jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 Are people posting still loaded from yesterday because I am having trouble reading some posts as some letters arent even close to words.
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Author Posted December 25, 2016 If it wasnt Christmas I would tell you how pompous you are and how impossible you are to discuss anything on here. But it is Christmas so I won't. Really ok maybe, maybe not. Seems i can have a conversation and even agree with someone did it once in this thread
Kirby Jackson Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 Yeah all TT nothibf to do with the OL and an Elite RB it is Tyrod the reason the run game is so great.It's not all or nothing (just like the passing game). TT, Shady, Felton, the OL, Lynn are all a part of the success of the running game. The scheme works though because TT is mobile enough to execute it. Â The passing game has struggled for a variety of reasons. For 1 they don't throw the ball often so gross stats will be down. That's common sense. TT has missed guys, the best receiver by 10 miles has missed the majority of the season, they have practice squad WRs, Mills struggles in pass pro, and they don't target Sammy enough. At the same time they never turn it over and score a lot of points.
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Author Posted December 25, 2016 are you really being a dick about this? I am not the one that chimed in with nothing to add
Kirby Jackson Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 Ok what dies he bring to the table. 7 points , 1 point. What is his the expected point gain with TT playing QBThe answer is none of us know and I don't want to find out. I'm comfortable rolling with our 26 PPG offense. The only reason to change it is if we think that the alternative would improve that. I don't want to take that chance even though it's possible that someone else would produce more.
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Author Posted December 25, 2016 It's not all or nothing (just like the passing game). TT, Shady, Felton, the OL, Lynn are all a part of the success of the running game. The scheme works though because TT is mobile enough to execute it. Â The passing game has struggled for a variety of reasons. For 1 they don't throw the ball often so gross stats will be down. That's common sense. TT has missed guys, the best receiver by 10 miles has missed the majority of the season, they have practice squad WRs, Mills struggles in pass pro, and they don't target Sammy enough. At the same time they never turn it over and score a lot of points. I do get that the scheme helps the run game i agree it does. Â But Shady would excel outside this scheme. He has multiple times before. His best year as a RB Nick Foles was the QB. Â That is why i dont think any drop of in run game is significant enough to really hurt. So if it doesnt really hurt i dont think it hurts the point total at all either. Â I think i can offset any minor loss in running game with improving the passing game significantly by getting more weapons, a RT and can do such because i freed up that 16M in cap space.
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 25 % while also losing on the passing numbers seems significant.
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Author Posted December 25, 2016 The answer is none of us know and I don't want to find out. I'm comfortable rolling with our 26 PPG offense. The only reason to change it is if we think that the alternative would improve that. I don't want to take that chance even though it's possible that someone else would produce more. But there is an advanced stat that showed it. Not sure where it is thats why i always ask somone that mentions scoring because i think maybe that have it. Â I know i have seen it once earlier in season but cant remember were
Kirby Jackson Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 Without TT stats the Bills ranked Top 5 in rushing last year. Â Same this year so again were is the major regression compared to the rest of the league? You can't just pull out his stats because the threat of him is a HUGE reason the running game works. As an example, would the zone read work as well with Bledsoe and Shady as with TT and Shady? If they tried to run that play with both guys and handed to Shady each time which play would likely be more successful? They are 100% going right at Shady in the Bledsoe scenario and they have a decision to make in the Tyrod scenario. The yards go to Shady in either case but the threat of TT gives him more time and space to operate.
