MDH Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 Provide some context as to why you believe otherwise. He was shutdown-caliber against Brown today. He's played very well in spite of the ridiculous lack of pressure by the front 7. QBs sit back there all day and he's still played very well.
Bad Things Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Sorry... he may have played well the last few weeks, but I still believe he's over-rated, and he's quit on plays. Should we get rid of him? Probably not.
dayman Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 I wouldn't break bank to keep him. Keep him if we can, he's a good player and I've always said that...but lets not forget. Never forget.
CommonCents Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Hmm probably not a good day to be trolling anyone. You caught the ball, yay. I could not disagree more with the folks who consider him an excellent player. Good riddance to another Bill who doesn't get it.
NoSaint Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 My my, how the tables turn. He wanted AB, Rex let him have at it. Besides that one catch, did he let Brown have anything? They never had to test him with bell churning out yards at will It was a good game for him though
davspo Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Good player- I could see hm as the kind of,guy who takes the foot off the gas once he gets paid - franchise and trade is an option
Franchiseneedsme Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Pick up E Berry or another real Saftey, and see how Gilmore and Darby look.
dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2016 Author Posted December 12, 2016 Gilmore has earned the rep to avoid obvious PI calls. That's the kind of CB you keep.*Exactly.* Excellent post.
boyst Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Per sources close with him its expected Carolina gets him. Buffalo is still an option and he is not against it. He is not a fan of Rex. He misses Dennis Thurman.
dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2016 Author Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Sorry... he may have played well the last few weeks, but I still believe he's over-rated, and he's quit on plays. Should we get rid of him? Probably not. Watch other teams and other non-Bills cbs, knowing that the league tries to make cbs fail. Then reconsider.Per sources close with him its expected Carolina gets him. Buffalo is still an option and he is not against it. He is not a fan of Rex. He misses Dennis Thurman. Nopt surprsing. They've paid the price for letting Norman go, and Gilmore is flat out better than Norman. Edited December 12, 2016 by dave mcbride
NoSaint Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Watch other teams and other non-Bills cbs, knowing that the league tries to make cbs fail. Then reconsider. Nopt surprsing. They've paid the price for letting Norman go, and Gilmore is flat out better than Norman. I'll say one thing about this board- we've been incredibly spoiled with good corner play the last decade or so... I think there are many here that don't realize what it's like to watch a team with average to poor corners
dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2016 Author Posted December 12, 2016 I'll say one thing about this board- we've been incredibly spoiled with good corner play the last decade or so... I think there are many here that don't realize what it's like to watch a team with average to poor corners Great post, NS. So true.
Deranged Rhino Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 I'll say one thing about this board- we've been incredibly spoiled with good corner play the last decade or so... I think there are many here that don't realize what it's like to watch a team with average to poor corners
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) I'll say one thing about this board- we've been incredibly spoiled with good corner play the last decade or so... I think there are many here that don't realize what it's like to watch a team with average to poor corners We were spoiled with INDIVIDUAL PLAY over the years (Clements, Winfield, Darby (last year) etc) but NOT the actual CB/secondary as a team/unit over the last decade or so of complete failure. Edited December 12, 2016 by BuffaloBillsForever
3rdand12 Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 They might keep him since they will be letting TT go and have the room, but it is up to Gilmore who I think won't settle for anything less than top money to stay in Buffalo. I don't care either way. maybe its my attitude after today, but i don't care either way. next He is good, but 14-15+? At that pay scale he needs to be Deion Sanders level, shutting down half the field, and he is not that. not hardly My my, how the tables turn. He wanted AB, Rex let him have at it. Besides that one catch, did he let Brown have anything? Nope. but he will be called for all the hand work next game. he has been called for it before. quite a bit actually Darby had great coverage and just missed the breakup. Because Brown is amazing. Gilmore has been playing eggcellent lately. But its contract time
NoSaint Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 We were spoiled with INDIVIDUAL PLAY over the years (Clements, Winfield, Darby (last year) etc) but NOT the actual CB/secondary as a team/unit. Even as a unit they've rarely been poor. Add in McGee, Greer, and of course Gilmore to your list. When mckelvin is generally a low water mark for expected starting cbs across 15 years... you've been spoiled. I guess we had that year with Florence, Leo and Aaron Williams (and Justin rogers) at cb... this place hated that. Think of that year when trashing Gilmore and saying we wouldn't lose a step with a cheap vet, Darby, Robey and Seymour. maybe its my attitude after today, but i don't care either way. next not hardly Nope. but he will be called for all the hand work next game. he has been called for it before. quite a bit actually Darby had great coverage and just missed the breakup. Because Brown is amazing. Gilmore has been playing eggcellent lately. But its contract time If you tag him it's contract time again
3rdand12 Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Pick up E Berry or another real Saftey, and see how Gilmore and Darby look. Or how Seymour might look eh ? *Exactly.* Excellent post. I was considering this point by GG too Even as a unit they've rarely been poor. Add in McGee, Greer, and of course Gilmore to your list. When mckelvin is generally a low water mark for expected starting cbs across 15 years... you've been spoiled. I guess we had that year with Florence, Leo and Aaron Williams (and Justin rogers) at cb... this place hated that. Think of that year when trashing Gilmore and saying we wouldn't lose a step with a cheap vet, Darby, Robey and Seymour. If you tag him it's contract time again Lotso money and maybe an unhappy Gilmore ?
stony Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 I'll say one thing about this board- we've been incredibly spoiled with good corner play the last decade or so... I think there are many here that don't realize what it's like to watch a team with average to poor corners Yup. CB across NFL is generally pretty damn poor. You could add RB to that conversation, too.
bigK14094 Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 He has been very good for years Fact Ahhh, not so fast. He was an underachieving first round pick for the first three years here. He has done well sometimes the last two years, but is still afraid to hit....might cost him big money....I understand. He is sort of like Dion Sanders in that regard, without the interceptions. Now, he has 5 this year......and counting...but, I don't think he had 5 his first 4 years. His body of work, then, is good recently, and was very average the first three years here. I would say he will get paid big....but, I would rather keep two or three other A players around and not spend the big bucks on one position. (Z Brown, for example...on a 1 year contract) The Bills have the most free agents in the league...and some will leave just because they don't want to be part of the fiasco that is the Buffalo Bills. the Bills are serving as the minor leagues for the rest of the NFL. (btw, McKelvin returns an int for a TD today....I can't recall Gilmore ever doing that in his 5 years here)
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