DrDawkinstein Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Why would he want to waste his time? LA uses 1st pick on Goff, who do you think they are going to play! http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17157259/los-angeles-rams-grant-nick-foles-request-release Well, they started Keenum through 9 games this season and Goff still doesnt look ready, so it sounds like he chickened out of a competition he should have been able to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Webb > Mahomes yet both might not be NFL ready in 2017. That is why you get Foles, he is ready. Then you hope Jones or whoever comes out enough to be backup. I don't think Jones is that far off with a full of season ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 here's another exercise: if the playoffs started today, 10/12 of the teams have QBs that played their first snap with the team they're currently on. (miami being the odd season-ending injury exception). Even so, in the AFC, Miami could be supplanted by four other teams in the hunt who all have drafted QBs starting. Same on the other side, GB could be caught by two teams with drafted QBs starting, and another season-ending injury exception. my point is we need to draft, not pay money to a re-tread. give tyrod an incentive packed, team-friendly contract, draft a QB and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Play Tyrod for the first half then bring in a closer that can actually pass when we need him if we get behind. If we are winning there isn't much better than someone like Tyrod who helps the run game and who doesn't turn the ball over. It's only when we are losing where he's a problem because he just can't pass the ball down the field. He's proven to be incapable of leading a 2 min drive with his arm and in games where it's a shootout we are going to lose every time because we can't score as fast as teams that air it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 So, a guy that 3 other teams have already determined is not good enough to be a starter? Sounds like a brilliant idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Not a chance. Bills go 9-7 and sneak into the playoffs and Tyrod and Rex stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronyAbounds Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 As an Arizona alum I like Nick Foles, but mobile he is not. Not sure he is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Well, they started Keenum through 9 games this season and Goff still doesnt look ready, so it sounds like he chickened out of a competition he should have been able to win. He got traded to LA and then thrown in a QB competition. Now their coach got fired. You must be a LA fan. That team is worse off then the Bills. Bills at least have skilled position players outside of a franchise QB (pocket passer). here's another exercise: if the playoffs started today, 10/12 of the teams have QBs that played their first snap with the team they're currently on. (miami being the odd season-ending injury exception). Even so, in the AFC, Miami could be supplanted by four other teams in the hunt who all have drafted QBs starting. Same on the other side, GB could be caught by two teams with drafted QBs starting, and another season-ending injury exception. my point is we need to draft, not pay money to a re-tread. give tyrod an incentive packed, team-friendly contract, draft a QB and go from there. No upside to Tyrod, he won't be able to throw to come back. He doesn't play well to top competition. You want to stay 8-8 forever? Play Tyrod for the first half then bring in a closer that can actually pass when we need him if we get behind. If we are winning there isn't much better than someone like Tyrod who helps the run game and who doesn't turn the ball over. It's only when we are losing where he's a problem because he just can't pass the ball down the field. He's proven to be incapable of leading a 2 min drive with his arm and in games where it's a shootout we are going to lose every time because we can't score as fast as teams that air it out Foles can do both, doesn't throw interceptions. Not a runner but is mobile. So, a guy that 3 other teams have already determined is not good enough to be a starter? Sounds like a brilliant idea. So McCoy got traded to Buffalo from the same coach that traded Foles away? What is your point. He left LA, didn't want to play there and Kansas has a really good QB in Alex Smith. Actually a really bad point being made here!!!!!! Not a chance. Bills go 9-7 and sneak into the playoffs and Tyrod and Rex stay. Medical marijuana? I guess there is a chance you or I win the lottery too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel platooning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 As an Arizona alum I like Nick Foles, but mobile he is not. Not sure he is the answer. This is in Philly, He had McCoy and averaged 4yrds a carry himself. He is not a runner, but he is mobile. RUSHING Year Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM 2016 Kansas City Chiefs 2 4 2.0 -4 -1.0 -2.0 0 -1 0 0.0 0 0 0 2015 St. Louis Rams 11 17 1.5 20 1.2 1.8 1 10 4 23.5 0 0 2 2014 Philadelphia Eagles 8 16 2.0 68 4.3 8.5 0 14 6 37.5 0 0 1 2013 Philadelphia Eagles 13 57 4.4 221 3.9 17.0 3 21 15 26.3 2 0 2 2012 Philadelphia Eagles 7 11 1.6 