was doing someonelses job. My unit does not work as a team. Some of these workers are in there lower twenties. They are constantly goofing off. The new guy hangs out with these people. Plus he is lazy. For 2 months a few of these people where out on sick leave. Guess who worked there desk plus my own work. Yours truly. What I wont allow as a Human being is to be treated like crap. 255224[/snapback] I have two things to say about this, in regards to slacking and goofing off. 1. I assume that of your 5,836 posts, all were made off the clock because a productive employee would never surf the web on company time. 2. Are they hiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 I have two things to say about this, in regards to slacking and goofing off. 1. I assume that of your 5,836 posts, all were made off the clock because a productive employee would never surf the web on company time. 2. Are they hiring? 255298[/snapback] I took a personal day because of the Noreaster coming today. Dont want to be stuck driving in the bad weather. Yes I dont use the internet while at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Sue, call your HR generalist on Monday. Air your grievance with them and find out what the policies of your company are regarding being asigned to "do other people's work." Have you had a recent performance review by your manager? If so, there might be some clues in what she said that could give you an idea if she thinks you're a team player or not. Perhaps the HR person could give advice on how to handle your particular situation. That might include posting to a different department if there are openings available. Good luck. I've worked for plenty of jerks in my day. After awhile it gets very tiring lifting them to the heights they want to achieve. 254937[/snapback] That would be corporate. However the lady that hired me is no longer in that position. So I am stuck with this nut case that keeps hiring these idiots. Besides I feel that my comment to the office manager really opened his eyes to the crap that is happening. You cant see everything that is going on. However, you know the what is when someone brings it to your attention. I am a hard worker that goes above and beyond to do my job. But, lately I feel like I am being severly taken advantage off. Personally I think this lady needs to see a psychiatrist. She has issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Personally I think this lady needs to see a psychiatrist. She has issues. Then my advice would be to do your job as well as you can, watch your mouth and you will eventually be waving to her as she is exited out of the building. The great thing about !@#$ bosses is that they do get canned eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 For the record: She started yelling at me. Told me to go out into the hallway. And continued to yell at me. Should I take this. No I dont think so. 255222[/snapback] Should you take this? From a Superior? Yes. It sucks, but that's how it goes. Unless you have enough money saved where you can go a few weeks without pay, do the professional thing: Take a yelling at. What is yelling back going to do except make you feel better for 3 seconds? After you get yelled at, if you feel its not justified, go to your HR director. That's exactly what they are there for. I can just tell by your attitude on this board combined with this story that "Nothing is Sue's fault. It's EVERYONE else's fault" (a perfect example would be this recent new "attitude" on the board. Everyone else has at least said they will try to be better, including LABillz, myself, and BF. You just kept saying how it was about time things changed. As if nothing was your fault). Good luck finding a new job, but there are some common sense and professional ways to handle things. Yelling at your superior, even if they are yelling first, is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUBillsFan Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Methinks that njsue's office can't afford to let her go, shouting match or not. She probably would have been gone Friday if that weren't the case. 254789[/snapback] Anyone can be replaced especially the ones that fight with their bosses.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Then my advice would be to do your job as well as you can, watch your mouth and you will eventually be waving to her as she is exited out of the building. The great thing about !@#$ bosses is that they do get canned eventually. 255354[/snapback] You mean like "what goes around comes around". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Should you take this? From a Superior? Yes. It sucks, but that's how it goes. Unless you have enough money saved where you can go a few weeks without pay, do the professional thing: Take a yelling at. What is yelling back going to do except make you feel better for 3 seconds? After you get yelled at, if you feel its not justified, go to your HR director. That's exactly what they are there for. I can just tell by your attitude on this board combined with this story that "Nothing is Sue's fault. It's EVERYONE else's fault" (a perfect example would be this recent new "attitude" on the board. Everyone else has at least said they will try to be better, including LABillz, myself, and BF. You just kept saying how it was about time things changed. As if nothing was your fault). Good luck finding a new job, but there are some common sense and professional ways to handle things. Yelling at your superior, even if they are yelling first, is not one of them. 255357[/snapback] The only right thing that I do an will always do IS STICK UP FOR MY OWN DEFENSE. Whether at work or here on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Should you take this? From a Superior? Yes. It sucks, but that's how it goes. Unless you have enough money saved where you can go a few weeks without pay, do the professional thing: Take a yelling at. What is yelling back going to do except make you feel better for 3 seconds? After you get yelled at, if you feel its not justified, go to your HR director. That's exactly what they are there for. I can just tell by your attitude on this board combined with this story that "Nothing is Sue's fault. It's EVERYONE else's fault" (a perfect example would be this recent new "attitude" on the board. Everyone else has at least said they will try to be better, including LABillz, myself, and BF. You just kept saying how it was about time things changed. As if nothing was your fault). Good luck finding a new job, but there are some common sense and professional ways to handle things. Yelling at your superior, even if they are yelling first, is not one of them. 255357[/snapback] I would have to agree with Stogan 100% on this, in regards to work place behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 I would have to agree with Stogan 100% on this. 255371[/snapback] However, I do have several employees that feel the same way about this lady. So I am not the only one. As for keeping my mouth shut, no guarantees. There a limit to the amount of abuse a human being can take. As for me starting trouble on this board. You are overlooking the real people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 As for me starting trouble on this board. You are overlooking the real people. 255372[/snapback] Sue, no offense but please look very closely in the mirror. I have never been one to slam you but you are wrong, IMHO here. Please look within. I have to agree with Steve, and that doesn't happen very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Sue, no offense but please look very closely in the mirror. I have never been one to slam you but you are wrong, IMHO here. Please look within. I have to agree with Steve, and that doesn't happen very often. 255374[/snapback] I only reply to those who shove it my way. Other than that if you have not met me in person. You an anyone else cant judge me. Anyone who has met me will say different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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