Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 A lot of jealousy in this thread. Lol. They are a solid team. IMO they get the last WC spot. Right? Blind homer stepford fans are blind
aristocrat Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 they're beating teams you should beat and have lost to the real good ones. good win against the steelers. plus 3 division wins in there. you can be in the playoff race like that.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 they're beating teams you should beat and have lost to the real good ones. good win against the steelers. plus 3 division wins in there. you can be in the playoff race like that. Doing what they have to against bad teams of late, but they aren't anything special: http://www.miamidolphins.com/team/season-schedule.html
26CornerBlitz Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 No one said they were special. Gase is doing a very good job his first year there as they look to be well coached. We'll see if they can sustain it. I heard how bright the future was for the Jets and Bowles last season from people like you.
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 Miami doesn't look like a playoff team to me, but they are in better shape than the Bills. Kind of says it all
GunnerBill Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 I really did not like their roster pre-season. They have been well coached and for the most part avoided glaring errors that sink teams. Of course the proof of the pudding with Gase will be on how they go in future years. I still don't see them quite making the playoffs this year. 9-7 and on the outside looking in I suspect but that is better than I expected and that is largely I believe a result of coaching. The QB play has been okay but not stellar the defense likewise... they have just been well prepared played to gameplans and haven't beaten themselves. As others have said - that is the Chiefs model and can succeed.
YoloinOhio Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) I think their true colors showed against the Ravens, which are actually a playoff team, just as the Bills true colors showed against Raiders and Steelers. But, I think they do beat the Bills next week because they have a better offense, and could squeak into playoffs if things fall the right way. I think they will then get rolled but hey, baby steps that we didn't take. Edited December 18, 2016 by YoloinOhio
Fixxxer Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 The dolphins are no push overs, Gase has instilled a strong mentality to that roster.
#34fan Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) Tannehill >>> TT Never thought i'd see the day when Tranny-hill was better than our starting QB... Oh, well.... Matt Moore is too, FWIW Edited December 18, 2016 by #34fan
Protocal69 Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 i respect Gase cause he had the Nuts to do what Rex Ryan didnt have the Nuts to do which was to bench Mario Williams and Gase team responded
YoloinOhio Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) i respect Gase cause he had the Nuts to do what Rex Ryan didnt have the Nuts to do which was to bench Mario Williams and Gase team respondedmario didn't though. He's done. I think another impactful move Gase made was leaving Ajaye at home the first game of the season because he had a temper tantrum when told he wasn't starting. Gotta show em who's boss. Edited December 18, 2016 by YoloinOhio
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 mario didn't though. He's done. I think another impactful move Gase made was leaving Ajaye at home the first game of the season because he had a temper tantrum when told he wasn't starting. Gotta show em who's boss. Great example. Sent a message. Rex wants to be friends with all of his players and let's them do whatever they want with zero accountability (see Jerry Hughes stupid personal foul penalties).
The Frankish Reich Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 Some key reasons Miami is ahead of us: 1. Jarvis Landry has outperformed Sammy. Same number of years in the league. Landry has not missed a game. And that's with returning punts too, something we can't risk having Sammy do. Sammy (assuming he plays today) will have missed 11 games. Landry was the 63rd overall pick. Watkins was the 4th. And Watkins cost us a first rounder the following year too. I know Sammy fans will say that when healthy he is the more dominant player. Maybe so. But right now that doesn't matter, does it ... 2. Suh has been up and down in his Miami time (but note that even in a lackluster 2015 he rated as PFF's 6th best interior DL), but for the most part we're seeing a hell of a lot more effort from him than we're seeing from Dareus. How many games has Suh missed since he joined the Dolphins? You guessed it: 0. How many games has Rear Admiral Puffalot missed (again, assuming he plays today)? 9. 3. Tannehill is nothing special. A year ago this time, I probably would have said it's a toss-up between Tanny and Tyrod, slight edge to the latter. Maybe it's the system/coach (Gase knows what he's doing on offense), but whatever the reason, Tanny continued to get better and Tyrod regressed. 4. Which, of course, brings us to coaching. Say what you will about Gase, he was a choice (young/inventive) for the future, not the past. Rex and Rob? That says nostalgia, not creativity. 5. You know how everybody always says RBs are easy to find, so don't spend a high pick or big money on one? LeSean McCoy has been everything the Bills hoped they were getting when they traded Kiko for him. But ... Jay Ajay, 149th overall pick, has over 1,000 yards. McCoy will match him today. McCoy would have to be a whole lot better than Ajayi to justify: (a) the fact that he is very expensive whereas Ajayi is cheap; being expensive means less money to expend on another position where we're really hurting; (b) so the question is Ajayi + Kiko + McCoy money on some other good player vs. McCoy alone. Shady's fan club will never understand this. Miami is mediocre. So are the Bills. But they're sitting at about a 45% chance of making the playoffs. We're at 2%. And the key difference: they absolutely destroyed us earlier this year. I haven't always agreed with their personnel decisions, but right now it looks like they're a step or two ahead of Doug and Russ ...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 Some key reasons Miami is ahead of us: 1. Jarvis Landry has outperformed Sammy. Same number of years in the league. Landry has not missed a game. And that's with returning punts too, something we can't risk having Sammy do. Sammy (assuming he plays today) will have missed 11 games. Landry was the 63rd overall pick. Watkins was the 4th. And Watkins cost us a first rounder the following year too. I know Sammy fans will say that when healthy he is the more dominant player. Maybe so. But right now that doesn't matter, does it ... 