PromoTheRobot Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 most of the good players were there when we had the #4 Defense.Zach Brown? Lorax?
jester43 Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Whaley made lots of good moves, especially on D. He gave Rex players. Rex and Rob neutered them. one thing that will never change is that you will always be a freakin shameless shill for management.
4merper4mer Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 On this basis should every team who missed on him sack their personnel people? Everyone except the Patriots. He loves the Patriots.
Dragonborn10 Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 I don't think Whaley chose Marrone or Ryan. How can the GM not pick the HC? Ah well said. Who is the one behind the curtain lobbying for Doug and Rex. It is Russ. He fooled an old man and helped Pegula buy the team. Russ I'm sure thinks he can be the GM.
PromoTheRobot Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) one thing that will never change is that you will always be a freakin shameless shill for management. I understand. We are in full purge mode. All must pay. Edited December 12, 2016 by PromoTheRobot
billieve420 Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 100% agree. I'm not sure Whaley's top HC choice would have been Rex. For that I fault him for his lack of backbone, but only a little. If he supports Rex (who apparently gets to draft players...?), he has to go too. It had been reported that Whaley wanted Hue Jackson as HC. The Pegulas and Russ Brandon were impressed with Rex and made call to go with him.
GunnerBill Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 My understanding is that Hue was Whaley's first choice but it is not accurate to suggest Rex was hired against Whaley's wishes. He must have ranked pretty high on Doug's preference list and he was the #1 choice of ownership.
ALLEN1QB Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Imo Rex puts himself on the same level with the players. Wants to be a buddy not their coach. This team lacks discipline and it has cost them numerous games. We are miles away from being a serious playoff team and will never be with him. He is in way over his head.
BillsVet Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 We haven't really passed on any obvious QB picks. Prescott was rated one QB above Jones last draft. The others are having "so-so" at best seasons. https://walterfootball.com/draft2016QB.php he did have to deal with St. Doug and Rex (I'm awesome but my record stinks) Ryan If Buffalo doesn't trade a 4th round pick to move up for Ragland this year, they have a pick to take Prescott. And they were going to take one this year, so it's very possible that he was their guy. Moreover, why is Buffalo trading 2 4th (the other in 2017) to take an ILB? This is the kind of resource management that hurts the team building process. ILB's not named Kuechly or Wagner aren't worth moving up for. In fact, Whaley acquired Zach Brown who's played fairly well and didn't require losing draft picks for. Watching the Bills in continuous rebuild mode is the result of being loose with resources. Trading high draft picks when they're so far from contending (2014) is a prime example. I hope rather than pick Whaley over Rex or vice-versa, TPegs' begins the clean-out now as opposed to wasting another year. A GM who can't identify and acquire a QB in 4 seasons shouldn't get another chance.
Rico Posted December 12, 2016 Author Posted December 12, 2016 If Buffalo doesn't trade a 4th round pick to move up for Ragland this year, they have a pick to take Prescott. And they were going to take one this year, so it's very possible that he was their guy. Moreover, why is Buffalo trading 2 4th (the other in 2017) to take an ILB? This is the kind of resource management that hurts the team building process. ILB's not named Kuechly or Wagner aren't worth moving up for. In fact, Whaley acquired Zach Brown who's played fairly well and didn't require losing draft picks for. Watching the Bills in continuous rebuild mode is the result of being loose with resources. Trading high draft picks when they're so far from contending (2014) is a prime example. I hope rather than pick Whaley over Rex or vice-versa, TPegs' begins the clean-out now as opposed to wasting another year. A GM who can't identify and acquire a QB in 4 seasons shouldn't get another chance. Absolutely, not another chance. PEGS, DRAIN THE SWAMP!
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 I hope we keep Whaley & fire Rex based on Rex's QB decision alone not to mention all the other reasons.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 I hope we keep Whaley & fire Rex based on Rex's QB decision alone not to mention all the other reasons. This would absolutely be the worst case scenario for this team. You either keep both or fire both.
MDH Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 If Buffalo doesn't trade a 4th round pick to move up for Ragland this year, they have a pick to take Prescott. A GM who can't identify and acquire a QB in 4 seasons shouldn't get another chance. In this alternate time line, if they did land Prescott he'd be running the scout team and not active on Sundays right now. He wouldn't have gotten any play time and you'd still be saying that Whaley hadn't done anything to land a QB. Hell, when he finally got his chance in Buffalo it could have easily gone very differently without the best OL in the league to help him out along with one of the best TE's to ever play the game. Prescott went into the very best situation a rookie could have gone into, the same can't be said if he landed in Buffalo. The situation a player lands in has a lot to do with how he performs.
Buffalo Boy Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 In this alternate time line, if they did land Prescott he'd be running the scout team and not active on Sundays right now. He wouldn't have gotten any play time and you'd still be saying that Whaley hadn't done anything to land a QB. Hell, when he finally got his chance in Buffalo it could have easily gone very differently without the best OL in the league to help him out along with one of the best TE's to ever play the game. Prescott went into the very best situation a rookie could have gone into, the same can't be said if he landed in Buffalo. The situation a player lands in has a lot to do with how he performs.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 http://buffalonews.com/2016/12/11/ryans-seat-white-hot-bad-loss/ Most of the article is obvious, but this part is dead on: "I also suspect that Doug Whaley and his personnel people are engaging in a power play against Ryan. One of the national reports on Sunday had an unnamed Bills source saying that Ryan had been given "superior personnel" and not done enough with it. That sounds like a transparent attempt by the football department to point the finger of blame at Ryan in a crisis. It's true that Ryan hasn't gotten enough out of his team, but Whaley is also culpable for some of his dubious moves as GM -- notably, trading up for Sammy Watkins to support EJ Manuel and whiffing on key draft picks." BLOW IT UP PEGS! As Mick Jagger once said, everybody's gotta go. agree with all of that. Russ can stay in business side ONLY.
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