Peter Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Um, no. Rob is gone. I thought that Rex was reluctant to implicate anyone because it was Rob. I think you are wrong on two counts. First, Rex does not throw anyone under the bus. For example, he had every opportunity to do so with Mario last year but did not. Second, whatever you may think of Rob, he was not in charge of concussion protocol or keeping track of availability of defensive backs. I suspect that the information did not flow up from either the NFL concussion protocol medical staff, the Bills medical staff, or one of the defensive backs coaches.
1billsfan Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 JMJ pray for us. The obsession with damning Whaley for not having a press conference today is laughable. Get a life. The media and people who are drawn into the drama have this strange need to be perpetually outraged. Get a life is right. Whaley will have his end of the season press conference on Monday. The season was over last Sunday. This final game has become an exhibition game. We can wait five days to hear from Doug Whaley.
K-9 Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 It should have been anybody other than a coach who reported to Ryan. Anybody in upper management would have fit the bill. Pegula, Whaley, Brandon, somebody should have had the sack to step up to the podium and answer the questions before Lynn went out there. Because like everybody else on earth they have a job to do on a daily basis and they can't wait until Monday to get to work. They'll ask anybody from the Bills organization any question regarding the football team - particularly ones that involve the recent firing of the HC - to anybody who steps up to answer questions. Not sure how anybody puts this on the media. A Lynn didn't have a press conference to announce the firing of Rex Ryan. He had a press conference as part of the weekly Wednesday coach's presser during game week. Perhaps the media in attendance should have been smarter and realized that instead of DELIBERATELY attempting to make that press conference something it was not intended to be. Not to mention that Whaley is out scouting and not in town. Let me guess, he isn't even LOOKING at underclassman who haven't declared. I think a statement would have been sufficient by Whaley upon the podium pre Lynn. Mr Lynn is not going to answer any questions in regard to the FO . Keep it football please That is a job for Berchtold. Save the keystrokes! The lack of a PC announcing the firing of the HC by someone other than the guy who started the season as the running backs coach is a major gaffe on the part of the Bills and it serves to bolster national opinion that this franchise is what it has been for most of its existence: a joke. A handful of die hard Kool Aid drinkers on this board will never see that, but they don't see a whole lot anyway. Once again, Lynn didn't announce the firing of the HC. The ONLY person in a superior position to Rex Ryan who had the power to fire him was Pegula. And Pegula should have announced it if anyone should have.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 A Lynn didn't have a press conference to announce the firing of Rex Ryan. He had a press conference as part of the weekly Wednesday coach's presser during game week. (...) Once again, Lynn didn't announce the firing of the HC. The ONLY person in a superior position to Rex Ryan who had the power to fire him was Pegula. And Pegula should have announced it if anyone should have. 100% correct on the press conference, its purpose, and the fact that Lynn did not announce the firing of the HC. Pegula did announce it. He put out a press release on Tues around noon which was quoted in TBN, NYT, on the Buffalo Bills website, and other media. It might have been nice if Pegula had a press conference and fielded questions rather than just making an announcement by press release, but that is his choice.
Augie Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Pegula erred in hiring him, but he learned. Now the GM appears in charge, but pegs erred in the termination. He will learn and get things right. He is smarter than 99.9% of us, and he's committed to winning. Doesn't mean it will happen, but I like our odds. Maybe it's a good thing our owner is not a media hound. (OK, the flip side of this error.) Better camera shy than Jeerrruuuh in Dallas.
BADOLBILZ Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 You read wrong. I was talking about Rex and why it wasn't at all the same. A Rod was controversial, most everyone wanted Rex gone, wasn't a surprise cut like A Rod it was expected, Rex getting fired had zero to do with money, A Rod had a lot to do with money. Maybe you don't follow baseball.........but ARod performing terribly for a year and a half and being cut with a fortune still owed to him........and Rex performing terribly for most of two years and being fired with a fortune still owed to him is very parallel indictment of the organizations decision making..........Cashman took the heat.......Bills did not.
