Tiberius Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 8:43 PM, DC Tom said: For now, but he'll have more flexibility after the election... Doubt it, Trump's legal problems will just be beginning after he loses his next election
3rdnlng Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Wacka said: Remember, the Poles were the first to tell the Russians to F off. It didn't always work so well in centuries past.
Wacka Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 Did in the 80s though.They were the first to break free along with the Hungarians.
3rdnlng Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Wacka said: Did in the 80s though.They were the first to break free along with the Hungarians. A good book is James Michener's "Poland".
GG Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, peace out said: If you can spare some time from your meme training class, can you please let me know exactly what policies Trump has implemented that are favorable for Russia? 1
3rdnlng Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, GG said: If you can spare some time from your meme training class, can you please let me know exactly what policies Trump has implemented that are favorable for Russia? Just Trump's push for lower oil prices (regardless of how effective) is devastating to Russia. If we play our energy cards right that leash position could be changed.
BringBackOrton Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/18/2018 at 2:42 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Imagine being a sovereign country in the Middle East and giving a ***** what Cambodia or Chile thinks you should do.
Tiberius Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 53 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: They really want a war with Russia. NATO is meeting today. Will Trump tell them to stand down, on orders from Putin?
Foxx Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: They really want a war with Russia. it would appear so. an election ploy by Poroshenko? i see where it was reported (not by the american MSM mind you) that these ships veered right into the line of fire of the Russian warning shots, apparently attempting to provoke a wider conflict. 1
DC Tom Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: it would appear so. an election ploy by Poroshenko? i see where it was reported (not by the american MSM mind you) that these ships veered right into the line of fire of the Russian warning shots, apparently attempting to provoke a wider conflict. The Russians would have to be firing for the Ukrainians to veer into their line of fire... 1
Tiberius Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley condemns Russia’s ‘outlaw’ actions against Ukrainian ships Speaking at an emergency meeting of the Security Council, Haley reaffirmed the U.S. sanctions punishing Russia over its annexation of Crimea four years ago.
Foxx Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 50 minutes ago, DC Tom said: The Russians would have to be firing for the Ukrainians to veer into their line of fire... i guess that is debatable. what i don't think it debatable is that the US has been trying to push the Ukraine into contesting the Russian territorial waters of the Sea of Azov. https://twitter.com/AvakovArsen/status/1066771126448259072
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: i guess that is debatable. what i don't think it debatable is that the US has been trying to push the Ukraine into contesting the Russian territorial waters of the Sea of Azov. https://twitter.com/AvakovArsen/status/1066771126448259072 You think it's debatable that the Russians would have to be firing for the Ukrainians to veer into the line of fire? Go back and think that through please.
Foxx Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: You think it's debatable that the Russians would have to be firing for the Ukrainians to veer into the line of fire? Go back and think that through please. no. what is debatable, i guess is that the Russians were firing..... perhaps i read Tom's post wrong?
3rdnlng Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 51 minutes ago, Foxx said: no. what is debatable, i guess is that the Russians were firing..... perhaps i read Tom's post wrong? Going back centuries it is customary to shoot off a cannon or whatever across the bow of a ship to get it to stop. Normally that shot is nowhere near the actual ship. So, yes it is possible to sail into the line of fire.
DC Tom Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Foxx said: i guess that is debatable. No, it's not. That's not "line of fire," that's sailing course. And that isn't nearly as simple - there's recognized international rules for right of way at sea. From that video, I couldn't tell who violated them.
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