Tiberius Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Are these the same generals and intelligence agencies who you probably roasted about WMD in Iraq, Gitmo, etc? Not exactly, no. Very different things to look for WMD in Middle East and cyber crimes. Also, the intelligence agencies were hardly as united as they are on this. Plus, it was the Bush administrtion that cherry picked, highlighted and outright lied about what the intelligence agencies were saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Not exactly, no. Very different things to look for WMD in Middle East and cyber crimes. Also, the intelligence agencies were hardly as united as they are on this. Plus, it was the Bush administrtion that cherry picked, highlighted and outright lied about what the intelligence agencies were saying logic cartwheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Their job is to serve the government of the United States and protect its national security, not dictate policy and undermine the legitimacy of the election. The election was attacked! That is a national security issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Not exactly, no. Very different things to look for WMD in Middle East and cyber crimes. Also, the intelligence agencies were hardly as united as they are on this. The NYT already retracted their BS statement that the USIC was unified in their assessment of the hacks. You're behind the "news". And, it's not just the same agencies that dropped the ball on WMD who have been pushing the collusion narrative, it's the same people. But carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 logic cartwheels Your post sure was. Question: if Trump is in debt to a Kremlin controlled "bank" would that be enough of a conflict of interest to warrant his removal? The NYT already retracted their BS statement that the USIC was unified in their assessment of the hacks. You're behind the "news". And, it's not just the same agencies that dropped the ball on WMD who have been pushing the collusion narrative, it's the same people. But carry on. Links ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 The election was attacked! That is a national security issue The election wasn't attacked in 2017 any more than it was in 2012, 2008, 2004 et al. And calling it "attacked" is hyperbole - and precisely my point. You're defending unnamed sources in the USIC who have yet to produce a shred of evidence of their claims, have backed down on nearly every claim made at the start (all 17 USIC agencies agree! ... I mean 3 of 17 agree!... there was collusion! ... no, wait, there was maybe collusion with random Americans and Russians...) and on an on we go. You've been had. Links ? Look through my posts, they're hundred of links making this case. But here's the NYT retraction: Correction: June 29, 2017 A White House Memo article on Monday about President Trump’s deflections and denials about Russia referred incorrectly to the source of an intelligence assessment that said Russia orchestrated hacking attacks during last year’s presidential election. The assessment was made by four intelligence agencies — the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency. The assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/25/us/politics/trumps-deflections-and-denials-on-russia-frustrate-even-his-allies.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 The election wasn't attacked in 2017 any more than it was in 2012, 2008, 2004 et al. And calling it "attacked" is hyperbole - and precisely my point. You're defending unnamed sources in the USIC who have yet to produce a shred of evidence of their claims, have backed down on nearly every claim made at the start (all 17 USIC agencies agree! ... I mean 3 of 17 agree!... there was collusion! ... no, wait, there was maybe collusion with random Americans and Russians...) and on an on we go. You've been had. Even Trup said it was hacked, and Putin just said it was patriots that did it, his patriots. And it was an attack, Putin got his man, and all those bank loans from the Kremlin are blackmail stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Even Trup said it was hacked, and Putin just said it was patriots that did it, his patriots. And it was an attack, Putin got his man, and all those bank loans from the Kremlin are blackmail stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Ya, that's about how I reacted to all those many times you said Hillary had fixed the election and had already won Har har Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) Their job is to serve the government of the United States and protect its national security, not dictate policy and undermine the legitimacy of the election. And Frumps job is to be presidential and not act like a jackass. WRT leaks http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/06/senate-report-avalanche-media-leaks-hurting-national-security.html A Republican-authored 24 page report, estimated the administration has dealt with roughly one leak per day, was sent to Attorney General Jeff Sessions. The authors urged law enforcement officials to step up their investigation of leaks exposing potentially sensitive information. “State Secrets: How an Avalanche of Media Leaks is Harming National Security,” cited an “unprecedented wave” of “potentially damaging” leaks. The report states that the leaks flowed about “seven times faster” under the Trump administration than during the first 126 days of both Obama’s and George W. Bush’s presidency. “It is also apparent that the arguments often used to justify leaks are at odds with the Trump administration—that leakers are bringing to light potential illegality, unwise policies, or concerns about the President’s temperament—have no legal basis,” the report found. The report said 78 of the leaks concerned the probe into Russian election meddling and potential collusion with the Trump campaign in the 2016 presidential election, revealing intelligence community intercepts, FBI interviews and intelligence, grand jury subpoenas, and “the workings of a secret surveillance court.” For me, I'd rather know we have a madman in DC now. Edited July 6, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 And Frumps job is to be presidential and not act like a jackass. Man, you must have hated the last guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Man, you must have hated the last guy. how'd you know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 No matter how hard you try, you simply can't force people to believe they're as stupid as you are. Is it any wonder you're left in control of Detroit and Macungie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 No matter how hard you try, you simply can't force people to believe they're as stupid as you are. Is it any wonder you're left in control of Detroit and Macungie. Whats so wrong with Ladies First? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Whats so wrong with Ladies First? Glad to see handshakes and ice cream are what the median deems the most important item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Two scoops two scoops That and bitching what the other news channels has to say. I want news not some reality show (meaning fake and scripted) Fox News Business (half) hour 15 minutes of complaints filled in with commercials every 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Two scoops two scoops That and bitching what the other news channels has to say. I want news not some reality show (meaning fake and scripted) Fox News Business (half) hour 15 minutes of complaints filled in with commercials every 5 minutes. It's like you've purchased a Vespa, and are now complaining that you can't tow a 40 foot Sea Ray with it. If you want news, stop consuming infotainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Trump on Putin meeting: “Very good talks” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 No, Trump lies all the time, so the talks must have been horrible!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 It's like you've purchased a Vespa, and are now complaining that you can't tow a 40 foot Sea Ray with it. If you want news, stop consuming infotainment. Work TV unfortunately. The only news I watch is the half hour local news then it's off to History Channel or some such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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