K-9 Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 100% correct on the press conference, its purpose, and the fact that Lynn did not announce the firing of the HC. Pegula did announce it. He put out a press release on Tues around noon which was quoted in TBN, NYT, on the Buffalo Bills website, and other media. It might have been nice if Pegula had a press conference and fielded questions rather than just making an announcement by press release, but that is his choice. Well, when the masses manufacture enough outrage, common sense is tossed aside in the name of a good witch hunt. I get the sense that Pegula isn't very media savvy, so I fault Berchtold for not giving him better advice. Then again, given that it's a game week and there are actual players and coaches trying to do their jobs amidst the circus, I can fully understand why they would wait until next week.
Kelly the Dog Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Maybe you don't follow baseball.........but ARod performing terribly for a year and a half and being cut with a fortune still owed to him........and Rex performing terribly for most of two years and being fired with a fortune still owed to him is very parallel indictment of the organizations decision making..........Cashman took the heat.......Bills did not. The money owed Rex had zero affect on his termination. The money owed ARod had direct affect.
Coach Tuesday Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 The money owed Rex had zero affect on his termination. The money owed ARod had direct affect. Actually I think that the money owed ARod had a direct effect on keeping him as long as they did.
GG Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Maybe you don't follow baseball.........but ARod performing terribly for a year and a half and being cut with a fortune still owed to him........and Rex performing terribly for most of two years and being fired with a fortune still owed to him is very parallel indictment of the organizations decision making..........Cashman took the heat.......Bills did not. The only person who took the heat for ARod's departure was Giradi for sitting him on the bench for his final week. There were zero complaints for the Yankees move from the NY media.
MAJBobby Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Media has changed Instead of just presenting facts on both sides and allowing the reader to make an informed opinion. Its offer hot takes and tell reader what opinion should be
Kelly the Dog Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Actually I think that the money owed ARod had a direct effect on keeping him as long as they did.Agreed. Another element that made it nothing like Rex.
BADOLBILZ Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 The money owed Rex had zero affect on his termination. The money owed ARod had direct affect. No the money had no affect in either case. The Yankees and Bills saved zero $ by firing/cutting Rex/ARod. Both contracts were guaranteed. They were terminated because they were both performance liabilities. The fact that the teams over-committed to them is just embarrassing for the organizations.
Kelly the Dog Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 No the money had no affect in either case. The Yankees and Bills saved zero $ by firing/cutting Rex/ARod. Both contracts were guaranteed. They were terminated because they were both performance liabilities. The fact that the teams over-committed to them is just embarrassing for the organizations. As Coach Tuesday said, money had a big affect on when it was done. They likely would have done it earlier without the big money. As soon as they decided the money wasn't as killing they let him go. So money had a big factor. That was not the case with Rex. Besides this is not what we should be discussing.
Peter Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 The money owed Rex had zero affect on his termination. The money owed ARod had direct affect. Apparently it was the money that . . . could have been owed to TT.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Apparently it was the money that . . . could have been owed to TT. I'm sure that factored into it - shows a coach so wedded to his own plans he's unable to consider organizational needs - but I still think it was the play calling and especially the 10 men on field that cooked the goose.
Kelly the Dog Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Apparently it was the money that . . . could have been owed to TT. The Pegulas have shown repeatedly they don't mind eating contracts.
BADOLBILZ Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 As Coach Tuesday said, money had a big affect on when it was done. They likely would have done it earlier without the big money. As soon as they decided the money wasn't as killing they let him go. So money had a big factor. That was not the case with Rex. Besides this is not what we should be discussing. Yeah you guys are being idiots with this minutia. ARod hit about .100 over the last half of 2015 after a tremendous first half and the Yankees were desperately hoping for him to return to form in 2016.........because they were on a mandate to not spend as they have been trying desperately to get below the luxury tax threshold to reset their tax rate......and the contract was guaranteed so they had zero reason or motivation to cut him. The Bills were also desperately hoping Rex would return to form. But I guess the Pegula's weren't thinking about life sans Rex after 2015. Nope. Never occurred to them back then that this might happen.
MAJBobby Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Apparently it was the money that . . . could have been owed to TT. And yet another smart business decision from the GM you think is the spawn of satan
Coach Tuesday Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Not sure how we got off course here. ARod throughly wore out his welcome. His GM publicly ragged on him and they had a public spat (through ARod's agent) and so on that level it made more sense for his GM to face the music about his departure. Not sure what the hell this has to do with Rex.
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