Albwan Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) lol...the left is forced to side with Iran, people who murder Jews, illegal immigration, crashing the economy... all because of their hatred of Trump Its literally hilarious watching this. Edited January 3, 2020 by Albwan 2
DC Tom Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I love how all of these arm chair internet critics like to second guess every move. I’d like to see them try being in the decision making seat for one day. It’s a lot harder than it looks from your keyboard! I keep that in mind while I'm criticizing. And there's a good bit to criticize here - as was pointed out somewhere else, this is another example of Trump understanding tactics but not strategy. Or, as I pointed out, another example of Trump understanding marketing but nothing else. The IRGC is a professional military force, intended to take losses and survive without degredation of capabilities. Killing Solemani is analogous to Iran assassinating General McKenzie (current CENTCOM commander) - nice propaganda win, but doesn't degrade US capabilities a damn, and results in Hell being rained down Iran's head. 1
John Adams Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I keep that in mind while I'm criticizing. And there's a good bit to criticize here - as was pointed out somewhere else, this is another example of Trump understanding tactics but not strategy. Or, as I pointed out, another example of Trump understanding marketing but nothing else. The IRGC is a professional military force, intended to take losses and survive without degredation of capabilities. Killing Solemani is analogous to Iran assassinating General McKenzie (current CENTCOM commander) - nice propaganda win, but doesn't degrade US capabilities a damn, and results in Hell being rained down Iran's head. This is an action that's hard to judge until we see the consequences. If all we see is sabre-rattling and Iran stands down a bit, great. If this escalates, problem. Trump just went for it on 4th and 1 on his own 35. Genius or goat gets judged by the result here. Heavy lays the crown in these situations and I'm not sure if this particular action was the best choice. I hope it was--it would be great if this puts Iran back in the box a bit. 1
BringBackOrton Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, John Adams said: Assassinating a leading, but replaceable, general is definitely a new chapter in US-Iran relations. One of the things I liked about Trump so far was how he resisted doing rash things with the military. What happens next is something we can only wait for. Iran is under a lot of pressure. I’d love to see any documented proof prior to today that you liked how Trump avoided rash military action. 1
John Adams Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: I’d love to see any documented proof prior to today that you liked how Trump avoided rash military action. I've said many times that I like that he's getting us out of war, his aggressive stance vs China on trade, and his conservative judicial appointments. You just believe the simple narratives here that everyone outside of the conspiracy boyz gang is a simple D or R lemming, and in so believing, are yourself a lemming. Edited January 3, 2020 by John Adams
keepthefaith Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 Mostly, I'm unhappy we went into Iraq and have stayed there. 4
John Adams Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, keepthefaith said: Mostly, I'm unhappy we went into Iraq and have stayed there. Indeed. Trump has been doing a good job of extracting us from a lot of these messes.
Tiberius Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I love how all of these arm chair internet critics like to second guess every move. I’d like to see them try being in the decision making seat for one day. It’s a lot harder than it looks from your keyboard! Comes with the territory
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: I’d love to see any documented proof prior to today that you liked how Trump avoided rash military action. he has consistently badmouthed everything Trump did or he imagined Trump did. 1
Foxx Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1212938592546435072 1 2
John Adams Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, row_33 said: he has consistently badmouthed everything Trump did or he imagined Trump did. Simple thinking is easy thinking isn't it row?
Foxx Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1213123410093596673 1
dubs Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 It’s sickening how the Dems react to these things. I can understand the desire to be measured when it comes to these issues, but to put out statement after statement basically saying we overreacted and to expect a war as a knee jerk reaction is a joke. 3
John Adams Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1213123410093596673 Big DE papers on board too. https://www.bild.de/politik/kolumnen/kolumne/usa-toeten-irans-terror-chef-bild-kommentar-trump-hat-die-welt-von-einem-monster-67073674.bild.html 1 minute ago, dubs said: It’s sickening how the Dems react to these things. I can understand the desire to be measured when it comes to these issues, but to put out statement after statement basically saying we overreacted and to expect a war as a knee jerk reaction is a joke. 100%. A measured response in a moment like this is much better.
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, dubs said: It’s sickening how the Dems react to these things. I can understand the desire to be measured when it comes to these issues, but to put out statement after statement basically saying we overreacted and to expect a war as a knee jerk reaction is a joke. they hate everything that happens or doesn't happen such a sad way to live 1
dubs Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: they hate everything that happens or doesn't happen such a sad way to live Politics above all. No exceptions. 1
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, dubs said: Politics above all. No exceptions. He should have asked Nancy first! ?
Warren Zevon Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, dubs said: It’s sickening how the Dems react to these things. I can understand the desire to be measured when it comes to these issues, but to put out statement after statement basically saying we overreacted and to expect a war as a knee jerk reaction is a joke. Do the Republicans who have put out statements basically saying we overreacted and to expect a war as a knee jerk reaction sicken you as well? Edited January 3, 2020 by Gary Busey
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