dave mcbride Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 the same GM that traded back and risked losing him, brought in orton to replace him, brought in tyrod and cassell and made it a completely open competition, etc.... you are latching on to news narratives that just arent backed up by his actions. hell, if you love the news narratives, whaley allegedly wanted cardale last time we opened this can of worms. finding out if EJ belongs as a backup (or possibly part of a competition) next year is not a bad thing. also, this move would be happening regardless of who the backup is. He brought in other people because he was working with coaches who HE didn't hire and who told him that they thought Manuel sucked and they wanted someone else.
Buffalo Boy Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 EJ is starting vs Jets as per Adam Schefter. Don't get too excited. It's not because the team thinks he's better than Tyrod. They just don't want to risk Tyrod getting injured and his contract extension kicking in. Would like to see Cardale too so hopefully he dresses as #2. I would be shocked if Jones didn't see some time.
MAJBobby Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Whats so funny is the people upset with the audition comment use one game MIA as a justification to committ to Tyrod long term
CSBill Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Maybe EJ lights it up and somebody trades us a first for it....Like we did for Rob Johnson after he played great in a meaningless game Wouldn't that be a hoot. But isn't he a free agent after this season? Denver would take him today.
dave mcbride Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Here's what I think's going on with both players: Tyrod: Why play him in meaningless game with the huge risk of injury (and possible large payment)? It's a sound move regardless of how strongly they feel about his play or how they might address his option EJ: If anything, this is a tryout for the backup QB role, not starter - From that perspective, it makes perfect sense - One last look to decide whether we should retain him for no. 2 or 3 No, because if the Bills keep him they owe somewhere $12-15 million next year. Next years is the option year on his rookie contract, and like Gilmore he was a first rounder. It's why Gilmore was paid so much this season.
YoloinOhio Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 They can't play Tyrod. They don't want to play Cardale yet. Who else is there... and they haven't seen EJ in this offense for well over a year and have never seen him in this offense with the starting WRs. Not sure what the issue is.
xsoldier54 Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Un-effing-believable. Tyrod Taylor, whatever his flaws, has had an objectively solid season and has played well lately. Manuel's contract is up and he is not as good as Taylor. Some here are no doubt looking forward to celebrating drafting 13th instead of 17th -- as if that will change things. It's a smart move business wise. The game means nothing and if Taylor gets injured, a la Mariotta and Carr last week, then Buffalo is on the hook for the remainder of his contract. Makes no sense to play him until they decide if he will be brought back on a new contract.
Dorkington Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 What this does: - Protects the Bills options regarding Tyrod - Lets the Bills/Lynn/Whaley have one last look at EJ (will help decide his future here as well) - Let EJ have an opportunity to 'try out' one last time before hitting the FA market - Protects Cardale from being thrown into the fire when he isn't ready, and will possibly be learning a new offense next year anyways All in all, a safe move. I don't see how anyone can be upset about this.
PolishDave Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 And it also might be that they don't mind losing this Sunday if it was to happen.
dave mcbride Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Wouldn't that be a hoot. But isn't he a free agent after this season? Denver would take him today. He is a FA unless the Bills pick up his option years, which is a fortune. No one is trading a first for anyone who lights it up against a team as bad as the Jets are right now.
PolishDave Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 It's a smart move business wise. The game means nothing and if Taylor gets injured, a la Mariotta and Carr last week, then Buffalo is on the hook for the remainder of his contract. Makes no sense to play him until they decide if he will be brought back on a new contract. Looks like that will be up to the new coach.
BringBackOrton Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 the same GM that traded back and risked losing him, brought in orton to replace him, brought in tyrod and cassell and made it a completely open competition, etc.... you are latching on to news narratives that just arent backed up by his actions. hell, if you love the news narratives, whaley allegedly wanted cardale last time we opened this can of worms. finding out if EJ belongs as a backup (or possibly part of a competition) next year is not a bad thing. also, this move would be happening regardless of who the backup is. The risk of losing EJ was overblown and once he was drafted, it became Whaley dead set on proving himself right. He traded two firsts to prove EJ was the guy and so we couldn't take a QB high in 2015. He only brought in Orton after Marrone freaked out, Whaley was perfectly content to play out 2014 with EJ, which is why he was the only real QB on the roster all summer. He traded for Cassel, but just like Kolb, that was competition that you could say "they are a little better but EJ has more potential!" And still play him. He signed TT to placate Rex and had serious doubts he could challenge EeeeeJ. Only after TT made a pro bowl, Whaley extended him but that's only because the only thing more important to Doug than EJ is his own job security. If Whaley wanted Cardale, he'd be out there. He got Rex fired to play EJ for a reason.
NoSaint Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 No, because if the Bills keep him they owe somewhere $12-15 million next year. Next years is the option year on his rookie contract, and like Gilmore he was a first rounder. It's why Gilmore was paid so much this season. the option is already declined. if they keep him it will be with a freshly negotiated contract.
dave mcbride Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 What this does: - Protects the Bills options regarding Tyrod - Lets the Bills/Lynn/Whaley have one last look at EJ (will help decide his future here as well) - Let EJ have an opportunity to 'try out' one last time before hitting the FA market - Protects Cardale from being thrown into the fire when he isn't ready, and will possibly be learning a new offense next year anyways All in all, a safe move. I don't see how anyone can be upset about this. It's about what it signals regarding both Manuel and Taylor. The former is a lost cause who will not be on the Bills next year and the other guy is one that a sensible team would probably keep given the lack of credible alternatives next season.
dpberr Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 This game is going to be like the Pro Bowl. There will be little effort by either defense and both teams will run up and down the field. Why bother? Both teams have waived their respective white flags and the Jets quit playing three games ago.
dave mcbride Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 the option is already declined. if they keep him it will be with a freshly negotiated contract. How does that work? I thought that the option only came up after season 4, as with Gilmore last year.
PO16FFS Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Who is gonna be the first receiver injured by the high throws?
Peter Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Does this mean Rex got fired because he was going to play Tyrod rather than someone else?!? Did Rex negotiate that provision in that contract?
bobobonators Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Whaley and the Bills definitely want to lose and position better position themselves in the draft.
metzelaars_lives Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Whats so funny is the people upset with the audition comment use one game MIA as a justification to committ to Tyrod long term 47 total TD's 12 INT's Top 10 scoring offense both seasons Pro Bowl alternate both seasons Leading rusher amongst NFL QB's both seasons Least turnovers in a season in NFL history (2016) Literally played in games with Walt Powell, Justin Hunter and Brandon Tate as his primary targets 15-14 record with garbage defense and joke of a head coach Keep on preaching brotha. Edited December 27, 2016 by metzelaars_lives
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