Hedge Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Color me a skeptic. This sounds just as ridiculous as putting known human rights violators on the UN Human Rights Council. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, Hedge said: Color me a skeptic. This sounds just as ridiculous as putting known human rights violators on the UN Human Rights Council. tell me then... how are they going to fill any of those seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: It was never a matter of whether China was going to back down, it's always been a matter of how they would cave without looking weak. Of course, whether they'll actually impose these punishments is another matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snafu Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Nanker said: Gasoline costs about $6.50 per gallon in France. They buy it by the liter at around 1.50 Euros per - prices are coming down some recently. The Euro is around $1.14 and there are 3.785 liters per gallon. Yes, and the hike in prices that set off the protests amount to about $0.25/gallon of diesel. Those protests ain't about $0.25/gallon of diesel gas. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46437904 The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol from 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw for the protesters. 23 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I'm waiting for someone to tie Trump's pullout of the Paris Accord to the Paris protests. Because of Trump, Europe has to actually pay for it's own green energy initiatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, snafu said: Yes, and the hike in prices that set off the protests amount to about $0.25/gallon of diesel. Those protests ain't about $0.25/gallon of diesel gas. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46437904 The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol from 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw for the protesters. just wait until more farms fold. everyone is out there bitching about different modes of transportation - electric cars, solar cars, etc. how tf do you get rid of oil in agriculture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 15 hours ago, Boyst62 said: just wait until more farms fold. everyone is out there bitching about different modes of transportation - electric cars, solar cars, etc. how tf do you get rid of oil in agriculture? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 15 hours ago, Boyst62 said: just wait until more farms fold. everyone is out there bitching about different modes of transportation - electric cars, solar cars, etc. how tf do you get rid of oil in agriculture? People existed for thousands of years without oil in agriculture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: People existed for thousands of years without oil in agriculture. True statement Three more true statements for you to ponder Human processing of petroleum based products began in the late 19th century Human population in the late 19th century was about 2 Billion Human population today is about 8 Billion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 54 minutes ago, Nanker said: I already yews GPS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, /dev/null said: True statement Three more true statements for you to ponder Human processing of petroleum based products began in the late 19th century Human population in the late 19th century was about 2 Billion Human population today is about 8 Billion Is that necessarily a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Is that necessarily a good thing? No, but unless you are proposing offing billions of people the farmers need to utilize petroleum to feed the people we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: People existed for thousands of years without oil in agriculture. Have you stopped to consider that it may not be desirable to return to an agrarian economy in which everyone is required to be a subsistence farmer? If it's all the same to you, I think I'd like to continue to drive my SUV to work and have a life expectancy of more than 40. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, TakeYouToTasker said: Have you stopped to consider that it may not be desirable to return to an agrarian economy in which everyone is required to be a subsistence farmer? If it's all the same to you, I think I'd like to continue to drive my SUV to work and have a life expectancy of more than 40. The point is, he made it sound as though it's impossible. It isn't. I understand the benefit of petroleum being used in agriculture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: The point is, he made it sound as though it's impossible. It isn't. I understand the benefit of petroleum being used in agriculture. It's also not impossible to do away with modern medicine, or enact totalitarian theocracy, or any other trait of third world countries. It doesn't make them good ideas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: It's also not impossible to do away with modern medicine, or enact totalitarian theocracy, or any other trait of third world countries. It doesn't make them good ideas. Or IPv6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Boyst62 said: I already yews GPS The only "crop circles" shaped like ***** in the US. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 The headline is a bit misleading as they are just talking about a no-confidence vote right now, buuuuttttt.... END OF MACRON: French MPs launch NO CONFIDENCE vote amid nationwide anger and riots EMMANUEL Macron’s leadership is hanging by a thread as left-wing groups within the French parliament discuss launching a no confidence vote against the president </snip > First Secretary of the Socialist Party Olivier Faure wrote on Twitter: “We’ve decided to work together to file a no confidence vote [to the government] next Monday. During the coming days, we will seek to increase the number of signatories. We have to show that other ways are possible.” </snip > 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: The headline is a bit misleading as they are just talking about a no-confidence vote right now, buuuuttttt.... END OF MACRON: French MPs launch NO CONFIDENCE vote amid nationwide anger and riots EMMANUEL Macron’s leadership is hanging by a thread as left-wing groups within the French parliament discuss launching a no confidence vote against the president </snip > First Secretary of the Socialist Party Olivier Faure wrote on Twitter: “We’ve decided to work together to file a no confidence vote [to the government] next Monday. During the coming days, we will seek to increase the number of signatories. We have to show that other ways are possible.” </snip > And now the French Army is mobilizing for the protests: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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