2. Suh has been up and down in his Miami time (but note that even in a lackluster 2015 he rated as PFF's 6th best interior DL), but for the most part we're seeing a hell of a lot more effort from him than we're seeing from Dareus. How many games has Suh missed since he joined the Dolphins? You guessed it: 0. How many games has Rear Admiral Puffalot missed (again, assuming he plays today)? 9. 3. Tannehill is nothing special. A year ago this time, I probably would have said it's a toss-up between Tanny and Tyrod, slight edge to the latter. Maybe it's the system/coach (Gase knows what he's doing on offense), but whatever the reason, Tanny continued to get better and Tyrod regressed. 4. Which, of course, brings us to coaching. Say what you will about Gase, he was a choice (young/inventive) for the future, not the past. Rex and Rob? That says nostalgia, not creativity. 5. You know how everybody always says RBs are easy to find, so don't spend a high pick or big money on one? LeSean McCoy has been everything the Bills hoped they were getting when they traded Kiko for him. But ... Jay Ajay, 149th overall pick, has over 1,000 yards. McCoy will match him today. McCoy would have to be a whole lot better than Ajayi to justify: (a) the fact that he is very expensive whereas Ajayi is cheap; being expensive means less money to expend on another position where we're really hurting; (b) so the question is Ajayi + Kiko + McCoy money on some other good player vs. McCoy alone. Shady's fan club will never understand this. Miami is mediocre. So are the Bills. But they're sitting at about a 45% chance of making the playoffs. We're at 2%. And the key difference: they absolutely destroyed us earlier this year. I haven't always agreed with their personnel decisions, but right now it looks like they're a step or two ahead of Doug and Russ ... You'll be hearing from my copyright attorney for use of rear admiral puffalot
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 Some key reasons Miami is ahead of us: 1. Jarvis Landry has outperformed Sammy. Same number of years in the league. Landry has not missed a game. And that's with returning punts too, something we can't risk having Sammy do. Sammy (assuming he plays today) will have missed 11 games. Landry was the 63rd overall pick. Watkins was the 4th. And Watkins cost us a first rounder the following year too. I know Sammy fans will say that when healthy he is the more dominant player. Maybe so. But right now that doesn't matter, does it ... 2. Suh has been up and down in his Miami time (but note that even in a lackluster 2015 he rated as PFF's 6th best interior DL), but for the most part we're seeing a hell of a lot more effort from him than we're seeing from Dareus. How many games has Suh missed since he joined the Dolphins? You guessed it: 0. How many games has Rear Admiral Puffalot missed (again, assuming he plays today)? 9. 3. Tannehill is nothing special. A year ago this time, I probably would have said it's a toss-up between Tanny and Tyrod, slight edge to the latter. Maybe it's the system/coach (Gase knows what he's doing on offense), but whatever the reason, Tanny continued to get better and Tyrod regressed. 4. Which, of course, brings us to coaching. Say what you will about Gase, he was a choice (young/inventive) for the future, not the past. Rex and Rob? That says nostalgia, not creativity. 5. You know how everybody always says RBs are easy to find, so don't spend a high pick or big money on one? LeSean McCoy has been everything the Bills hoped they were getting when they traded Kiko for him. But ... Jay Ajay, 149th overall pick, has over 1,000 yards. McCoy will match him today. McCoy would have to be a whole lot better than Ajayi to justify: (a) the fact that he is very expensive whereas Ajayi is cheap; being expensive means less money to expend on another position where we're really hurting; (b) so the question is Ajayi + Kiko + McCoy money on some other good player vs. McCoy alone. Shady's fan club will never understand this. Miami is mediocre. So are the Bills. But they're sitting at about a 45% chance of making the playoffs. We're at 2%. And the key difference: they absolutely destroyed us earlier this year. I haven't always agreed with their personnel decisions, but right now it looks like they're a step or two ahead of Doug and Russ ... Long post to say that they have a much better coach and slightly better qb. Miami is a slightly better version of the Bills.
The Frankish Reich Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 You'll be hearing from my copyright attorney for use of rear admiral puffalot I will gladly pay royalties for the use of that one! Long post to say that they have a much better coach and slightly better qb. Miami is a slightly better version of the Bills. Well, not exactly. The overall focus was that they've drafted better and they've managed their roster better. So I guess you could say "better GM + much better coach + slightly better QB." Which kind of amounts to better players + better coaching ...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 I will gladly pay royalties for the use of that one! Well, not exactly. The overall focus was that they've drafted better and they've managed their roster better. So I guess you could say "better GM + much better coach + slightly better QB." Which kind of amounts to better players + better coaching ... I disagree they have a better roster. We aren't good but they aren't much better. Landry normally catches 5 yards passes and is one of the few receivers who averaged less than 10 ypc last year. Miami is closer to average than they are good. We are slightly below average. You flip qbs and coaches, the records switch.
Nihilarian Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 Tannehill >>> TT Matt Moore >>>TT too! 4 passing TD's against the Jets Miami at 9-5 has Buffalo and NE to play and could end up 10-6 or even 11-5 should the Patriots win home field and rest their players. Adam Gase >>> Rex Ryan
RealityCheck Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 All that matters is winning, regardless of it's complexion. Rex Ryan's focus is on proving himself, more so than winning at ALL costs with the players he has. There is a huge difference in the psychology. Hubris anchors him to a past which isn't coming back. It doesn't mean he is not a great guy to hang out with. He'll be a talking head soon enough.
purple haze Posted December 18, 2016 Posted December 18, 2016 All that matters is winning, regardless of it's complexion. Rex Ryan's focus is on proving himself, more so than winning at ALL costs with the players he has. There is a huge difference in the psychology. Hubris anchors him to a past which isn't coming back. It doesn't mean he is not a great guy to hang out with. He'll be a talking head soon enough. ^^^ (Hand Claps and Finger Snaps) Truth.
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