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Author Posted December 25, 2016 25 % while also losing on the passing numbers seems significant. Waitiing for something meaningful
Kirby Jackson Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 But there is an advanced stat that showed it. Not sure where it is thats why i always ask somone that mentions scoring because i think maybe that have it. Â I know i have seen it once earlier in season but cant remember were Even still its subjective
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Author Posted December 25, 2016 You can't just pull out his stats because the threat of him is a HUGE reason the running game works. As an example, would the zone read work as well with Bledsoe and Shady as with TT and Shady? If they tried to run that play with both guys and handed to Shady each time which play would likely be more successful? They are 100% going right at Shady in the Bledsoe scenario and they have a decision to make in the Tyrod scenario. The yards go to Shady in either case but the threat of TT gives him more time and space to operate. Again then why does shady get over 1600 yards with Nick Foles as a QB Â People want to give way to much credit to this QB for things he doesnt have a huge impact on. Even still its subjective So essentially like your TT inpact on the run game
Kirby Jackson Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 I do get that the scheme helps the run game i agree it does. Â But Shady would excel outside this scheme. He has multiple times before. His best year as a RB Nick Foles was the QB. Â That is why i dont think any drop of in run game is significant enough to really hurt. So if it doesnt really hurt i dont think it hurts the point total at all either. Â I think i can offset any minor loss in running game with improving the passing game significantly by getting more weapons, a RT and can do such because i freed up that 16M in cap space. If the drop is offset by the increase in passing game than in all for it. They have to produce more than 26 PPG for it to be worth it to me. I just don't see it with the options out there. Romo to me is the possible exception and he comes with a great deal of risk and an equal to higher price tag.
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 Waitiing for something meaningful I would expect nothing else from you dismissing everything even when you are getting absolutely destroyed on this thread. Serious question Bobby. You are so opposed to Tyrod that you are now posting 20 hours a day. This really makes me wonder what kind of person hates so much. I have to say it. Is it a race issue with you? Google Western New York WVIB study. Is this you Bobby?
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Author Posted December 25, 2016 If the drop is offset by the increase in passing game than in all for it. They have to produce more than 26 PPG for it to be worth it to me. I just don't see it with the options out there. Romo to me is the possible exception and he comes with a great deal of risk and an equal to higher price tag. Here is another scenario offense scoring regresses closer to 22-24 PPG but freeing up space gets you starters on defense and they reduce their PPG by 3-5 again does it matter. Â I know hard to say things like that and all hypothetical but i can offset losses elsewhere and i guess that is the point of this what CAN I NOT offset for the next two years if i let TT walk. I would expect nothing else from you dismissing everything even when you are getting absolutely destroyed on this thread. Serious question Bobby. You are so opposed to Tyrod that you are now posting 20 hours a day. This really makes me wonder what kind of person hates so much. I have to say it. Is it a race issue with you? Google Western New York WVIB study. Is this you Bobby? Still waiting, having a good conversation with Kirby try to add to it
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Here is another scenario offense scoring regresses closer to 22-24 PPG but freeing up space gets you starters on defense and they reduce their PPG by 3-5 again does it matter. I know hard to say things like that and all hypothetical but i can offset losses elsewhere and i guess that is the point of this what CAN I NOT offset for the next two years if i let TT walk. Â Still waiting, having a good conversation with Kirby try to add to it I crushed you with numbers and the only thing you can do is ignore. You are embarassing yourself. We collectively are waiting to your response Bobby but lackthereoff also speaks volumes Edited December 25, 2016 by jms62
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Author Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) I crahed you with numbers and the only thing you can do is ignore. You are embarassing yourself. We collectively are waiting to your response Bobby but lackthereoff also speaks volumes 25 percent still means top 5 in the league. Not significant. But its ok try to frame it to make it look loke TT is responsible for a Top end running game with an Elite RB Edited December 25, 2016 by MAJBobby
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 25 percent still means top 5 in the league. Not significant How about the loss of passing yards based on career stats and higher INT rate. Still waiting for your response but lackthereof speaks volumes.
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Author Posted December 25, 2016 How about the loss of passing yards based on career stats and higher INT rate. Still waiting for your response but lackthereof speaks volumes. Talked about that already with Bobo reading helps
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 Talked about that already with Bobo reading helps Not going to search for your prior posts you are no where near being important enough. Ignore and deflect.
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