dave mcbride Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 How deep do you want them to be? They are down to like their 6th S. Bryant was a fine backup but how many teams have good 4 & 5 DTs. You can't stack your rosters in today's NFL. IMO, the Bills have just as much talent as the Pats, just not in the right places. They are a team with very good talent but it become very average when you have a below average qb and coach. I touched on this in the other thread. I do realize that depth is a problem for everyone, but the Bills strike me as worse than other teams. As for the backup safeties, as soon as williams went down the next guy sucked (and the next guy and the next guy). Just look at the past three drafts. Where are the difference makers? There are none this season, although when healthy Sammy obviously is one. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/draft.htm The best this season is Washington, who is a flat out horrible run defender. Glenn, RI,Wood, Woods,clay, Watkins, Hughes, Dareus, Gilmore, Aaron Williams, Peter Griffin, Lawson, etc. They have plenty of talent. To act like they are some awful team in terms of talent is completely foolish. They are on par with any team in the NFL, minus their qb and coach, which trumps everything. The bills front-line talent is decent, not great, overall (qb being the obvious major issue). The rest of the roster is pretty much trash compared to the well-run teams' depth charts. And that's who we should be comparing them too, not, say, the Jags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I think what he's saying is... with the offseason we had, a lot of people expected us to be bad. Watkins isn't hurt, til he's hurt. Shaq isn't hurt, until he's hurt Ik tears his acl Ragland is hurt Marcel to rehab Gilmore contract distraction Tyrod contract Cut manny Lawson So terrified of injuries we barely play in the preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I touched on this in the other thread. I do realize that depth is a problem for everyone, but the Bills strike me as worse than other teams. As for the backup safeties, as soon as williams went down the next guy sucked (and the next guy and the next guy). Just look at the past three drafts. Where are the difference makers? There are none this season, although when healthy Sammy obviously is one. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/draft.htm The best this season is Washington, who is a flat out horrible run defender. The bills front-line talent is decent, not great, overall (qb being the obvious major issue). The rest of the roster is pretty much trash compared to the well-run teams' depth charts. And that's who we should be comparing them too, not, say, the Jags. I think if you compared the Bills roster to the Pats roster, you'd be surprised how close they are. But qb and coach truimphs all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 This is why Whaley Brandon and Rex must ALL go. Systemic failure yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/12/18/nfl-week-15-rex-ryan-job-security-jets-dolphins-tom-brady-mvp This is the BEST assessment so far! Actually, Rex is a saint not to complain about the b.s. roster he's been given. Whatever you think of Tyrod,he's the best QB we've had in years, and REX found him, not Whaley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 This is the BEST assessment so far! Actually, Rex is a saint not to complain about the b.s. roster he's been given. Whatever you think of Tyrod,he's the best QB we've had in years, and REX found him, not Whaley! So Rex should be a coach of the year candidate if the Bills get 8 wins with this crap talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 So Rex should be a coach of the year candidate if the Bills get 8 wins with this crap talent. Some people just can't see the forest for the trees. It's not an either or it's an everything is wrong thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Some people just can't see the forest for the trees. It's not an either or it's an everything is wrong thing Funny because you're the one talking "drain the swamp" as if it's all wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) I think it makes some good points. I see both sides. My fear if they stuck with him is a situation like the Jets had. He went 8-8 with Geno and little talent in 2013, and gave him the benefit of the doubt because he had nothing to work with, then 4-12 2014 and pulled the plug.They waited a year too long. Of course now they are right back where they were after tearing it down. I think this team does have talent, but that he's had some very unfortunate and impactful injuries that I do believe made a huge difference on the season. But I'm just very weary of his defensive scheme and stubbornness around it. Edited December 18, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Funny because you're the one talking "drain the swamp" as if it's all wrong. I'm saying I think it's an everything is wrong thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I'm saying I think it's an everything is wrong thing Really? No one would have guessed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I touched on this in the other thread. I do realize that depth is a problem for everyone, but the Bills strike me as worse than other teams. As for the backup safeties, as soon as williams went down the next guy sucked (and the next guy and the next guy). Just look at the past three drafts. Where are the difference makers? There are none this season, although when healthy Sammy obviously is one. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/draft.htm The best this season is Washington, who is a flat out horrible run defender. The bills front-line talent is decent, not great, overall (qb being the obvious major issue). The rest of the roster is pretty much trash compared to the well-run teams' depth charts. And that's who we should be comparing them too, not, say, the Jags. Yep. No impact players, very poor depth, and a mess at QB are a direct reflection on Doug Whaley's performance. No excuses after 3 drafts and 4 years as GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Really? No one would have guessed that. :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 :lol: :lol: :lol: And yet again the commander of the mediocrity brigade graces us with his deep insight! How ya been buddy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 And Im sure Rex said in the interview youve got to give me at least five years to find a qb and completely overhaul the defense because there are really only one or two guys that fit my defensive scheme. If this article is accurate with respect to the talent level then Rex should have passed on the job. The fact that he didnt realize what he was getting himself into is even more reason to can his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Glenn, RI,Wood, Woods,clay, Watkins, Hughes, Dareus, Gilmore, Aaron Williams, Peter Griffin, Lawson, etc. They have plenty of talent. To act like they are some awful team in terms of talent is completely foolish. They are on par with any team in the NFL, minus their qb and coach, which trumps everything. Peter Griffin has been amazing, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 This is the BEST assessment so far! Actually, Rex is a saint not to complain about the b.s. roster he's been given. Whatever you think of Tyrod,he's the best QB we've had in years, and REX found him, not Whaley! He inherited a top 4 defense and a 9-7 roster!!! With Orton and EJ!!! But there is obviously no talent! Fun fact: Rex Ryan has a worse win % than Wayne Fontes. But Fontes was a great coach. Peter Griffin has been amazing, I agree. That's my nickname for Kyle Williams btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 He inherited a top 4 defense and a 9-7 roster!!! With Orton and EJ!!! But there is obviously no talent! Fun fact: Rex Ryan has a worse win % than Wayne Fontes. But Fontes was a great coach. That's my nickname for Kyle Williams btw. Ah. How would I have known that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Their first-round picks over the last four years—EJ Manuel, Watkins, the pick they traded to get Watkins, and Lawson—have combined to start six games in 2016 is pretty damning. What is not spoken Lawson had an adequate replacement found till he got back. Had Lorax NOT stepped up there would be something there THe Watkins injuries are what hurt......but should someone REALLY be blamed for them? Cant predict injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Ah. How would I have known that? I've been using it for awhile. And he looks exactly like Peter Griffin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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