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  On 4/22/2020 at 2:05 PM, ALF said:

I would agree ,  not sure how to deal with Russian jets that harass US aircraft. 

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This isn't that big of a deal.

It's been going on for years. It's just a way to let them know you know about them.

I've done scores of these intercepts of Soviet bombers and one potentially hostile Iranian one.

The complaint is how the Russians are doing it. 

There is a protocol to approach from the rear, on the side, from 4 or 5 o'clock, or 7 or 8 o'clock, and make your presence known in a non threatening way.

The Russians are intercepting intel gathering airplanes and doing things like flying inverted near them, or "thumping" them.

Thumping is flying under them with a good deal of overtake speed, then pulling up through their projected flight path, resulting in them flying through your wake turbulence and jet wash.

It's a really stupid thing to do.

 

If they breach the protocols, they invite a weapon response.

As an example, when the two Libyan Migs were shot down by US Navy F-14'a from Kennedy.

If you listen to the audio, the US pilots repeatedly mention the Migs turning into them in a head on intercept. That is to display the clear hostile action, and justify the response.

 

Splashed Migs

 

Audio starts at 2 minute mark.

 

This Iranian revolutionary Guard thing has been going on for years as well, but they are playing with their lives if they keep it up, as these are clearly aggressive and possibly threatening tactics.

 

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Maybe this bridges the tactical and strategic(with liberal borrowing from past Homeland plots.)   Let's go back to the drone downing and attacks on the Saudi refineries, and the speculation

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Cool, end all foreign aid to them as well.

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  On 4/22/2020 at 9:42 PM, Buffalo_Gal said:

I don't know where to put this..
 

WHO chief asks President Trump to resume funding
 

The director general of the World Health Organization (WHO) is pleading with President Trump to renew funding for the organization. On Wednesday, the WHO chief claimed he is doing an important job of keeping the U.S. and its partners safe from global threats to public health.
 

“I hope the freezing of the funding will be reconsidered,” he added.
 

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Guess he shouldn't have prioritized CCP propaganda to 'save face' over "global threats to public health."

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  On 4/23/2020 at 11:43 AM, sherpa said:

 

This isn't that big of a deal.

It's been going on for years. It's just a way to let them know you know about them.

I've done scores of these intercepts of Soviet bombers and one potentially hostile Iranian one.

The complaint is how the Russians are doing it. 

There is a protocol to approach from the rear, on the side, from 4 or 5 o'clock, or 7 or 8 o'clock, and make your presence known in a non threatening way.

The Russians are intercepting intel gathering airplanes and doing things like flying inverted near them, or "thumping" them.

Thumping is flying under them with a good deal of overtake speed, then pulling up through their projected flight path, resulting in them flying through your wake turbulence and jet wash.

It's a really stupid thing to do.

 

If they breach the protocols, they invite a weapon response.

As an example, when the two Libyan Migs were shot down by US Navy F-14'a from Kennedy.

If you listen to the audio, the US pilots repeatedly mention the Migs turning into them in a head on intercept. That is to display the clear hostile action, and justify the response.

 

Splashed Migs

 

Audio starts at 2 minute mark.

 

This Iranian revolutionary Guard thing has been going on for years as well, but they are playing with their lives if they keep it up, as these are clearly aggressive and possibly threatening tactics.

 

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@sherpa thank you airdale for the TopGun tips for our spy planes near Russian/Soviet assets..... I am one sailor Veteran For Peace here against a dozen gung ho idiots....your honesty and deportment makes you a true patriot.... as for Libya & Persia..... we must jail BILLARY and Obushaobombney for the murder of 50 thousand Libyan women and children with 117 USA submarine launched cruise missiles 2011 and arming Shia invaders to kill popular Suni & Colonel Gaddafi....the left over weapons murdered our gay Ambassador and 4 brave Navy Seals.....installing 2 shahs in Persia has come back to haunt Tony Blair and the BushWALKERwacker crime families 

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  On 4/23/2020 at 3:41 PM, 1915 Buffalo Bill Cody fan said:

@sherpa thank you airdale for the TopGun tips for our spy planes near Russian/Soviet assets..... I am one sailor Veteran For Peace here against a dozen gung ho idiots....

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You have used a single word in your post that leads me to conclude your claim of ex Navy is valid.

The rest of your post........

 

The point is that if the Iranian Revolutionary Guard continues to behave in a hostile manner that effects navigation in international waters, a Skipper of a US combatant may well decide that such activity is a threat.

He is responsible for his ship and crew, and as an ex sailor, presumably, you would want him to act appropriately. 

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  On 4/23/2020 at 9:59 AM, 1915 Buffalo Bill Cody fan said:

Nobody is NAIIVE to ask @bbb why USA fighter jets from NATO Alaska or Thule are pissing off the Russians ..... Iranians are willing to die for their alleged gawd Allah in their territorial waters like David speedboats with sling shots teasing Goliath with destroyers and aircraft carriers 100 feet above their decks martyrs for Mohammed nephew believers.....so TrumpOLINI orders shoot to kill ..... remember PT 109 did not receive a single bullet or Japanese warning shot their Captain just sliced the wood boat in half neatly with their bow stem and left the scene for survivors to swim through burning fuel and debris miles away to island safety

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I have no idea what you're rambling about in the rest of this post, but please enlighten me yourself as to why US jets are pissing off the Russians

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  On 4/23/2020 at 4:16 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

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“We (warn) the Americans that we are fully determined and serious in defending our national security, maritime borders, maritime interests, maritime security and security of our forces at sea and any (wrong) move (by enemies) will meet our decisive, effective and prompt response,” Maj. Gen. Hossein Salami said.

 

America should take heed from prior experience with Iran, Salami also reportedly said. 

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So... they're going to shoot down another civilian airliner after it takes off from the Tehran airport?

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  On 4/27/2020 at 8:49 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

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Did the force of the last plane leaving cause it to sail away now that it does have the weight of all those bombers holding it in place?  :wacko:

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  On 4/27/2020 at 10:56 PM, 3rdnlng said:

Silly boy, it capsized. 

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That's what the air force engineers expertly avoided by not keeping all the planes on 1 side of the island.  They performed a truly remarkable balancing act.  But now that all that weight is gone, there'll be nothing to hold it in place anymore.  Especially if the wind picks up it could get blown half way to Orehon before we know it; and then it won't be good as a bomber base anymore since the planes will all be too far from places in Asia, like Hawaii for instance.

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  On 4/29/2020 at 12:37 AM, GG said:

 

In China's pocket, though

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C'mon man, he was a minority investor in a deal that owed hundreds of millions in debt to the Bank of China for 2 days, 4 years before he ran for President! How much more evidence of corruption does anyone need?

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