42 3.8 6.0 1 14 5 45.5 0 0 3 Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel platooning. OUCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 http://www.nfl.com/player/nickfoles/2532842/careerstats I think he would be perfect, has mobility, young, big, throws long and isn't really damaged (wants to be a starter), has played in cold weather and knows McCoy! Weird career thus far. Had that really good year in 2013 but hasn't been that electric before or since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 So McCoy got traded to Buffalo from the same coach that traded Foles away? What is your point. He left LA, didn't want to play there and Kansas has a really good QB in Alex Smith. Actually a really bad point being made here!!!!!! HB is a completely different thing than a QB and it was the first team Shady was on, not the third. Please name me a single NFL QB that found success with their 4th team after they were not able to hold on to or earn a starting spot with their 3 previous teams. Please, just one. I beg you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Weird career thus far. Had that really good year in 2013 but hasn't been that electric before or since. Philly traded away Foles and McCoy, never really gave them a chance! Hopefully Buffalo gets smart and reunites them! HB is a completely different thing than a QB and it was the first team Shady was on, not the third. Please name me a single NFL QB that found success with their 4th team after they were not able to hold on to or earn a starting spot with their 3 previous teams. Please, just one. I beg you. He was the starting QB in Philliy? He got traded for Bradford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 So, a guy that 3 other teams have already determined is not good enough to be a starter? Sounds like a brilliant idea. Sounds like a better idea than plucking a 6th round 4th year back up. HB is a completely different thing than a QB and it was the first team Shady was on, not the third. Please name me a single NFL QB that found success with their 4th team after they were not able to hold on to or earn a starting spot with their 3 previous teams. Please, just one. I beg you. Rich Gannon comes to mind. There is probably more, not going to look them up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Sounds like a better idea than plucking a 6th round 4th year back up. Rich Gannon comes to mind. There is probably more, not going to look them up though. Brad and Rob Johnson won a Superbowl in Tampa bay. How about Dilfer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Brad and Rob Johnson won a Superbowl in Tampa bay. How about Dilfer! Yeah, just found Matt Hasselbeck, Brett Favre and Neil ODonnell also. There is more but I got stuff to do. Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer were only on 3 teams but fared pretty damn good. Edited December 21, 2016 by old school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) RUSHINGYear Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM 2016 Kansas City Chiefs 2 4 2.0 -4 -1.0 -2.0 0 -1 0 0.0 0 0 0 2015 St. Louis Rams 11 17 1.5 20 1.2 1.8 1 10 4 23.5 0 0 2 2014 Philadelphia Eagles 8 16 2.0 68 4.3 8.5 0 14 6 37.5 0 0 1 2013 Philadelphia Eagles 13 57 4.4 221 3.9 17.0 3 21 15 26.3 2 0 2 2012 Philadelphia Eagles 7 11 1.6 42 3.8 6.0 1 14 5 45.5 0 0 3 OUCH! yes but: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ei antiopam iracundia prodesset est, vix utinam aliquid te, sea vidit iudico iracundia at. Adhuc iusto mei et. Sea quis laudem discere et. Malis aeterno eligendi his eu, id dicat dolore disputationi qui. No affert oblique vel, vocibus nominati constituam vix et, voluptua antiopam qui in. Eam liber ceteros consetetur ad, wisi ludus elaboraret nec id. Cu lorem eripuit partiendo nam. Duo recteque constituto in, eam dicat voluptatum appellantur eu. Tation eruditi pri ea. Affert eirmod accumsan sit cu, cu sed graece populo audiam. Vix ea ipsum harum, an vix dolorem posidonium. Meliore vituperata id nec, an vim liber erant vocent. In duo alterum nominavi consequat, ne quando partem dolores sed. Eos veri dicunt melius id, ne vim vocent fastidii vituperata. Sit harum constituto ad, an tota delectus referrentur vis. Cum adhuc deserunt no, at ius moderatius persequeris. Atomorum expetenda mel cu. Justo velit disputando sit ea, vim possim minimum ei, his et adipiscing delicatissimi. Nec no laoreet docendi, qui te alii ludus salutandi, an per salutatus inciderint. Vidit laoreet sit an, mel cu dolorem platonem. In nam putent viderer sententiae. In qui omittam efficiendi. No error utroque adversarium eam, pertinax ocurreret sadipscing ea eum, epicuri gubergren eos ex. Vix possim utamur adversarium ut, eu mnesarchum definitiones his, detracto tincidunt sed in. Ei novum efficiantur eos. Harum adolescens in vel. Id vix mediocrem deseruisse. Ea eleifend imperdiet eam. Ne vocibus suscipit eum, qui justo regione at. Fuisset philosophia an ius. Modus ornatus qualisque vix an, tantas molestie ut his, sed te assum ceteros. Ei sit regione constituam reprehendunt. Ei dico impetus adversarium mel, utamur vituperata adversarium eu vix, te sea enim soluta meliore. Malis discere ornatus vis ne, his adipisci tractatos constituto ut, mundi dolorum mediocrem vis an. Sed sint congue no. Ei quodsi numquam splendide quo, amet argumentum