Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 So answer me this, who should be involved? I guess you're OK with Terry and DW. Who else? While I'll agree that RB doesn't have anywhere near the football knowledge compared to Whaley, he still has more knowledge that Terry or Kim, or almost everyone on this board. Think you'd want more than two people talking to him, in fact if I were Terry, I'd tell DW, once you know who you want to hire, I want to talk with him , but it's 100% your choice on who to hire. So then who else should be involved? Overdolf? I don't want Russ Brandon or Kim Pegula involved at all in the coaching search. Russ heavily suggested Wrecks and even told Wrecks that Terry likes Red wine (to help schmooze Terry over). Russ was the one who proclaimed the Bills were not going to leave any stone unturned in his previous coaching search and stopped at the third guy he interviewed [Marrone]. Before Russ got infatuated with Marrone, he liked Whisenhunt a lot (another loser). Keep that guy away from the interviewing process altogether, otherwise the Bills will choose another terrible coach.
Jeff Wright's Mullet Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Remember when Russ told us the "Brand has been tarnished and its unacceptable" back in 2013. Well I remember and guess what Rusty. The Brand is still tarnished! This guy deserves a One Way Ticket out of town not the title of Managing Partner and President. He knows nothing about building a winning football team and hiring the right people to do so. His track record speaks for itself. Buddy Nix, Doug Whaley, Doug Marrone, Rex Ryan and now he continue to advise the Pegula's about how to direct this franchise and who is qualified to do so. We'll Rusty you are not qualified for this position and I hope you, Doug Whaley and Rex are all gone come January 2nd. However I know this will not be the case because you and Whaley have already started the finger pointing and this year it appears to be the coaches fault. When will you be held accountable? Edited December 13, 2016 by Jeff Wright's Mullet
K-9 Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 What I don't get is the 5-year contract. The initial hire is one thing and although I, like many had some concerns, felt that there was the potential for some good things. Just don't see how he was a "must have" to get that long a deal. Ryan asked for it and got it. That simple. Must have been one helluva bottle of red wine; probably an investment wine.
Dr.Sack Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 What we need is someone who can evaluate the entire operation. Pegula needs to be more hands on like Jerry Jones and Robert Kraft.
Jerry Jabber Posted December 13, 2016 Author Posted December 13, 2016 Remember when Russ told us the "Brand has been tarnished and its unacceptable" back in 2013. Well I remember and guess what Rusty. The Brand is still tarnished! This guy deserves a One Way Ticket out of town not the title of Managing Partner and President. He knows nothing about building a winning football team and hiring the right people to do so. His track record speaks for itself. Buddy Nix, Doug Whaley, Doug Marrone, Rex Ryan and now he continue to advise the Pegula's about how to direct this franchise and who is qualified to do so. We'll Rusty you are not qualified for this position and I hope you, Doug Whaley and Rex are all gone come January 2nd. However I know this will not be the case because you and Whaley have already started the finger pointing and this year it appears to be the coaches fault. When will you be held accountable? You nailed it right on the head
Dazroc Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Just wanted to jump in and say Im in the brandon has to go camp. Agree with the OP. Edited December 13, 2016 by Dazroc
May Day 10 Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Team president should be in on those meetings. The problem is, the most influential people on the call are clueless in winning in the nfl.... and id argue that all the participants are a whack pack of sorts. What i would like is a john elway (pres), maybe acting gm, coach go over game. John Elway reports to the owners. Winners from outside the organization need to be brought in. The program needs to be more cohesive and focused.
Dragonborn10 Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 So answer me this, who should be involved? I guess you're OK with Terry and DW. Who else? While I'll agree that RB doesn't have anywhere near the football knowledge compared to Whaley, he still has more knowledge that Terry or Kim, or almost everyone on this board. Think you'd want more than two people talking to him, in fact if I were Terry, I'd tell DW, once you know who you want to hire, I want to talk with him , but it's 100% your choice on who to hire. So then who else should be involved? Overdolf? Easy answer. The only person that should be involved is the GM. Pegula should have nothing to do with it unless the HC is also the GM.
Santana Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Team president should be in on those meetings. The problem is, the most influential people on the call are clueless in winning in the nfl.... and id argue that all the participants are a whack pack of sorts. What i would like is a john elway (pres), maybe acting gm, coach go over game. John Elway reports to the owners. Winners from outside the organization need to be brought in. The program needs to be more cohesive and focused. Very well put....there's such a lack of football knowledge and a lack of knowledge of what it takes to win in Buffalo. Russ Brandon doesn't need to do anything but sell tickets. He doesn't deserve to have any input on any football personnel at all.
K D Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Keep Russ away from all things sports related. If they want him to run the business side that's another thing
dave mcbride Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Everyone here is forgetting Russ's secret weapon. https://www.winecurmudgeon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/winebottles.jpg Expect him to be involved.
John from Riverside Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 I want to know why he is even IN the interview process That guy should be fetching coffee for the pegulas or something and NEVER have a say in football operations Stick to selling tickets dammit
Fadingpain Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Why not? What was it that PT Barnum said? What minute were you born in? So you're in the Bills marketing department or used to be and you are openly calling out a Bills fan as a sucker in a public forum. Well, that explains a lot.
K-9 Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 So you're in the Bills marketing department or used to be and you are openly calling out a Bills fan as a sucker in a public forum. Well, that explains a lot. Again, nuance escapes you. And no, I was never in the marketing department. I worked in what would be considered today as quality control. And AGAIN, that was long before Russ Brandon arrived on the scene.
MAJBobby Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Not gonna happen. Russ is in Pegulas inner circle. Terry trusts him he will be in the interviews
Santana Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 What we need is someone who can evaluate the entire operation. Pegula needs to be more hands on like Jerry Jones and Robert Kraft. Valid point, maybe not so much like Jerry Jones though....I think that's too much. It could turn out bad like Dan Snyder was with the Redskins back in the day.
Fadingpain Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Again, nuance escapes you. And no, I was never in the marketing department. I worked in what would be considered today as quality control. And AGAIN, that was long before Russ Brandon arrived on the scene. Well at least I got you to comment on your role within the organization and whether or not you were still there. Carry on.
K-9 Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Well at least I got you to comment on your role within the organization and whether or not you were still there. Carry on. I said that yesterday. You should pay closer attention.
Nihilarian Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Good luck with this as Brandon is more of a fixture at OBD than Ralph Wilsons statue. I get the impression from hearing the Pegulas talk about the team that they are still very enamored with Rex Ryan and can't understand why Bills fans don't love him. At this point I kinda doubt any change happens any time soon.
Billznut Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Remember when Russ told us the "Brand has been tarnished and its unacceptable" back in 2013. Well I remember and guess what Rusty. The Brand is still tarnished! This guy deserves a One Way Ticket out of town not the title of Managing Partner and President. He knows nothing about building a winning football team and hiring the right people to do so. His track record speaks for itself. Buddy Nix, Doug Whaley, Doug Marrone, Rex Ryan and now he continue to advise the Pegula's about how to direct this franchise and who is qualified to do so. We'll Rusty you are not qualified for this position and I hope you, Doug Whaley and Rex are all gone come January 2nd. However I know this will not be the case because you and Whaley have already started the finger pointing and this year it appears to be the coaches fault. When will you be held accountable? You couldn't be more right but it's not going to change. We can all hope and wish for it but Russ is as firmly entrenched in his position as anyone can be. As frustrating as this is, sadly it's all wasted energy.
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