DC Tom Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: They really want a war with Russia. A tug boat and two glorified swift boats? You'd think, if they wanted to start a war, they would have sent something slightly more substantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Why Ukraine-Russia sea clash is fraught with risk Under the terms of a 2003 agreement, the Azov sea, and its access point through the Kerch Strait is supposed to be shared by Ukraine and Russia. It worked, up to a point. Then in 2014 Russia seized Crimea and the dynamic changed. The Kerch Strait was no longer flanked by the Russian authorities to the east, and the Ukrainians in the west. The straits were now fully under Moscow's control, and the Russians had big plans. Cargo ships that wanted to reach Ukraine's Azov ports now found themselves subject to more inspections and lengthy delays that sometimes stretched to a week. Ukraine began complaining that it was facing an economic blockade, and that Russia was in breach of the 2003 "sharing" agreement. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46345853 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 13 hours ago, DC Tom said: No, it's not. That's not "line of fire," that's sailing course. And that isn't nearly as simple - there's recognized international rules for right of way at sea. From that video, I couldn't tell who violated them. “The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine received special access to the video of a provocation - a ship of the Russian border ship "Don" of the Ukrainian ship. Intercepted video is taken off Russian, audible teams - this will prove to the international court! Aggression! We are bundled and we expect the reactions of friendly countries!” From GooGoo Translate. The vessel being overtaken is responsible for maintaining course and speed or it becomes the burdened vessel. The overtaking vessel is burdened to avoid collision. It appears there are two Rooskie boats, one of which is crossing over the line of ships -forcing the smaller vessel to veer off course - and drift into the path of the Ivan that was following it. High Seas bumper cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Thread from Greenwald but it bears repeating: the MSM and left are so anti-Russian now, they're willingly getting into bed with actual Nazis in the Ukrainian government. Nazis the Obama administration and Clinton/Kerry State Departments helped install. Nazis are preferred by the (socialist) left to nationalists. It's not an accident. It's tradition. More to the thread if you click. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 The Italian Parliment need to debate whether or not it should be signed...Italy’s Interior Minister said on Wednesday that his country will not sign the United Nations Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration in Morocco next month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Ukraine-Russia sea clash: Poroshenko urges Nato to send ships Nato has expressed "full support" for Ukraine, which is not a member state. In the interview with Bild, Mr Poroshenko said Vladimir Putin wanted "nothing less than to occupy the [Azov] sea". "Germany is one of our closest allies and we hope that states within Nato are now ready to relocate naval ships to the Sea of Azov in order to assist Ukraine and provide security," he said. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46381166 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 3 hours ago, ALF said: Ukraine-Russia sea clash: Poroshenko urges Nato to send ships Nato has expressed "full support" for Ukraine, which is not a member state. In the interview with Bild, Mr Poroshenko said Vladimir Putin wanted "nothing less than to occupy the [Azov] sea". "Germany is one of our closest allies and we hope that states within Nato are now ready to relocate naval ships to the Sea of Azov in order to assist Ukraine and provide security," he said. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46381166 Let's send some LCS's. It's the perfect mission for them: littoral "show the flag" mission, and the Russians would be doing us a favor sinking them if it goes hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keepthefaith Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Meanwhile the cnn.com headline is Mueller/Cohen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) ...And, just to make some heads explode: Edited November 30, 2018 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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plenzmd1 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 4 hours ago, keepthefaith said: Meanwhile the cnn.com headline is Mueller/Cohen. I mean is there really groundbreaking stuff in here? Mueller/Cohen is the juicier headline and story no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: I mean is there really groundbreaking stuff in here? Mueller/Cohen is the juicier headline and story no? Yes, stop the presses, Cohen pleads guilty to having a date wrong on something that doesn'tmeanshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 About 5 PM today, I'm flipping channels. Fox's story was on the Alaska quake, but CNN and MSNBC had something about Muellers "probe" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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