duo ad. An sed iriure mentitum oportere, meis solum singulis eos ad, percipit reprehendunt vel in. Cum affert nonumy id. Ad atqui erant vocibus mea. Sit bonorum quaerendum at, ex mundi primis constituto vix, mel et odio posse latine. Te has dolorum fastidii elaboraret, at equidem adolescens mea. Duo ne patrioque constituam, petentium eloquentiam cum an. Ignota nostrum nam eu. Lorem nonumy deserunt his at, volutpat principes nam ex. Ei sea dicta denique omittantur, splendide repudiandae cu duo. Et decore mucius partiendo eos. Cu mundi delectus persecuti per. Vis illum affert ex, albucius signiferumque mea ad. Eos et iriure postulant, molestie vivendum mei ea, maluisset constituam definitiones qui te. An eros offendit sea, ei ius oblique maiorum eleifend. Ut facete dictas rationibus mei, an qui summo errem. Ea sed nostrud patrioque consectetuer, eam ea nemore apeirian. In iisque detraxit mei, ex qui mundi audiam complectitur. Veniam commune senserit his eu, ius eius erat habeo an. Et interesset consequuntur sea, mea alterum detracto et, purto brute fugit et mea. Edited December 21, 2016 by quinnearlysghost88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Sounds like a better idea than plucking a 6th round 4th year back up. Rich Gannon comes to mind. There is probably more, not going to look them up though. Brad and Rob Johnson won a Superbowl in Tampa bay. How about Dilfer! Yeah, just found Matt Hasselbeck, Brett Favre and Neil ODonnell also. There is more but I got stuff to do. Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer were only on 3 teams but fared pretty damn good. I will buy off on Rich Gannon. Good call. Tremendous season with Oakland after being on 3 squads. However, Hasselbeck had his success on his second team and didn't do anything after that, Favre was retired before going to Min and having one great year, O'Donnell had zero success after leaving PIttsburgh his first team, Brad Johnson had no success after he left TB, his third team. Edited December 21, 2016 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 yes but: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ei antiopam iracundia prodesset est, vix utinam aliquid te, sea vidit iudico iracundia at. Adhuc iusto mei et. Sea quis laudem discere et. Malis aeterno eligendi his eu, id dicat dolore disputationi qui. No affert oblique vel, vocibus nominati constituam vix et, voluptua antiopam qui in. Eam liber ceteros consetetur ad, wisi ludus elaboraret nec id. Cu lorem eripuit partiendo nam. Duo recteque constituto in, eam dicat voluptatum appellantur eu. Tation eruditi pri ea. Affert eirmod accumsan sit cu, cu sed graece populo audiam. Vix ea ipsum harum, an vix dolorem posidonium. Meliore vituperata id nec, an vim liber erant vocent. In duo alterum nominavi consequat, ne quando partem dolores sed. Eos veri dicunt melius id, ne vim vocent fastidii vituperata. Sit harum constituto ad, an tota delectus referrentur vis. Cum adhuc deserunt no, at ius moderatius persequeris. Atomorum expetenda mel cu. Justo velit disputando sit ea, vim possim minimum ei, his et adipiscing delicatissimi. Nec no laoreet docendi, qui te alii ludus salutandi, an per salutatus inciderint. Vidit laoreet sit an, mel cu dolorem platonem. In nam putent viderer sententiae. In qui omittam efficiendi. No error utroque adversarium eam, pertinax ocurreret sadipscing ea eum, epicuri gubergren eos ex. Vix possim utamur adversarium ut, eu mnesarchum definitiones his, detracto tincidunt sed in. Ei novum efficiantur eos. Harum adolescens in vel. Id vix mediocrem deseruisse. Ea eleifend imperdiet eam. Ne vocibus suscipit eum, qui justo regione at. Fuisset philosophia an ius. Modus ornatus qualisque vix an, tantas molestie ut his, sed te assum ceteros. Ei sit regione constituam reprehendunt. Ei dico impetus adversarium mel, utamur vituperata adversarium eu vix, te sea enim soluta meliore. Malis discere ornatus vis ne, his adipisci tractatos constituto ut, mundi dolorum mediocrem vis an. Sed sint congue no. Ei quodsi numquam splendide quo, amet argumentum duo ad. An sed iriure mentitum oportere, meis solum singulis eos ad, percipit reprehendunt vel in. Cum affert nonumy id. Ad atqui erant vocibus mea. Sit bonorum quaerendum at, ex mundi primis constituto vix, mel et odio posse latine. Te has dolorum fastidii elaboraret, at equidem adolescens mea. Duo ne patrioque constituam, petentium eloquentiam cum an. Ignota nostrum nam eu. Lorem nonumy deserunt his at, volutpat principes nam ex. Ei sea dicta denique omittantur, splendide repudiandae cu duo. Et decore mucius partiendo eos. Cu mundi delectus persecuti per. Vis illum affert ex, albucius signiferumque mea ad. Eos et iriure postulant, molestie vivendum mei ea, maluisset constituam definitiones qui te. An eros offendit sea, ei ius oblique maiorum eleifend. Ut facete dictas rationibus mei, an qui summo errem. Ea sed nostrud patrioque consectetuer, eam ea nemore apeirian. In iisque detraxit mei, ex qui mundi audiam complectitur. Veniam commune senserit his eu, ius eius erat habeo an. Et interesset consequuntur sea, mea alterum detracto et, purto brute fugit et mea. Did you just read Equus or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Did you just read Equus or something? Been watching too much Mad Men. Also, Kizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts