eball Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm trying to make sense of the second paragraph here. Any thoughts? Dumb dumb Rodak needed to include Clause F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb62 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 As posted in another post cut him today so he doesn't slip in the shower, talk about an expensive fall, yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 As posted in another post cut him today so he doesn't slip in the shower, talk about an expensive fall, yikes I have to guess that a non-football injury wouldn't trigger the clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I have to guess that a non-football injury wouldn't trigger the clause. Yeah, but what if it's a non football injury that happens while at the Bills' facility!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Yeah, but what if it's a non football injury that happens while at the Bills' facility!? I believe it's still a non-football injury such as when guys get hurt working out vs. actions on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Does it say anything about rubber mats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) But should his contract be fully guaranteed in case of injury? Surely an allocation of the risk and associated costs (including opportunity costs) would be more reasonable, especially when what the player really has is a one year tryout as a precondition to a committment for longer term. Mind you I dont have a problem with it either. The fans and the owners will still be there long after the player's career is over. It's not fully guaranteed. Skurski says in the video that the "option" the Bills have is fully guaranteed. The OP mis-stated that the contract is fully guaranteed. If the Bills exercise the option bonus, that's $15.5 mil next year that is then treated like a signing bonus (guaranteed and paid but prorated for cap purposes over 5 years). Additionally his $12 mil salary for 2017 would also be guaranteed. If they don't pay the option as a bonus but also don't cut him before then either, it becomes a guaranteed $27.5 mil salary for 2017. Either way it's $27.5 mil guaranteed if we don't cut him loose. And, if TT gets injured playing football and is still injured on March 11th (or whatever day it is) 2017, that same $27.5 mil is still guaranteed. That's a lot to risk if you are convinced TT's not the future (too much to risk IMO), but it's nowhere near the same as saying his whole contract is fully guaranteed if he's injured. Edited December 12, 2016 by Tuco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) It's not fully guaranteed. Skurski says in the video that the "option" the Bills have is fully guaranteed. The OP mis-stated that the contract is fully guaranteed. If the Bills exercise the option bonus, that's $15.5 mil next year that is then treated like a signing bonus (guaranteed and paid but prorated for cap purposes over 5 years. Additionally his $12 mil salary for 2017 would also be guaranteed. If they don't pay it as a bonus but don't cut him before then either, it becomes a guaranteed $27.5 mil salary for 2017. Either way it's $27.5 mil guaranteed if we don't cut him loose. And, if TT gets injured playing football and is still injured on March 11th (or whatever day it is) 2017, that same $27.5 mil is still guaranteed. That's a lot to risk if you are convinced TT's not the future (too much to risk IMO), but it's nowhere near the same as saying his whole contract is fully guaranteed if he's injured. Yeah, I misstated -- of course subsequent non-bonus salaried payments post-2017aren't guaranteed. The staggering cap hit will be real, however. The option is such a big number that it's basically all the marbles at present. Edited December 12, 2016 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Yeah, I misstated -- of course subsequent non-bonus salaried payments post-2017aren't guaranteed. The staggering cap hit will be real, however. The option is such a big number that it's basically all the marbles at present. 10-4. Way too much to risk unless someone really thinks the light will come on in the next 3 weeks. But I wouldn't bench him. He's a hard worker, giving us his best. And he gave us an out with his contract that still paid him well for the year. So I'm all for the pulled a hamstring in practice Wednesday morning routine so he's be relegated to 3rd string emergency QB. At which point I would wrap him in bubble wrap, hand him a clipboard, and not let him stand too close to the sidelines. Edited December 12, 2016 by Tuco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Dysfunction Junction on a team that might wind up yr 1 8-8, yr 2 9-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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