MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 You do know that the bills are a the number one rushing team because of tyrod as well right? He gets yards himself. He opens holes for shady because defences respect him. The bills play calls are heavy run because that is their strength. They are not a passing team. Part of the reason is because Tyrod is not a great passer. And part is because their offensive game plan. But you can't discount Tyrod when the bills get a lot of rushing yards, because a lot of the time that is him, or the defence to respect him as a runner which opens up holes I agree sir. Glad I got someone on the same page as me Yep because Shady was trash before he has Tyrod Taylor as his QB. Yes TT helps the run offense but not nearly as much as people want to make it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 And in defense of Tyrod, he is done what is asked of him by the coaches. We do not know what a heavy passing attack looks like with Tyrod or how good he would be in one because it hasnt been attempted yet. Yes, we run the ball effectively but we also have a gamebreaker WR who we have not been able to tap into yet. I believe Lynn would be able to work on this in the offseason (assuming he ultimately becomes HC) And in defense of Tyrod, he is done what is asked of him by the coaches. We do not know what a heavy passing attack looks like with Tyrod or how good he would be in one because it hasnt been attempted yet. Yes, we run the ball effectively but we also have a gamebreaker WR who we have not been able to tap into yet. I believe Lynn would be able to work on this in the offseason (assuming he ultimately becomes HC) Exactly. The funny part is, the bills were inside the 10 in the final drive in regulation. They ran the ball 3 times for 0 yards. Then converted on 4th down. But if he didn't complete that 4th down pass, people would have blamed tyrod for saying he is anti clutch where they barely even gave him a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I am not a Tyrod supporter by any means. But he showed something today. A glimmer of hope that he can be relied upon. I think Tyrod is still somewhat of a liability. But I think the defense may be just as much of a liability if not more. We have zero pressure. You know he showed it Seattle too. Then quickly regressed back to what he has been Exactly. The funny part is, the bills were inside the 10 in the final drive in regulation. They ran the ball 3 times for 0 yards. Then converted on 4th down. But if he didn't complete that 4th down pass, people would have blamed tyrod for saying he is anti clutch where they barely even gave him a chance Yeah because the OC doesnt trust him instead woukd rather give it to what really makes this offense Shady and the Run game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 Yep because Shady was trash before he has Tyrod Taylor as his QB. Yes TT helps the run offense but not nearly as much as people want to make it I never said Shady was trash... But look at the All 22 and look how the outside defenders stay home whenever the bills hand it off to Shady or Gillislee. That alone opens up massive holes, cause if they crash, Tyrod is keeping it and running a long way You know he showed it Seattle too. Then quickly regressed back to what he has been Yeah because the OC doesnt trust him instead woukd rather give it to what really makes this offense Shady and the Run game Or maybe you can just accept it was stupidity play calling, especially the 3rd down play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) I never said Shady was trash... But look at the All 22 and look how the outside defenders stay home whenever the bills hand it off to Shady or Gillislee. That alone opens up massive holes, cause if they crash, Tyrod is keeping it and running a long way Or maybe you can just accept it was stupidity play calling, especially the 3rd down play? Cool again it is not as much of an impact as people think. You know what thise outside defenders are doing staying home its called setting the Edge something maybe our defenders should do more often and doesnt have nuch to do with TT. Now the Spy does but not the edge defenders setting the edge Do it once sure stupidity twice OK. But many many many tines this year Lynn has taken the Ball out of TT hands when game on line Edited December 25, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 Cool again it is not as much of an impact as people think. You know what thise outside defenders are doing staying home its called setting the Edge something maybe our defenders should do more often and doesnt have nuch to do with TT. Now the Spy does but not the edge defenders setting the edge Do it once sure stupidity twice OK. But many many many tines this year Lynn has taken the Ball out of TT hands when game on line It's a huge impact on the run game.. How can you say that it's not? If Taylor was not a threat of a runner, people crash on Shady and make easy tackles for 1 or 2 yard gains... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) It's a huge impact on the run game.. How can you say that it's not? If Taylor was not a threat of a runner, people crash on Shady and make easy tackles for 1 or 2 yard gains...And Shady bounced like Bell did when edge defenders do not honor their responsibilities and set the edge. Defensive concepts dude they are doubg nothing special but their Job. Now they Spy does help Shady. But fact is Bills have a too two OL (Run Blocking) and an Elite RB Their Run game would be just as effective with any QB in the pocket. You think the run game would all of the sudden fall off pace with Derek Carr at QB? Edited December 25, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 And Shady bounced like Bell did when edge defenders do not honor their responsibilities and set the edge. On some plays yes?... But a lot of the bills runs are read option plays up the middle... They get massive holes between the tackles and guards because they have to respect taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 On some plays yes?... But a lot of the bills runs are read option plays up the middle... They get massive holes between the tackles and guards because they have to respect taylor Ok again Shady found Big Holes in Philly without TT and the read option. Lets give credit for the tun game where it is due. Shady, Mike, and OL ooo and Felton. All have more of an inpact than TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 Ok again Shady found Big Holes in Philly without TT and the read option. Lets give credit for the tun game where it is due. Shady, Mike, and OL ooo and Felton. All have more of an inpact than TT Ok again Shady found Big Holes in Philly without TT and the read option. Lets give credit for the tun game where it is due. Shady, Mike, and OL ooo and Felton. All have more of an inpact than TT His best years came with Mike Vick and Tyrod as QBs. Read options from a mobile QB. Not a coincidence buddy. Mobile QBs play a huge role in the run game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) His best years came with Mike Vick and Tyrod as QBs. Read options from a mobile QB. Not a coincidence buddy. Mobile QBs play a huge role in the run game Yep Mike Vick and Tyrod are the reasons Shady is Shady the COT is funny And by Vick youmean Foles Edited December 25, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 Yep Mike Gixk abs Tyrod are the reasons Shady is Shady the COT is funny Lol you are a stubborn man, whatever you say sir. We will agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Lol you are a stubborn man, whatever you say sir. We will agree to disagree Shadys Best year was with Foles though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 What about all the other games the past two seasons lol Guess a MIA loss defines TT as good to go. You clearly have an agenda or just dont know the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 You clearly have an agenda or just dont know the game Sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Guys, give it a rest. Agree to disagree and have a Merry Christmas. Good night. God bless everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Once it got going, the offense was impressive today. We passed effectively. We ran effectively. We piled up yards and scored a lot of points. But did we see the Tyrod of the future today? Or will he regress to his inaccurate, happy-feet self once more? I won't pretend to know the answer. I get why some see signs of promise in today's performance. And I get why others are more cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Tyrod is not the biggest problem and if he played like yesterday 10 or 12 times a season he wouldn't even be a problem. But he doesn't. If the Bills can get a Quarterback they like in the draft they should pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 15-14 as a starter. Not too shabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 15-14 as a starter. Not too shabby. Yep not Shabby at all. Screams not good enough. Heck give him another extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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