Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Whoa. That's big. I love, no I am THRILLED, with how this president is handling Israel and the Middle East in general. Common FREAKING sense.
GG Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Hmm, how often does POTUS meet with a President on the home turf, while simultaneously SOS meets with PM on the away field? 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 This is all very interesting after the Kuwait meeting yesterday. ? 1
DC Tom Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: That should have a rather negative impact on regional stability. It's a militarily critical zone for both sides - either Syria has a fortified position overlooking Haifa, or Israel has one overlooking Damascus. Either side owning it scares the ***** out of the other. Would probably be better for everyone if it were an unoccupied DMZ.
GG Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, DC Tom said: That should have a rather negative impact on regional stability. It's a militarily critical zone for both sides - either Syria has a fortified position overlooking Haifa, or Israel has one overlooking Damascus. Either side owning it scares the ***** out of the other. Would probably be better for everyone if it were an unoccupied DMZ. You have a 50-year long history of one side owning it and a 20-year history of the other side owning it. Which one has been used exclusively on offense?
/dev/null Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Amazing what happens when the military get the resources and authorization to complete their objectives 1
3rdnlng Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, GG said: You have a 50-year long history of one side owning it and a 20-year history of the other side owning it. Which one has been used exclusively on offense? This.
Koko78 Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: <br /> Wow, after looking at some of his other tweets: this guy is a certified whackadoodle. 1
Q-baby! Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Wow, after looking at some of his other tweets: this guy is a certified whackadoodle. ? Actually he reminded me of some of the nutbars here. And Donnie boy! Edited March 21, 2019 by BigMcD
DC Tom Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, GG said: You have a 50-year long history of one side owning it and a 20-year history of the other side owning it. Which one has been used exclusively on offense? Neither. Both sides have used it for offensive operations. The cease-fire in the Yom Kippur war was negotiated in a big damn hurry because the Israelis were about to take Damascus, attacking out of the Golan. The Beqaa Valley was invaded in 1982 in part from the Golan. And Israeli air strikes into Syria would be much more difficult without the Golan to operate behind. Not that I'm sympathetic to the Syrians - the Israelis have significant security concerns with respect to their overly aggressive neighbor that makes their occupation of the Golan a strategic requirement, much like their Sinai occupation was before the Egyptians came to their senses. And I don't support ending the Israeli occupation unless they get serious concessions from Syria. But this isn't occupation now, it's annexation, which creates a security concern of at least equal magnitude for Syria in its own right, that will outlast however long the Assad regime has left. That is destabilizing. 48 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: heh He's probably right...but let's see the UN Armed Forces try to enforce this.
GG Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Neither. Both sides have used it for offensive operations. The cease-fire in the Yom Kippur war was negotiated in a big damn hurry because the Israelis were about to take Damascus, attacking out of the Golan. The Beqaa Valley was invaded in 1982 in part from the Golan. And Israeli air strikes into Syria would be much more difficult without the Golan to operate behind. Not that I'm sympathetic to the Syrians - the Israelis have significant security concerns with respect to their overly aggressive neighbor that makes their occupation of the Golan a strategic requirement, much like their Sinai occupation was before the Egyptians came to their senses. And I don't support ending the Israeli occupation unless they get serious concessions from Syria. But this isn't occupation now, it's annexation, which creates a security concern of at least equal magnitude for Syria in its own right, that will outlast however long the Assad regime has left. That is destabilizing. He's probably right...but let's see the UN Armed Forces try to enforce this. As if the words change a 59 year reality. Israel was not handing over the Golan no matter what it is called. 1
DC Tom Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, GG said: As if the words change a 59 year reality. Israel was not handing over the Golan no matter what it is called. People used to say the same about the Sinai. And Gaza. And frankly, I'm still amazed they handed over that buffer zone. But it happens.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: People used to say the same about the Sinai. And Gaza. And frankly, I'm still amazed they handed over that buffer zone. But it happens. I'd be surprised if they handed over Golan at ANY price.
DC Tom Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: I'd be surprised if they handed over Golan at ANY price. It'd probably take a US-backed regime change and near-complete disarmament of Syria. It would certainly require Syrian recognition of Israel's right to exist, which isn't happening while the PA and Hezbollah exist and Iran is under its current leadership. 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: It'd probably take a US-backed regime change and near-complete disarmament of Syria. It would certainly require Syrian recognition of Israel's right to exist, which isn't happening while the PA and Hezbollah exist and Iran is under its current leadership. I'm with you on that.
Deranged Rhino Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) Edited March 22, 2019 by Deranged Rhino
DC Tom Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: CNN BREAKING NEWS: Trump praises ISIS, says they are "better than almost anyone." 1
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