Tiberius Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, ALF said: Saudi promises 'material evidence' linking Iran to attack ( 10:30 AM EDT ? ) The Saudi defence ministry said it will hold a news conference at 14:30 GMT to present "material evidence and Iranian weapons proving the Iranian regime's involvement in the terrorist attack". Riyadh previously said preliminary results showed the attack did not come from Yemen. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/saudi-oil-attacks-latest-updates-190916102800973.html Pretty much everyone believes it was Iran, but the question is, what are the Saudis going to do about it? Iran does not seem intimidated by any of this: Quote DUBAI — Iran warned the United States that it would broadly retaliate against any attacks in the wake of crippling strikes on the Saudi oil industry over the weekend, Iranian news agencies reported Wednesday. The message, which was sent via the Swiss Embassy in Tehran that handles U.S. affairs in the country, condemned remarks by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and other officials linking Iran with the attacks on a Saudi oil field and processing facility. “Iran’s response will be prompt and strong, and it may include broader areas than the source of attacks,” the Mehr News Agency reported the official note as saying. Iran’s Fars News Agency said any response would be “rapid and crushing” and target “more extensive areas than the origin of the attack.” There have long been fears that Iranian proxy forces in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and elsewhere might attack U.S. forces in the region. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iran-warns-us-of-broad-retaliation-in-case-of-any-attack/2019/09/18/35a1275c-d99f-11e9-a1a5-162b8a9c9ca2_story.html
Tiberius Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 I have just instructed the Secretary of the Treasury to substantially increase Sanctions on the country of Iran! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 18, 2019
Tiberius Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hedge said: Was Captain Obvious giving the press conference?
DC Tom Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Hedge said: Still trying to figure out the difference between "drone" and "missile" in this context.
Tiberius Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Well, Bolton not wasting anytime blasting Trump. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/18/bolton-trump-foreign-policy-1501932
TPS Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 For an alternative analysis on the drone attack: https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/09/article/how-the-houthis-overturned-the-chessboard/ US intel insists that 17 drones and cruise missiles were launched in combination from southern Iran. In theory, Patriot radar would have picked that up and knocked the drones/missiles from the sky. So far, absolutely no record of this trajectory has been revealed. Military experts generally agree that the radar on the Patriot missile is good, but its success rate is “disputed” – to say the least. What’s important, once again, is that the Houthis do have advanced offensive missiles. And their pinpoint accuracy at Abqaiq was uncanny. So we’re back to the realistic bottom line, which has been stressed by not only Moscow and Beijing but also Paris and Berlin: US President Donald Trump gambled big time, and he lost. Now he must find a face-saving way out. If the War Party allows it.
ALF Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 I wonder if the Israeli Iron Dome Air Defense would have worked against that attack. Unless the Patriot radar was turned off .
Chef Jim Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 14 hours ago, Tiberius said: Well, Bolton not wasting anytime blasting Trump. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/18/bolton-trump-foreign-policy-1501932 So now Bolton’s cool? Man I can’t keep up. You guys got a playbook or something?? Oh wait never mind. I figured it out. You hate anyone associated with Trump or Bush etc until they go against #orangemanbad then they are super cool.
B-Man Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 IT WAS YUGE: “Howdy Modi” Event In Houston: Trump And Indian PM Modi Celebrate U.S.-India Alliance. This, too, is part of Trump’s diplomatic response to the Chinese. President Trump participated in a "Howdy Modi" rally at NRG Stadium in Houston, celebrating the achievements of the Indian-American population and the U.S. alliance with India with India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Trump celebrated U.S.-India trade relations, defense agreements, and friendship."Howdy, my friends," Modi said as he began his address. "When you say 'Howdy, Modi', my answer is that everything is fine in India. "Friends, as I told you, we have met [President Trump] a few times and every time he has been the same: warm, friendly, accessible, energetic and full of wit," Modi said. "India has a true friend in the White House.""Prime Minister Modi and I have come to Houston to celebrate everything that unites the United States and India, our shared dreams and bright futures. I've also come to express my profound gratitude to the nearly four million amazing Indian-Americans all across our country," Trump said. "You enrich our culture, you uplift our values, and you are truly proud to be American, and we are proud to have you as Americans. We thank you, we love you, and I want you to know my administration is fighting for you every day.""Today the spirit of Texas is reflecting here. This crowd is not just restricted to an arithmetic number. We are witnessing a new history in the making," Modi said."You (India) have never had a better friend as President as President Donald Trump," Trump said Sunday afternoon. "Under PM Modi’s leadership, the world is witnessing a strong, sovereign republic of India." Quote PlayTheTrumpCard @PlaysTrumpCard 70,000 brown-skinned people are standing, applauding and shouting "Trump Trump Trump" in Houston, Texas. The Indian Prime Minister himself is praising @realDonaldTrump & I think today should be the end of @TheDemocrats "Trump's a white supremacist" narrative, because it's idiotic If being idiotic were a barrier, the Democrats wouldn’t have any narratives.
ALF Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 CNN journalist Christiane Amanpour quoted Iran's Foreign Minister Javad Zarif as saying that President Hassan Rouhani was willing to meet US President Donald Trump in New York this week if sanctions were scrapped in exchange for "permanent monitoring" of Iran's nuclear activities. In another tweet, Amanpour quoted Zarif saying: "The olive branch has always been on the table, but we're showing it again." There has been no statement from Zarif himself about what Amanpour attributed to him https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/saudi-oil-attacks-latest-updates-190916102800973.html
Tiberius Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, ALF said: CNN journalist Christiane Amanpour quoted Iran's Foreign Minister Javad Zarif as saying that President Hassan Rouhani was willing to meet US President Donald Trump in New York this week if sanctions were scrapped in exchange for "permanent monitoring" of Iran's nuclear activities. In another tweet, Amanpour quoted Zarif saying: "The olive branch has always been on the table, but we're showing it again." There has been no statement from Zarif himself about what Amanpour attributed to him https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/saudi-oil-attacks-latest-updates-190916102800973.html Basically they want status quo pre-Trump. Back to the Obama plan that Trump is yelling at the Iranians to follow. In other news we are sending Troops into this Saudi war zone in defense of the kingdom and oil. Hmmm....
3rdnlng Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 No status fvcking quo for the Iranians. They finance terror on a large scale and lie about their own nuclear program. Sanction them until the present regime collapses and a new government is formed by the people. They are a pariah and deserve to be treated as one. 1
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